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Invisibletahoe
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Is this enough Spawn? spawn: coir ratio
    #22133346 - 08/23/15 11:20 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I was looking through my colonized bags and realized I had to much of One. Not enough room in the fridge so I figured I would make one super tub. I usually use 1/2 this much per tub.



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Re: Is this enough Spawn? spawn: coir ratio [Re: tahoe]
    #22133397 - 08/23/15 11:40 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Lookin good, I'd say that's about a 3:1 ratio, it should colonize fine. :thumbup:


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Re: Is this enough Spawn? spawn: coir ratio [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #22133406 - 08/23/15 11:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Is this enough Spawn? spawn: coir ratio [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #22133436 - 08/23/15 11:53 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Dam tub must weigh 40 pounds. It's a solid 6 inches of substrate.

Been meaning to axe you guys. Do you prefer to pack down the substrate after mixing or leaving
It loose. I usually pack but left one loose the other day. It's almost completely colonized. It colonized faster if it did anything differently at all.


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Re: Is this enough Spawn? spawn: coir ratio [Re: tahoe]
    #22133456 - 08/24/15 12:03 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Dam tub must weigh 40 pounds. It's a solid 6 inches of substrate.

Been meaning to axe you guys. Do you prefer to pack down the substrate after mixing or leaving
It loose. I usually pack but left one loose the other day. It's almost completely colonized. It colonized faster if it did anything differently at all.


I never pack it down, I try to keep it fluffy.

Never tried packing it down though.


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Re: Is this enough Spawn? spawn: coir ratio [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #22133476 - 08/24/15 12:12 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

usually I tamp it down lightly, to try & remove any air pockets or sub that is poking up.

seen quite a few bags of strain grain fruit well so I figure about any ratio is ok.


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Re: Is this enough Spawn? spawn: coir ratio [Re: tahoe]
    #22134302 - 08/24/15 07:23 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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tahoe said:
Dam tub must weigh 40 pounds. It's a solid 6 inches of substrate.

Been meaning to axe you guys. Do you prefer to pack down the substrate after mixing or leaving
It loose. I usually pack but left one loose the other day. It's almost completely colonized. It colonized faster if it did anything differently at all.




40 lbs of sub, I'd chuck in a couple more cakes :wink:

a pic usually says more than 1000 words but if you really wanna know if its enough spawn why dont you tell us how much sub you got?

and no I dont think anyone packs down their sub, at least not on purpose.


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Re: Is this enough Spawn? spawn: coir ratio [Re: tahoe]
    #22134317 - 08/24/15 07:30 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Why don't you have holes in your tub? :confused:

And I've never packed down my sub. You should really only do that when you're using straw.


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Re: Is this enough Spawn? spawn: coir ratio [Re: Buck513]
    #22135996 - 08/24/15 03:24 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I do not put holes in the tub until it starts pinning.


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Re: Is this enough Spawn? spawn: coir ratio [Re: tahoe]
    #22136161 - 08/24/15 03:57 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:lolwut:


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Re: Is this enough Spawn? spawn: coir ratio [Re: filthyknees]
    #22136442 - 08/24/15 04:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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tahoe said:I usually pack but left one loose the other day. It's almost completely colonized.




How'd you get a TC tag without knowing that we're working with an aerobic fungus that needs air pockets to survive?

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usually I tamp it down lightly, to try & remove any air pockets or sub that is poking up




You want air pockets. Don't tamp it down, just spread it around evenly.


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Re: Is this enough Spawn? spawn: coir ratio [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #22136459 - 08/24/15 05:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I'll even out my top layer but that's about it. And my casing. But I never tamp it down.


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Re: Is this enough Spawn? spawn: coir ratio [Re: taGyo]
    #22138318 - 08/25/15 12:20 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

6 in sub? That's pretty hefty man. I only make my subs 3-3.5 in. You could have made 2 tubs with all that. And if you wait to cut your your holes its gonna make a mess all over your sub. You don't want that


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Re: Is this enough Spawn? spawn: coir ratio [Re: Stuey1]
    #22138431 - 08/25/15 01:22 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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How'd you get a TC tag without knowing that we're working with an aerobic fungus that needs air pockets to survive.




I would imagine for two reasons. 1. I am better than you.
2. I don't assume shit.

Why would you think that I didn't know mycelium needs o2? How hard do you think I would pack it down? How hard do you think it would need to be packed down to inhibit growth.

Have you ever grown with straw? Have you seen how compact that needs to be?

How hard do you think that you would have to pack down coir to suffocate the mycelium? You would have to fill a tub with liquid to make a completely void of air. I would also bet that a person could not over compress coir with out the use of something mechanical to continue to compress the coir after you were finished. It will fluff back up after the weight, or whatever, was removed. This is assuming the substrate was not over saturated.
F'ing rookie


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Re: Is this enough Spawn? spawn: coir ratio [Re: tahoe]
    #22138444 - 08/25/15 01:29 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

The point of this thread was that I had 38+ cups of spawn. Way too much spawn for one tub but f it. I don't have room in the fridge for the excess spawn to wait and I do no have excess room for one let alone two more casings. So I built a monster. I have to lift it over my head to put it on top of another tub. It's a beast.

The whole "is this enough Spawn" was sarcasm.

I am trying real hard to be the Shepard


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Edited by tahoe (08/25/15 01:44 AM)


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Re: Is this enough Spawn? spawn: coir ratio [Re: tahoe]
    #22138451 - 08/25/15 01:35 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

too many shepards...not enough sheep


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Re: Is this enough Spawn? spawn: coir ratio [Re: cronicr]
    #22138494 - 08/25/15 02:06 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

How do you put holes in it with a colonized and pinning substrate? That seems... retarded and pointless? No offense. But what benefit is there that taped holes can't have? And wouldn't you get plastic shavings everywhere and potentially disrupt the sub?

How many damn tubs do you have?


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Re: Is this enough Spawn? spawn: coir ratio [Re: stareatclouds]
    #22138937 - 08/25/15 06:07 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Somebody must have said to drill holes in one of the teks and now people think of it as common knowledge. There are plenty of (right ways) to grow mushrooms. That is why there are so many teks.
I do not drill holes, I melt them. But plastic shavings on top of a substrate is not going to hurt it. Why would you think it would?  Your mycelium should be able to handle just about anything if it's healthy.

Let's just call this the overflow room. This is the room that the wife gets pissed about



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Re: Is this enough Spawn? spawn: coir ratio [Re: cronicr]
    #22139655 - 08/25/15 08:04 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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too many shepards...not enough sheep



:takingnotes:

Tahoe has been doing it for longer then most of us have been registered, leave it be lol. No one saw his B+ in the post a pic?

Just watch and learn.

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Re: Is this enough Spawn? spawn: coir ratio [Re: tahoe]
    #22139907 - 08/25/15 09:26 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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tahoe said:I would imagine for two reasons. 1. I am better than you.




Lol, I don't get how you're supposed to know that, but we'll go with it.

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2. I don't assume shit.




Well you assumed a packed sub would work better, and 12 years later you finally try not packing it? And then you find out a loose sub works better.

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Why would you think that I didn't know mycelium needs o2? How hard do you think I would pack it down? How hard do you think it would need to be packed down to inhibit growth.




It needs to be packed about as hard as a pint jar does to stall out. So not actually that tight.

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[Have you ever grown with straw? Have you seen how compact that needs to be?




Have you? The shit's hollow and kind of stiff. It holds LOTS of air pockets no matter what you do.

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How hard do you think that you would have to pack down coir to suffocate the mycelium? You would have to fill a tub with liquid to make a completely void of air. I would also bet that a person could not over compress coir with out the use of something mechanical to continue to compress the coir after you were finished. It will fluff back up after the weight, or whatever, was removed. This is assuming the substrate was not over saturated.




No, you really can do it. You're working on assumptions here. You just did your experiment and your results agree with me.

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F'ing rookie




:lol: I signed up 3 months before you did! And I was actually growing just a bit before that. You can call me all kinds of names that'd be accurate (asshole, lazy, inconsiderate) but not a rookie. Good try though.


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