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Re: Jill Stein - Green Party [Re: Connoisseur] * 1
    #23522602 - 08/08/16 05:43 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I agree with you wooof.

And I too will be voting for Stien.  I hope the momentum keeps up.  I honestly don't care if this costs Clinton the presidency.  It's her own damn fault if she keeps supporting the establishment above the people.

Of course, if she renounces her ties to Wall St and the Military Industrial Complex, I'll reconsider, but this is looking more and more unlikely.  :shrug:





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She aint renouncing shit man





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When she brought DWS into her campaign after resigning, she basically gave Bernie supporters the bird. I also heard a couple months ago that she was going after Jeb!'s donors, so she isn't likely to win over my support anytime soon. Assange will continue to leak dirt on Clinton and the DNC. Her presidential bid is looking quite pathetic at this point.

Clinton's only saving grace is that she is running against the worst presidential candidate in American history.


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Re: Jill Stein - Green Party [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23522825 - 08/08/16 06:58 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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What's interesting is how much negative press Jill Stein is starting to get; much like we saw with Bernie.  Clearly the Establishment is very nervous about her becoming another Sanders type threat, and wants to prevent that from ever happening.

Down with the Establishment, vote Stein if you liked Bernie.




I agree! Bernie was a sellout and wound up being a turncoat POS to his own agenda, maybe jill Will prove to have a bit more courage


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Re: Jill Stein - Green Party [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 1
    #23522848 - 08/08/16 07:04 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I also heard a couple months ago that she was going after Jeb!'s donors, so she isn't likely to win over my support anytime soon.



A lot of rich Republicans, like Meg Whitman, are starting to support Hillary.  That scares the hell out of me.  Also a lot of establishment Republican officials.

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Clinton's only saving grace is that she is running against the worst presidential candidate in American history.



Though Trump has said a lot of dumb things, I actually believe he's getting very unfair coverage by the mainstream media who are taking things out of context and twisting the truth.

For example, the New York Times just posted an article by a former CIA director stating "In the intelligence business, we would say that Mr. Putin had recruited Mr. Trump as an unwitting agent of the Russian Federation."

That sounded pretty bad, so I read the article and learned that because Trump doesn't agree with establishment politics on Foreign Affairs, he is an "unwitting" Russian agent.  What a load of bullshit.

I lost my respect for the New York Times when they did the same type of thing with Bernie.  They're no longer a liberal paper, they're an establishment paper.


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Re: Jill Stein - Green Party [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23522861 - 08/08/16 07:08 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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lost my respect for the New York Times when they did the same type of thing with Bernie.  They're no longer a liberal paper, they're an establishment paper.




Fucking hilarious to see dems get a taste of what republicans have put up with generations now... :lol:


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Re: Jill Stein - Green Party [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23522902 - 08/08/16 07:29 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Fucking hilarious to see dems get a taste of what republicans have put up with generations now... :lol:



Perhaps you missed that I called out the Times for being unfair to a REPUBLICAN.  I'm perfectly fine with a liberal bias, but I'm not ok when the truth gets twisted.  This is a recent trend for the NY Times.


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Re: Jill Stein - Green Party [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23522921 - 08/08/16 07:37 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Perhaps you missed that I called out the Times for being unfair to a REPUBLICAN.  I'm perfectly fine with a liberal bias, but I'm not ok when the truth gets twisted.  This is a recent trend for the NY Times.




You really should ignore him. As I have said before, be part of something bigger than yourself, a movement to bring intellectual conversation back to the shroomery!

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I also heard a couple months ago that she was going after Jeb!'s donors, so she isn't likely to win over my support anytime soon.



A lot of rich Republicans, like Meg Whitman, are starting to support Hillary.  That scares the hell out of me.  Also a lot of establishment Republican officials.

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Clinton's only saving grace is that she is running against the worst presidential candidate in American history.



Though Trump has said a lot of dumb things, I actually believe he's getting very unfair coverage by the mainstream media who are taking things out of context and twisting the truth.

For example, the New York Times just posted an article by a former CIA director stating "In the intelligence business, we would say that Mr. Putin had recruited Mr. Trump as an unwitting agent of the Russian Federation."

That sounded pretty bad, so I read the article and learned that because Trump doesn't agree with establishment politics on Foreign Affairs, he is an "unwitting" Russian agent.  What a load of bullshit.

I lost my respect for the New York Times when they did the same type of thing with Bernie.  They're no longer a liberal paper, they're an establishment paper.





I think the NYT is about as establishment as news media gets, tbh. I don't expect any better from them. They have been attacking Assange also.

What we do know about Trump is that he is a very vulnerable man. There are countless examples of his fragile ego leading him places he would not otherwise go, including running for president in the first place. Putin is well versed in manipulation tactics, and Trump will be very easily manipulated. He has already begun the process.


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Re: Jill Stein - Green Party [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23522946 - 08/08/16 07:43 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Fucking hilarious to see dems get a taste of what republicans have put up with generations now... :lol:



Perhaps you missed that I called out the Times for being unfair to a REPUBLICAN.  I'm perfectly fine with a liberal bias, but I'm not ok when the truth gets twisted.  This is a recent trend for the NY Times.




BS! The NYT has been doing this shit for years, only because it's happened to a fucking democrat, NOW you notice, or merely now you've acknowledged it, either way, it's delicious seeing you libs get a taste of your own medicine!:lol:


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Re: Jill Stein - Green Party [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #23522947 - 08/08/16 07:43 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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What we do know about Trump is that he is a very vulnerable man. There are countless examples of his fragile ego leading him places he would not otherwise go



I agree.

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Putin is well versed in manipulation tactics, and Trump will be very easily manipulated. He has already begun the process.



I'm not so sure.  :shrug:

Edit:  I think that's just anti-establishment rhetoric.


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Re: Jill Stein - Green Party [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #23525287 - 08/09/16 03:54 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: Jill Stein - Green Party [Re: Connoisseur] * 1
    #23525620 - 08/09/16 06:24 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

That interview was interesting. It's funny to see CNN saying, 'people are tired of hearing this disrespect toward the Trump and Clinton campaigns'. People aren't tired of hearing it. People are saying it. The opinion polls of these two candidates are abysmal.


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Re: Jill Stein - Green Party [Re: Connoisseur]
    #23525642 - 08/09/16 06:29 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Jill Stein will make a good president, but it is to far along down the road to even focus on voting for her. All it will do is make Hillary to become the winner of the election. Jill doesn't have that much air time to be embedded into the minds of the people. When election time will come, that the memories of her will just fade away. All that will be in people's thoughts, is the essence of her and which she does has some of Hillary's characteristics. Like a woman with short hair style that wears pant suits. Especially the elderly will get crossed up between her and Hillary and will accidentally vote for Hillary thinking that Jill is Hillary. She needs to make a bigger impression. But I like some of the things that she had said. She does want GMO products to be labeled and that she wants more studies done on GMO's by a trustworthy food and medical organizations to make sure that they are safe and the vaccines as well. But the media has kept her quiet during these debates so that the public will not know about what is going on under our noses.


https://www.reddit.com/r/jillstein/comments/4whtjw/why_does_jill_want_to_temporarily_ban_gmos/


Jill Stein on vaccines: People have ‘real questions’ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/07/29/jill-stein-on-vaccines-people-have-real-questions/?tid=sm_fb


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Re: Jill Stein - Green Party [Re: Douglas Howard]
    #23525683 - 08/09/16 06:39 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Jill Stein will make a good president, but it is to far along down the road to even focus on voting for her. All it will do is make Hillary to become the winner of the election.




Quite the opposite, actually. Do you understand American politics at all? The Green party is splitting the Democratic vote, generally speaking. Therefore, voting for her benefits Trump.


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Re: Jill Stein - Green Party [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #23525760 - 08/09/16 07:02 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Jill Stein will make a good president, but it is to far along down the road to even focus on voting for her. All it will do is make Hillary to become the winner of the election.




Quite the opposite, actually. Do you understand American politics at all? The Green party is splitting the Democratic vote, generally speaking. Therefore, voting for her benefits Trump.





That's BS, he's a Hillary supporter, he wants her, all the way:cookiemonster:


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Re: Jill Stein - Green Party [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #23526030 - 08/09/16 08:42 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Jill Stein will make a good president, but it is to far along down the road to even focus on voting for her. All it will do is make Hillary to become the winner of the election.




Quite the opposite, actually. Do you understand American politics at all? The Green party is splitting the Democratic vote, generally speaking. Therefore, voting for her benefits Trump.




From what I have seen, that most of Bernie's bros are moving on up to Trump. They are tired of Hillary's games.








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Re: Jill Stein - Green Party [Re: Douglas Howard]
    #23526879 - 08/10/16 01:56 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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From what I have seen, that most of Bernie's bros are moving on up to Trump. They are tired of Hillary's games.





Ehh..I wouldn't say most. This poll says roughly 55% of Sander's supporters will vote for Clinton and 22% said they will vote for Trump. 22% is still a substantial number. The only issue with this poll is they didn't suggest Stein. They may not have added her because she really doesn't have a chance as of right now (or at all to admit).

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-06-22/nearly-half-of-sanders-supporters-won-t-support-clinton


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Re: Jill Stein - Green Party [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23526894 - 08/10/16 02:02 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Quite the opposite, actually. Do you understand American politics at all? The Green party is splitting the Democratic vote, generally speaking. Therefore, voting for her benefits Trump.





That's BS, he's a Hillary supporter, he wants her, all the way:cookiemonster:




How is that "BS"? It is true.  :facepalm:
With your same logic, Gary Johnson (if he gets to 15%) won't take any votes from Trump.


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Re: Jill Stein - Green Party [Re: big_scrappy97]
    #23526906 - 08/10/16 02:09 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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From what I have seen, that most of Bernie's bros are moving on up to Trump. They are tired of Hillary's games.





Ehh..I wouldn't say most. This poll says roughly 55% of Sander's supporters will vote for Clinton and 22% said they will vote for Trump. 22% is still a substantial number. The only issue with this poll is they didn't suggest Stein. They may not have added her because she really doesn't have a chance as of right now (or at all to admit).

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-06-22/nearly-half-of-sanders-supporters-won-t-support-clinton





I am so tired of what Mr. Poll says.. But from what I see, is that more and more Bernie's supporters doesn't want to have nothing to do with Hillary. That they say that they will support Trump or Jill or else die. And by listening to the crickets' musical at the Clinton's rallies, that it shows that the crickets are doing a come back.


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Re: Jill Stein - Green Party [Re: Douglas Howard] * 1
    #23526930 - 08/10/16 02:26 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I am so tired of what Mr. Poll says.. But from what I see, is that more and more Bernie's supporters doesn't want to have nothing to do with Hillary. That they say that they will support Trump or Jill or else die. And by listening to the crickets' musical at the Clinton's rallies, that it shows that the crickets are doing a come back.




I know many previous Bernie supporters that now support Hillary. I don't know any Bernie supporters, other than myself, that now support Trump (even though there are plenty according to Mr. Poll). :strokebeard:

There aren't many people at her rallies because no one is excited to vote for Hillary now. It doesn't mean they aren't voting for her.


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Re: Jill Stein - Green Party [Re: big_scrappy97]
    #23527509 - 08/10/16 08:18 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I'll never understand how Bernice supporters can support Hilary after what she did to them. It's just fascinating to watch. It's like Stockholm syndrome


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Re: Jill Stein - Green Party [Re: hostileuniverse] * 1
    #23528424 - 08/10/16 02:37 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I picture this every time you refer Bernie to Bernice :lol:


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