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MagicDave
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Grey Oyster Cultivation - First Attempt
#22134712 - 08/24/15 09:43 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Just wanted to share my excitement about my first attempt with cultivating mushrooms. Since this is my first attempt, I am going with a low tech solution. I am colonizing jars, 4 with BRF/verm, and 3 with organic rye berries/verm. I am at the point where I am waiting for colonization, they have only been sitting for a day now. Any tips?
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Re: Grey Oyster Cultivation - First Attempt [Re: MagicDave]
#22134726 - 08/24/15 09:47 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Nice shorts!
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Re: Grey Oyster Cultivation - First Attempt [Re: mcchieftan]
#22135123 - 08/24/15 11:40 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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mcchieftan said: Nice shorts!
Lol. Did this late at night, they are my sleepy time shorts.
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Re: Grey Oyster Cultivation - First Attempt [Re: MagicDave]
#22143003 - 08/25/15 08:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have a question, about bags that I see everyone growing mushrooms in.
What kind of bags to people use? Do you just put your substrate in it, put some spawn in it, and cut holes in the bag so that the mushrooms can pin out?
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Re: Grey Oyster Cultivation - First Attempt [Re: MagicDave]
#22143267 - 08/25/15 09:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Typically we grow oysters on some sort of wood based substrate. Get some hardwood mulch/chips, wood pellets, cardboard, or sawdust and pasteurize the substrate then mix with your spawn and fill the bags. Typically WBS, milo, wheat, or rye is used for spawn since it breaks up easier into even sized balls for inoculation points of you bulk substrate. Also you can do GTG and continue your culture easier with grain spawn. You can use anything including 20lb ice bags, gallon ziplocks, bread loaf bag, shopping bags, purpose built XL mushroom grow bags or poly tube with the ends tied or impulse sealed. I use grow bags and 5 gal pails currently and im using WBS or milo spawn made in quart jars and bulk pasteurized mixed mulch using the hot water bath method.
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Re: Grey Oyster Cultivation - First Attempt [Re: Gr0wer]
#22143369 - 08/25/15 09:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Do you cut holes in the bags for the mushrooms to fruit out of? How big of holes would you recommend, for an ice bag for instance, and how many?
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Re: Grey Oyster Cultivation - First Attempt [Re: MagicDave]
#22143764 - 08/25/15 11:10 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I cut my holes every 4-6" and make 1" X's, straight slices or 1/2" triangle cutouts. It depends on what mood im in, they all work just as well. Cut em once there stuffed with a razor or scalpel, some use 4 blade hunting arrows to make quick X's. In my pails i do 1/4-1/2" holes every 5". The holes should be on the sides, any pins on the top typically abort when there are side fruits.
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Re: Grey Oyster Cultivation - First Attempt [Re: Gr0wer]
#22144695 - 08/26/15 07:17 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks, very helpful. How much spawn do you typically use? Is there a ratio or formula of spawn to substrate weight?
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Re: Grey Oyster Cultivation - First Attempt [Re: MagicDave]
#22144915 - 08/26/15 08:16 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Very organized! funny to someone cultivate them though because they have been growing like crazy in the wild where I live. too bad i dont really care for them :p
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Re: Grey Oyster Cultivation - First Attempt [Re: Helvella]
#22148866 - 08/26/15 08:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Three days in and I already have visible mycelium in my jars. that has to be a good sign right?!
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Re: Grey Oyster Cultivation - First Attempt [Re: MagicDave]
#22148933 - 08/26/15 08:57 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sounds good! oysters typically are wispy and thin then will turn solid white a few days later. So dont be alarmed when it almost looks like cobweb.
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Re: Grey Oyster Cultivation - First Attempt [Re: Gr0wer]
#22148972 - 08/26/15 09:03 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Do you have spare culture? If not definitely plan on transferring some of the growth to a few jars of grain spawn to continue the culture. I just saw now you made jars of rye/verm, that would be best to use for GTG and ditch the verm to use it as spawn for bulk sub.
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Re: Grey Oyster Cultivation - First Attempt [Re: Gr0wer]
#22149067 - 08/26/15 09:20 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Grey Oyster Cultivation - First Attempt [Re: MagicDave]
#22151231 - 08/27/15 12:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Will the rye berries not contam? He's using a pot on the stove with a lid. Not a pc
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I steam sterilize my grains for 4 hours and still not one to contaminate
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Re: Grey Oyster Cultivation - First Attempt [Re: nooberst]
#22151722 - 08/27/15 02:23 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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That would be a bummer, but if it happens it happens I guess. Will the BRF cakes be okay? I read several things that said a pressure cooker wasn't necessary as long as you give them enough time in a pot.
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Re: Grey Oyster Cultivation - First Attempt [Re: MagicDave]
#22154131 - 08/27/15 10:14 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Here is 5 days after noc'ing them. The right 4 are my Rye spawn, the left 3 are BRF cakes. As you can see, there is barely any mycelium on the BRF, but the rye is covered in mycelium. Is this normal?
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Re: Grey Oyster Cultivation - First Attempt [Re: MagicDave]
#22155407 - 08/28/15 08:51 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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How long did you steam em for? I think the brf will be fine by steaming but the rye I dunno man. people PC the rye at 15psi for atleast an hour that's 250 degrees(I just ordered parts so I can modify my PC into a sterilizer and do about 20psi for an hour)...... some people longer.
When I started (and trust me I'm still a newbie learning) I had a small electric pc I used. I think I could fit 6 pints in there. Wasn't long before I found an $80 all American 915 on ebay and shit is still too small for me I think but it's an improvement.
Edited by midnightmaraude (08/28/15 08:53 AM)
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Also, it doesn't look like you have any micropore tape over your holes. Not super important because of the verm layer on top but I don't like to take chances.
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midnightmaraude said: Also, it doesn't look like you have any micropore tape over your holes. Not super important because of the verm layer on top but I don't like to take chances.
I read enough articles that convinced me that the vermiculite was enough and decided to leave them that way.
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