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I have bought the Midwest grow kit monster ecosphere. tips anyone?
    #22133462 - 08/24/15 12:07 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

So I bought the 495 dollar midwest grow kit monster ecosphere spawn bags and casing mix kit. It's the biggest possible kit I could find. I've had experience with pf tek jars but every time I purchased a spawn bag it seems they dry up quickly? The colonization in the 5 grain spawn bags just stop... sucks. I'm new here so I figure someone can elaborate with me. But as far as the kit goes I'd just like to gain any knowledge possible.


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Re: I have bought the Midwest grow kit monster ecosphere. tips anyone? [Re: Tyjyishi14] * 1
    #22133469 - 08/24/15 12:09 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Are you fucking kidding me? You could have bought a brand new PC, all your supplies, and still made out with cash for a bag of weed or some shit. So much fail dude.


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Re: I have bought the Midwest grow kit monster ecosphere. tips anyone? [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #22133478 - 08/24/15 12:14 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Not at all. I technically didn't pay a dime. A buddy wants to go in on it but has no knowledge of any living organism. He offered to buy, I offered to grow. Win win. Now then, share some knowledge...


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Re: I have bought the Midwest grow kit monster ecosphere. tips anyone? [Re: Tyjyishi14]
    #22133486 - 08/24/15 12:17 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

So you convinced your friend that you know what you are doing so he would shell out half a grand expecting you be able to do something with it, all so you can get some free drugs. You're a dick. Get your own knowledge.


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Re: I have bought the Midwest grow kit monster ecosphere. tips anyone? [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #22133571 - 08/24/15 12:44 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Okay, no nthats not how it went at all.. and your calling me the dick. I've been growing for numerous years. I didn't convict anyone of anything. He came by my house, tried some of my pink buffalos, wanted to get something together, asked for a link to my supplier, I gave him it and he sent me a snapchat of the reciept. I'm simply excited. Don't be a dick. I didn't ask for a shit ty attitude, just simply a comment or two to help me out a little bit. That's what thsee forums are for.


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Re: I have bought the Midwest grow kit monster ecosphere. tips anyone? [Re: Tyjyishi14]
    #22133577 - 08/24/15 12:47 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

So you've been growing for years. Now that either makes you a dick for not helping your friend save some money, or because you're lying about having experience. I don't really care which way it is.


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Re: I have bought the Midwest grow kit monster ecosphere. tips anyone? [Re: Tyjyishi14]
    #22133579 - 08/24/15 12:47 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Damn your friend couldve spend like 75 buck and gotten everything he needed. But it looks like you guys probably got the works, so I'd imagine it will have very detailed instructions with it.


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Re: I have bought the Midwest grow kit monster ecosphere. tips anyone? [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #22133585 - 08/24/15 12:49 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I think you do care. Or why even waste your breath.. look guy, thanks for the help.:wink:


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Re: I have bought the Midwest grow kit monster ecosphere. tips anyone? [Re: Tyjyishi14]
    #22133590 - 08/24/15 12:50 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Okay, no nthats not how it went at all.. and your calling me the dick. I've been growing for numerous years. I didn't convict anyone of anything. He came by my house, tried some of my pink buffalos, wanted to get something together, asked for a link to my supplier, I gave him it and he sent me a snapchat of the reciept. I'm simply excited. Don't be a dick. I didn't ask for a shit ty attitude, just simply a comment or two to help me out a little bit. That's what thsee forums are for.



If you have been "growing for years" then YOU SIR are the dick.
You could have saved your friend hundreds of dollars and also taught him a valuable/fun hobby. This is the wrong forum for this anyway. D- needs improvement.

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Post the results of this grow in Mush Cult. I dare you.
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Re: I have bought the Midwest grow kit monster ecosphere. tips anyone? [Re: Tyjyishi14]
    #22133595 - 08/24/15 12:51 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Trust me I told him I can get him started for 50$ simple tuppaware and a 12 pack of pf tek jars. But he insisted. He wants quantity. And I love growing.


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Re: I have bought the Midwest grow kit monster ecosphere. tips anyone? [Re: Tyjyishi14]
    #22133597 - 08/24/15 12:52 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Your reponse is lacking finesse of intelligence.

Tell me, if you've been growing for years why not let him use your PC?
Or is it because you supposedly use Midwest as a supplier, like you said? Last I checked they have kits, bags, and jars. Which means you've been growing for years using the same methods but need help to do it for your friend.

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Re: I have bought the Midwest grow kit monster ecosphere. tips anyone? [Re: impatientguy]
    #22133602 - 08/24/15 12:54 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

http://www.midwestgrowkits.com/Monster-Mushroom-Growing-Incubator-Ecosystem%20.html

It's a pretty big kit. And it was only $329
So it's not that bad I guess. As long as you guys do it right you should get a fuck load of shrooms.

I know I could cultivate pounds(dry) from a that kit, if I had time to use all of the suplies.

Really tho with that price you should be getting a damn pressure cooker with the deal. Then it would maybe be worth it IMO.


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Re: I have bought the Midwest grow kit monster ecosphere. tips anyone? [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #22133612 - 08/24/15 01:01 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

You guys are confusing the helL out of me.. look, midwest is my substrate supplier spores 101 is my spore supplier. Can we all not be such pissy people? Sorry this is the wrong forum, truely. Like I said I'm new to this. I'm not going to take what you people say offensivly, I'm sure your just trying to help or something. But either way I am not a dick for him buying this, he's a pretty wealthy guy and the things he does out of random really suprises me all the time. I've been a loyal trustworthy friend of his for many many years and I'm sure he''s going to be more then happy with the out come. Now can we please all be civil here?


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Re: I have bought the Midwest grow kit monster ecosphere. tips anyone? [Re: Tyjyishi14]
    #22133616 - 08/24/15 01:03 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Post your grow in Mush Cult. Lets see what you do with this monstrosity of a purchase.


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Re: I have bought the Midwest grow kit monster ecosphere. tips anyone? [Re: Tyjyishi14]
    #22133617 - 08/24/15 01:03 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

No that's not the one my man.. same list but the one we got is at the bottom. I know I can get massive weight from that. That's the GP


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Re: I have bought the Midwest grow kit monster ecosphere. tips anyone? [Re: Tyjyishi14]
    #22133624 - 08/24/15 01:04 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I will Mr Rogers. Unfortunately he just ordered today. So I'll get back to ya on that in a month or so.


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Re: I have bought the Midwest grow kit monster ecosphere. tips anyone? [Re: Tyjyishi14]
    #22133626 - 08/24/15 01:05 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

It's a date. See ya there


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Re: I have bought the Midwest grow kit monster ecosphere. tips anyone? [Re: SteveRogers]
    #22133640 - 08/24/15 01:10 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Will do


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Re: I have bought the Midwest grow kit monster ecosphere. tips anyone? [Re: Tyjyishi14]
    #22133641 - 08/24/15 01:11 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

If it weren't for the fact that so many willingly get ripped off on these kits, I'd say this 100% troll.
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Trust me I told him I can get him started for 50$ simple tuppaware and a 12 pack of pf tek jars. But he insisted. He wants quantity. And I love growing.



What does wanting quantity have to do with anything? Kits are always outrageously over priced, it doesn't matter what method you plan to use.

If you literally just bought it, then cancel the order, now. Do some reading, and spend half as much.

Every time I see someone come in here proud of themselves for having bought a kit I face palm so fucking hard. Not even because you let yourself get ripped off. It proves unequivocally that you have done absolutely no research at all. So you're going to most likely have very sub par results but more likely just a lot of contamination. Then guess what? All that over priced shit you got in the kit is worthless and now you need a new one.

If you don't like what I have to say, then don't ask for tips. Because canceling the order and reading about what it is you're going to be doing is the only tip I can give.
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impatientguy said:
http://www.midwestgrowkits.com/Monster-Mushroom-Growing-Incubator-Ecosystem%20.html

It's a pretty big kit. And it was only $329
So it's not that bad I guess. As long as you guys do it right you should get a fuck load of shrooms.

I know I could cultivate pounds(dry) from a that kit, if I had time to use all of the suplies.

Really tho with that price you should be getting a damn pressure cooker with the deal. Then it would maybe be worth it IMO.



Pretty sure that is not the one he ordered. I think it's the one at the bottom of the page here: http://www.midwestgrowkits.com/The-Mushroom-Ecosphere.html
I really don't feel like going through and pricing all that, but I can almost guarantee all that would be less than 200. That's even factoring in the giant bags of vermiculite and shit (nor just a few gallons worth).


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Re: I have bought the Midwest grow kit monster ecosphere. tips anyone? [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22133656 - 08/24/15 01:17 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Look I understand completely where your coming from. But if it's what he wanted and I told him otherwise and HD went ahead and did it anyway, I have no obligation to feel remorse for hid decision. yes kits become easily contaminated. Or you can just leave them be while colonizing and hope for the best.


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Re: I have bought the Midwest grow kit monster ecosphere. tips anyone? [Re: Tyjyishi14] * 2
    #22133683 - 08/24/15 01:33 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

That's ridiculous though. "hope for the best". That's what I did when I realized I had fucked up somewhere while doing the teks on this site. The difference is I spent less than half of what an equal kit would've cost me, and if it did fuck up, I had at least a dozen more tries just on the materials from that first purchase, over what the kits offer. Which amounts to "fuck it up and spend a another few hundred dollars". Kit you have one chance to get it right. Do your research, pay less and you have plenty of chances.

You can keep acting like you're an expert on this stuff, but I don't buy it. Anyone who really knew what they were doing would of already known all of this, and no one is really going to just throw away hundreds of dollars they don't have to. Kit posts show up here often and 100% of the time, it's by someone who was never a member here before purchasing it. It's a bunch of people who never bothered to do any research and figure out just how hard you're getting fucked over it. A good 75% of those kit posts are "Help I think I have contamination, what do I do?". I'm not even sure I believe that this friend is involved. Seems more likely you're just trying to save face.

I get it, I do. We've all been ripped off from time to time because we didn't bother to do even 1 minute of research on something before buying it. It sucks having to admit to everyone and yourself you got hosed. Your pride is going to keep trying to find a way to defend it.

Seriously, just cancel it and do even just a couple hours of reading on the bulk or pf teks on this site. They ALL will give you a shopping list, it may not be in list form, but every single thing you need will be listed throughout the post. You don't even have 20 posts yet. You can just cancel it, read, order the shit yourself and make a new account and no one will be the wiser. I highly suggest doing just that.


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I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


You can't wake up, this is not a dream. You're part of a machine, you are not a human being
With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline


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Re: I have bought the Midwest grow kit monster ecosphere. tips anyone? [Re: Tyjyishi14]
    #22133684 - 08/24/15 01:33 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

it would be 10x easier to buy some spawn bags and set up like 5 trays,case them, go to lowes, get the shit for a small greenhouse and youre saving youself a lot of extra steps. hes saying itll get contaminated because you don't know what youre doing(you wouldn't let your friend buy this if you had enough info on the topics) I would personally say to do monotubs instead(much easier than a greenhouse) and for the size of that one its not even worth the money


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Re: I have bought the Midwest grow kit monster ecosphere. tips anyone? [Re: zack]
    #22133700 - 08/24/15 01:42 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

ive only been on this forum for 3 months but I think ive read years worth of stuff on here, i read shit on here hours every day. and im constantly running into stuff I don't know. I started with BRF jars made 2 monotubs, now im working with agar, LC's and grain and have another 4 monos running on top of the first two. I was going to start with a kit too but started doing my research and its pretty cheap to grow lots of shrooms. just gotta get the right info


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Re: I have bought the Midwest grow kit monster ecosphere. tips anyone? [Re: zack]
    #22133712 - 08/24/15 01:52 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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hes saying itll get contaminated because you don't know what youre doing(you wouldn't let your friend buy this if you had enough info on the topics)



This is almost definitely what is going to happen. I'm not gonna keep carrying on with this shit all night. I'm trying to help and if doesn't want to take it, I can't make him. If he's okay with screwing himself and his friend over, then so be it. When his friends 500 dollars amounts to nothing, it's not going to be fun.

Last thing I will say about it. When your stuff isn't colonizing right (or at all) is producing low yields or is contaminated, don't come asking for help on how to fix it. Because no one can. Grow with a kit and without knowing what you're doing and you're guaranteed to get at least 1 of them. Literally every single person is going to tell you to follow the teks on the site. No one has any idea what is in those kits. Without knowing for sure you're getting the right mix of stuff, there's really no other diagnostic work to be done.


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With my face against the floor I can’t see who knocked me out of the way.
I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


You can't wake up, this is not a dream. You're part of a machine, you are not a human being
With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline


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Re: I have bought the Midwest grow kit monster ecosphere. tips anyone? [Re: Tyjyishi14] * 1
    #22133742 - 08/24/15 02:25 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Tyjyishi14 said:I've been growing for numerous years.




Quote:

Tyjyishi14 said:Like I said I'm new to this.




Which is it?


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Re: I have bought the Midwest grow kit monster ecosphere. tips anyone? [Re: abltsandwich]
    #22133938 - 08/24/15 04:56 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: I have bought the Midwest grow kit monster ecosphere. tips anyone? [Re: Tyjyishi14]
    #22133948 - 08/24/15 05:03 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

That's the problem with starting with bags.  They dry up super fast if improperly prepared.  If your bag is stalled, I'm not sure if it can be saved.  Now...if you had a jar, your problem might be that you just need to flip the cake over.  Some people say you shouldn't flip the cake, but I have without problems.

The other posters are right.  You'd have been better off spending $50 at the store for some jars, verm, brown rice to grind into flour, a clear plastic tub, and a brick of coir.

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