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GoblinKing
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Re: My 1:4 spawn ratio and cased vs uncased experiment! [Re: uninc4life2010]
#22271818 - 09/21/15 10:01 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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So the Data says no?

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uninc4life2010
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Re: My 1:4 spawn ratio and cased vs uncased experiment! [Re: GoblinKing]
#22272193 - 09/21/15 11:47 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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To be fair, it would be nice to have a larger sample size than four. Keep in mind that this is a MS grow, so results are going to be inconsistent. That being said, 2 out of four 1:4 mono's getting contaminated before the first flush isn't a good thing. In addition, it made me not want to attempt any second flushes out of fear that further contamination could threaten my grow. Mono #3, the last 1:4 mono was harvested and is currently drying. I'll post an update tomorrow morning with the final dry weight. I do have to say that #3 performed great. No monsters, but lots of very healthy looking shrooms. But, the best is yet to come! My six 1:2 cased and uncased mono's are sitting just waiting to blow up. Below is mono #3 that was just harvested. I'm hoping for a yield around 4 ounces dry from these little guys!
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Re: My 1:4 spawn ratio and cased vs uncased experiment! [Re: uninc4life2010]
#22272855 - 09/22/15 07:11 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: My 1:4 spawn ratio and cased vs uncased experiment! [Re: uninc4life2010]
#22273316 - 09/22/15 10:03 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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uninc4life2010 said: That being said, 2 out of four 1:4 mono's getting contaminated before the first flush isn't a good thing.
I tried to tell you to toss that first tub, I had a feeling things would spread with how much you got going on there.
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uninc4life2010
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Re: My 1:4 spawn ratio and cased vs uncased experiment! [Re: Bugler Boy]
#22273667 - 09/22/15 11:53 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bugler Boy said:
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uninc4life2010 said: That being said, 2 out of four 1:4 mono's getting contaminated before the first flush isn't a good thing.
I tried to tell you to toss that first tub, I had a feeling things would spread with how much you got going on there.
You sure did! TBH, there's no way to know if the contamination originated from that first mono, or if it would have gotten contaminated to begin with. It's possible that the contamination spread from one mono to the other, but I'm inclined to suspect that the lower spawn ratio could have contributed to it as well. Who knows
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Re: My 1:4 spawn ratio and cased vs uncased experiment! [Re: uninc4life2010]
#22274631 - 09/22/15 03:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Mono #3 is finished! Final dry weight was 112.4 grams. Not too bad, and that is just a hair better than mono #1's 111.2 grams. In that respect, the cased and uncased mono's that didn't contaminate each produced about 1.3 dry ounces per quart of spawn used.
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Re: My 1:4 spawn ratio and cased vs uncased experiment! [Re: uninc4life2010]
#22274649 - 09/22/15 03:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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uninc4life2010
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Re: My 1:4 spawn ratio and cased vs uncased experiment! [Re: Psilosoulful]
#22326213 - 10/02/15 10:29 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mono #7 of 10 was harvested with a dry yield of 180.0 grams. That's a little over one dry ounce per quart of spawn, so all good here. I picked the healthiest looking specimen and put a couple samples on agar for future cloning.

Mono #5 yielded 157.4 dry grams, so just under one dry ounce per quart of spawn. I noticed that there were a lot of underdeveloped shrooms towards the back of the tub which could have been given more time to mature. Regardless, I harvested everything at the same time.
Both of these tubs were heavily misted and put back into fruiting for a second flush. Mono #8 (not pictured) developed trich and had to be tossed. Quite a shame considering it was only about 3 days from harvest. I picked what was there, but it was only about 228 grams wet before it went into the dehydrator.
I'm pretty happy with how these two mono's performed, but I can't understand how some growers like Frank are getting 300+ grams dry off of a single tub. How? That is over 10 ounces for a first flush! Mono #7 filled my entire dehydrator up. Are they adding more bulk and more quarts of spawn than I am? I'm added 6 quarts to my monos and about 10-12 quarts of hydrated CVG. The only thing I can think of is that the clones/isolate they are using are genetically better performers. After all, I am using MS here.
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Re: My 1:4 spawn ratio and cased vs uncased experiment! [Re: uninc4life2010]
#22326229 - 10/02/15 10:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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great flushes man.
what size are the holes in tub #7?
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Re: My 1:4 spawn ratio and cased vs uncased experiment! [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
#22326261 - 10/02/15 10:45 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mr.PhilCybin said:
great flushes man.
what size are the holes in tub #7?
The holes are 1" in size. If you look through this thread, you will see several people criticizing that hole configuration. What now, haters? Look who's laughing, bitches! But seriously, that hole configuration doesn't impede the tub's performance. I wouldn't recommend it, and I'm not claiming it is superior, but it certainly works just as well as as a normal 2" hole setup.
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Re: My 1:4 spawn ratio and cased vs uncased experiment! [Re: uninc4life2010]
#22326271 - 10/02/15 10:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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yeah I had a feeling you probably caught flack for that, but dry weight talks 
btw - what are the stats on those two tubs.
maybe I missed it, but I couldn't figure out what spawn ratio they were or whether they had a casing or not
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Re: My 1:4 spawn ratio and cased vs uncased experiment! [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
#22326279 - 10/02/15 10:53 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah, there are a lot of people on here that think they have a PhD in Mycology just because they got the PF Tek right once and read a few mono tub how to's.
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Re: My 1:4 spawn ratio and cased vs uncased experiment! [Re: uninc4life2010]
#22326313 - 10/02/15 11:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: My 1:4 spawn ratio and cased vs uncased experiment! [Re: cronicr]
#22331206 - 10/04/15 02:17 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mono #6 yielded 151.8 grams dry. It was packed pretty full, but most of the shrooms were fairly small.
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uninc4life2010
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Re: My 1:4 spawn ratio and cased vs uncased experiment! [Re: uninc4life2010]
#22343183 - 10/06/15 10:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mono #9 yielded 168.5 grams dry, which is just a hair under 6 o's. Pretty good if you ask me. At this point, only mono #10, the uncased mono has yet to finish. I'm intrigued to find out how the upcoming second flushes fair.
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Re: My 1:4 spawn ratio and cased vs uncased experiment! [Re: uninc4life2010]
#22343223 - 10/06/15 10:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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So you just "mist heavily" to rehydrate for second flush? I've seen a few people who do a full dunk and soak the sucker, any thoughts on that?
Going to be hopefully starting up my first attempt at a mono soon, so I'm curious.
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Re: My 1:4 spawn ratio and cased vs uncased experiment! [Re: Sivarted]
#22343235 - 10/06/15 10:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've always dunked in the past, but I'm misting because I find it less of a PITA. We'll see how it works out. According to some TC's here, they mist heavily and it works okay for them.
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Re: My 1:4 spawn ratio and cased vs uncased experiment! [Re: uninc4life2010]
#22343245 - 10/06/15 10:24 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Misting works fine yeah....but I just pull the liner back and pour 2qt or water over the sub, wait for 1-2 hours then dump it. If you don't feel like taking your shroomtub to the bathtub then just mist lol.
Which hole config gave you the best results?
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Believe it or not, mono #7 with the many 1" holes performed the best at 180.0 grams dry. I however, am inclined to believe that hole configuration has little to do with the performance. As long as proper FAE is achieved, they should produce just fine. The next best producer was mono #9, which came in at 168.5 grams, and it had a standard hole setup.
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Re: My 1:4 spawn ratio and cased vs uncased experiment! [Re: uninc4life2010]
#22344019 - 10/07/15 04:35 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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