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Re: Jill Stein - Green Party [Re: Connoisseur]
    #23733174 - 10/13/16 05:33 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

someone please make me feel better about voting for stein.

I've heard a few people are wanting to spoil their ballots or write "Bernie" on their ballots.. but surely that will just be recorded as spoiled ballots.

Spoiled ballots can be both acts of dissent and incompetence. How will the analysis know how much weight the protest vote carries if its embedded with spoiled  ballots purely done out of incompetence? Surely, on that basis its better to see registered votes with a third party. If there is a surge in a third party then its at least an indicator of dissent.. but in doing so the door could be more open for Trump or Hilary, both of whom are fucking douches.

The dilemma here is between tactical voting and voting on conscience. I like a lot about Jill Stein, she seems like the only choice really.. but I think as Fal said, she hasn't been mega impressive.


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Re: Jill Stein - Green Party [Re: Tipote]
    #23733219 - 10/13/16 06:15 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

If you vote for anyone other than Trump, you're vote is by default for Hillary,

Stein, Johnson, and Bernice don't stand a chance


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Re: Jill Stein - Green Party [Re: hostileuniverse] * 2
    #23733272 - 10/13/16 07:07 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

i applaud trump for using the term signed on with the devil when talking about bern shelling out


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Re: Jill Stein - Green Party [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23733674 - 10/13/16 10:23 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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hostileuniverse nearly said:
If you vote for anyone other than Hillary, you're vote is by default for Trump,

Stein, Johnson, and Bernice don't stand a chance




not my actual opinion


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Re: Jill Stein - Green Party [Re: Tipote] * 2
    #23758089 - 10/21/16 01:30 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Tipote said:
someone please make me feel better about voting for stein.

I've heard a few people are wanting to spoil their ballots or write "Bernie" on their ballots.. but surely that will just be recorded as spoiled ballots.

Spoiled ballots can be both acts of dissent and incompetence. How will the analysis know how much weight the protest vote carries if its embedded with spoiled  ballots purely done out of incompetence? Surely, on that basis its better to see registered votes with a third party. If there is a surge in a third party then its at least an indicator of dissent.. but in doing so the door could be more open for Trump or Hilary, both of whom are fucking douches.

The dilemma here is between tactical voting and voting on conscience. I like a lot about Jill Stein, she seems like the only choice really.. but I think as Fal said, she hasn't been mega impressive.




I am going to vote for Stein. I don't want her to be president. I think she's kind of daffy. However, I want 3rd parties to gain some steam, and I want there to be pressure on the 2 major parties. Once the third parties gain a bit of momentum, they will hopefully find more reasonable people to run for office.

All of that said, I don't dislike Stein, as a person. She just has a lot of outlandish ideas, and her voice sounds like a hippy hypnotherapy recording.


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Re: Jill Stein - Green Party [Re: Crumist] * 1
    #23758111 - 10/21/16 01:37 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Crumist said:
Quote:

hostileuniverse nearly said:
If you vote for anyone other than Hillary, you're vote is by default for Trump,

Stein, Johnson, and Bernice don't stand a chance




not my actual opinion




HU... says things. Not correct things, but things. Not everything is so simple as he would have you believe. For instance, in the evergreen state, where I live, Clinton is a shoe-in. Therefore, voting for Jill, as a protest vote, gives Trump no advantage. However, if you live in a state like Ohio, your vote has some potential to do an infinitesimal fraction of service to the Trump.


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Re: Jill Stein - Green Party [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 3
    #23758581 - 10/21/16 04:59 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Stein may not be the best person, to be honest i dont think shes nearly as fit to be president as lets say ralph nader but i do think stein is a real human being and has ideas that we need to have a sustainable world for humanity.

without some of the green parties ideas we will surely die.


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Re: Jill Stein - Green Party [Re: Connoisseur] * 2
    #23758614 - 10/21/16 05:09 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

My entire inner circle is annoyed with me for not supporting Clinton when Trump is the alternative. But what none of them seems to understand is that this has always been "her's to lose" which is a figure of speech meaning she should, absolutely should win. With the money, media, support and going against a perceived buffoon... The only person who can prevent Hillary Clinton from becoming President is Hillary Clinton. And that's my last prophetic statement about it. Vote for Jill Stein so that the Green Party can get 5% of the vote and thereby gain more legitimacy but more importantly, because you cannot bring yourself to vote for options A or B.


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Re: Jill Stein - Green Party [Re: SoloTrip]
    #23769274 - 10/25/16 08:48 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

thanks guys, i feel better.


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Re: Jill Stein - Green Party [Re: Tipote]
    #23773114 - 10/26/16 12:14 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

just got my stein tshirt today after like 10 weeks


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Re: Jill Stein - Green Party [Re: Connoisseur]
    #23773139 - 10/26/16 12:23 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Too late, I just voted yesterday.

Actually, I voted for Stein even without seeing your t-shirt.  :wink:


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Re: Jill Stein - Green Party [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #23773161 - 10/26/16 12:32 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

lol


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Re: Jill Stein - Green Party [Re: Connoisseur]
    #23797165 - 11/03/16 10:38 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Watch this guy explain to Bill Maher and smug Silverman the Bernie or Bust "long game".


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Re: Jill Stein - Green Party [Re: SoloTrip]
    #23800022 - 11/04/16 08:25 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

silverman can eat a dick, shes a fuckin sell out

they payed her off to hop on the hilldawg train because all real human beings vote for stein :wink:


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Re: Jill Stein - Green Party [Re: Connoisseur]
    #23802622 - 11/05/16 07:24 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)



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