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Jill Stein - Green Party
    #22133123 - 08/23/15 10:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

So, I'm curious what you guys think of Jill Stein from the Green Party?

Obviously she would never win the presidential election, but I like her, and I think it takes nerve to do what she is doing.

What do you guys think?


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Re: Jill Stein - Green Party [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #22142307 - 08/25/15 06:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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So, I'm curious what you guys think of Jill Stein from the Green Party?

Obviously she would never win the presidential election, but I like her, and I think it takes nerve to do what she is doing.

What do you guys think?




I think that she will do better than the rest. 




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Re: Jill Stein - Green Party [Re: Douglas Howard]
    #22142586 - 08/25/15 07:14 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Better than the rest of what?


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Re: Jill Stein - Green Party [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #22144559 - 08/26/15 05:37 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Better than the rest of what?




She's better than the rest of the recent presidents, from Reagan to Obama. She is very educated, and which she cannot be fooled by the lobbyist or the friends of them. We need someone that know how to think, like Lincoln was a very educated president that cannot be made a fool out of, and JFK as well. We need educated presidents that has an sharp analytical mind to improve things. Right now, you can see what kind of minds that the past presidents has, by the fruit of their labors.


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Re: Jill Stein - Green Party [Re: Douglas Howard]
    #22144863 - 08/26/15 08:06 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I don't know much about her but I'm probably more in line with the green party than any other.

How would a Bernie/Stein ticket play out?  Can he tap someone that's not a d for the d ticket?  Would it be to weird?  Should he balance out his ticket with a moderate?

Seems like doubling down and having a woman on the ticket might work.  I'd like to see Bernie/Warren but I'd hate to lose her in the Senate too.


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Re: Jill Stein - Green Party [Re: paperbackwriter]
    #22144868 - 08/26/15 08:08 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

If Bernie gets the nomination he better put trump as his VP to ensure he survives his presidency.


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Re: Jill Stein - Green Party [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 2
    #22145191 - 08/26/15 09:22 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

The green party will always be fringe.  Their platform is based on empty ideals that, if followed, would only serve to make the human experience worse than it already is.

Fuck jill stein.


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Re: Jill Stein - Green Party [Re: Enlil]
    #22146286 - 08/26/15 12:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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The green party will always be fringe.  Their platform is based on empty ideals that, if followed, would only serve to make the human experience worse than it already is.

Fuck jill stein.




I don't know what their platform is entirely. I just like the idea of a 3rd party gaining some momentum in this country. Just not the Tea Party.


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Re: Jill Stein - Green Party [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #22146891 - 08/26/15 02:36 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

It doesn't really matter who the president is anymore.  This ship has been on autopilot for a long time.


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Re: Jill Stein - Green Party [Re: Enlil]
    #22147496 - 08/26/15 04:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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It doesn't really matter who the president is anymore.  This ship has been on autopilot for a long time.




It matters. The president can go to war with Russia.

I think congress matters more than 99% of ppl even realize.


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Re: Jill Stein - Green Party [Re: Douglas Howard]
    #22148176 - 08/26/15 06:32 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

>Lincoln was a very educated president that cannot be made a fool out of, and JFK as well.

JFK was an idiot in many ways. His major blunder being the bay of pigs. I know all the excuses people make for that, bottom line is if you are going to do something do it right or don't do it at all. He wimped out on air support which he promised and that doomed them. It could have been a clean coup but he fumbled as bad as an obumble.

His other blunder which arguably cost him his life was double crossing the mafia. His father made a deal with the mob for their support. In case you forgot, jfk won by a razor thin margin and the mob's help was crucial. When he set bobby against the mob they justifiably felt betrayed and with allies in govt who hated the bum, they took him out. You either leave the mob alone or you keep your end of a deal. Double crossers end up in ditches.


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Re: Jill Stein - Green Party [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22148250 - 08/26/15 06:44 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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>Lincoln was a very educated president that cannot be made a fool out of, and JFK as well.

JFK was an idiot in many ways. His major blunder being the bay of pigs. I know all the excuses people make for that, bottom line is if you are going to do something do it right or don't do it at all. He wimped out on air support which he promised and that doomed them. It could have been a clean coup but he fumbled as bad as an obumble.

His other blunder which arguably cost him his life was double crossing the mafia. His father made a deal with the mob for their support. In case you forgot, jfk won by a razor thin margin and the mob's help was crucial. When he set bobby against the mob they justifiably felt betrayed and with allies in govt who hated the bum, they took him out. You either leave the mob alone or you keep your end of a deal. Double crossers end up in ditches.




You really want to get into the JFK discussin again. I think you misrepresent history in the most discriminatory way possible toward JFK.


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Re: Jill Stein - Green Party [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #22148272 - 08/26/15 06:48 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Got anything specific to back that up with woozy? I didn't think so.


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Re: Jill Stein - Green Party [Re: Enlil]
    #22154866 - 08/28/15 03:51 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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The green party will always be fringe.  Their platform is based on empty ideals that, if followed, would only serve to make the human experience worse than it already is.

Fuck jill stein.





Bullshit. But yes the autopilt remark is true so theres that :lol:

I voted Jill Stein last election because Paul wasnt on the ballot in MI


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Re: Jill Stein - Green Party [Re: DeadHearts]
    #22155253 - 08/28/15 07:50 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

There is nothing wrong with voting third party no matter what the pro-govt shills tell you. Vote third party unless an outsider gets the nomination this time.

I happen to think bobby kennedy was taken out by the mob too. They realized he was just a tool so they whacked his brother first. They would have done him too but a sitting ag has protection and its a big job. But when bobby started running for the white house they were not going to allow that. I don't know how they got sirhan, maybe he really wanted to get rfk and they provided the support. Its like asking how they got ruby and kept him quiet. So the two involved in double crossing the mob both got hit but very few have questioned the events surrounding rfk's assassination.

The media deified jfk, people wrote songs about him and a cult was born, totally undeserved. The closest comparison might be to mandela, who was likewise raised to hero status despite a violent and evil past. The left has to search really hard for heroes, they have no real ones so they take what they can scrape up. They are working on obumble but it brings to mind the saying about polishing a turd.


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Re: Jill Stein - Green Party [Re: Enlil]
    #22159204 - 08/29/15 02:33 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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The green party will always be fringe.  Their platform is based on empty ideals that, if followed, would only serve to make the human experience worse than it already is.






Oh, I get it. They are the same thing as modern democrats and republicans. :smirk:


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Re: Jill Stein - Green Party [Re: starfire_xes]
    #22160626 - 08/29/15 12:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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The green party will always be fringe.  Their platform is based on empty ideals that, if followed, would only serve to make the human experience worse than it already is.






Oh, I get it. They are the same thing as modern democrats and republicans. :smirk:




Actually better, because Enlil is only referring to their energy and economic policy, I assume.

I think even something really stupid, but different, would be beneficial these days. Something to shake up the power structure for a few years and throw it out of balance so we can reclaim things.


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Re: Jill Stein - Green Party [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #22162503 - 08/29/15 09:15 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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The green party will always be fringe.  Their platform is based on empty ideals that, if followed, would only serve to make the human experience worse than it already is.






Oh, I get it. They are the same thing as modern democrats and republicans. :smirk:




Actually better, because Enlil is only referring to their energy and economic policy, I assume.

I think even something really stupid, but different, would be beneficial these days. Something to shake up the power structure for a few years and throw it out of balance so we can reclaim things.





That's a pretty low bar you set.  but in today's system, you could put a mongoloid idiot in the white house and he would probably do just about as good as any of the modern tools.  Hmm, on second thought, it would probably be an improvement.


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Re: Jill Stein - Green Party [Re: starfire_xes]
    #22162639 - 08/29/15 09:52 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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The green party will always be fringe.  Their platform is based on empty ideals that, if followed, would only serve to make the human experience worse than it already is.






Oh, I get it. They are the same thing as modern democrats and republicans. :smirk:




Actually better, because Enlil is only referring to their energy and economic policy, I assume.

I think even something really stupid, but different, would be beneficial these days. Something to shake up the power structure for a few years and throw it out of balance so we can reclaim things.





That's a pretty low bar you set.  but in today's system, you could put a mongoloid idiot in the white house and he would probably do just about as good as any of the modern tools.  Hmm, on second thought, it would probably be an improvement.




It depends. See, I like the fact that these tree hugger bitches are anti-war. If you get some fuckin hot headed backwoods redneck from Texas... or some shit like that.. Now you gotta worry about nukes flyin, and the national debt tripling.

On the same token, a lot of the shit that fucks this country over is intentional. It's done on the behalf of wealthy interest groups so Mr. President can go on after is last term and give speeches for $300,000 or whatever. So if we get some dumbass who doesn't even know what's in their best interest personally... might be better. It's worth a shot anyway. Lets shake some shit up, fuckit!


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Re: Jill Stein - Green Party [Re: starfire_xes]
    #22163227 - 08/30/15 01:20 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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The green party will always be fringe.  Their platform is based on empty ideals that, if followed, would only serve to make the human experience worse than it already is.






Oh, I get it. They are the same thing as modern democrats and republicans. :smirk:




Actually better, because Enlil is only referring to their energy and economic policy, I assume.

I think even something really stupid, but different, would be beneficial these days. Something to shake up the power structure for a few years and throw it out of balance so we can reclaim things.





That's a pretty low bar you set.  but in today's system, you could put a mongoloid idiot in the white house and he would probably do just about as good as any of the modern tools.  Hmm, on second thought, it would probably be an improvement.





Every 4 years the bar has and is already set to the lowest point. I still cant believe people by and large accept these idiots and media darlings
As the best this country has to offer. Pathetic.


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