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is this bacteria or normal....please help!!!!
    #22132089 - 08/23/15 05:48 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Hi everyone. To make a long story short...
i bought a grow box with live mycellium from amsterdam https://files.shroomery.org/files/15-34/037025293-20150824_013813.jpg i have grown before, pf tek, but it was cheap likr 45 bucks so decided to givr this a go)
Everything was going well. Still actually seems like its going well...its on day nu ber 8.....
the cased tray has a verm layer on top and it seemed as if some mycellium was starting to grow through it.  It seems as if some white blobs hsve groen on top.  Some foks have said it looks oksy and one person said it looks like it coulf be some kind of ehite bscteris.
i hsve never done a casing so i have no idea.
can anyone help me???????????
If it is bscteria of somesort, can sll thr colonized vermiculite be saved somehow????
Im stressedout and dont know what to do, heres a couple pics, there not the best, a bit close up...


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Re: is this bacteria or normal....please help!!!! [Re: Envy_Democracy]
    #22132105 - 08/23/15 05:50 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Hi everyone. To make a long story short...
i bought a grow box with live mycellium from amsterdam https://files.shroomery.org/files/15-34/037025293-20150824_013813.jpg i have grown before, pf tek, but it was cheap likr 45 bucks so decided to givr this a go)
Everything was going well. Still actually seems like its going well...its on day nu ber 8.....
the cased tray has a verm layer on top and it seemed as if some mycellium was starting to grow through it.  It seems as if some white blobs hsve groen on top.  Some foks have said it looks oksy and one person said it looks like it coulf be some kind of ehite bscteris.
i hsve never done a casing so i have no idea.
can anyone help me???????????
If it is bscteria of somesort, can sll thr colonized vermiculite be saved somehow????
Im stressedout and dont know what to do, heres a couple pics, there not the best, a bit close up...



no fuck that it has bacteria and mold throw it away kits suck ass


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Re: is this bacteria or normal....please help!!!! [Re: Envy_Democracy]
    #22132109 - 08/23/15 05:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: is this bacteria or normal....please help!!!! [Re: Envy_Democracy]
    #22132123 - 08/23/15 05:54 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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https://files.shroomery.org/files/15-34/037003902-20150824_014003.jpg
heres another close up shot



i dont need a close up that wont give you fruits


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Re: is this bacteria or normal....please help!!!! [Re: mrbart4444]
    #22132201 - 08/23/15 06:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Not sure if it's bacteria, but it's definitely nasty.


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Re: is this bacteria or normal....please help!!!! [Re: GreenRabbit]
    #22132353 - 08/23/15 06:44 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Is there any thing i can dk to salvage it?
It doesnt smell or anything just has some whige blobas here and there. What type of bacgeris does it seem to be?
Can i cut it off or use peroxide and salvage it?
It was fully coloized nice mycellium until this haplened, would be a shame to judt let it go


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Re: is this bacteria or normal....please help!!!! [Re: Envy_Democracy]
    #22132359 - 08/23/15 06:45 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Is there any thing i can dk to salvage it?
It doesnt smell or anything just has some whige blobas here and there. What type of bacgeris does it seem to be?
Can i cut it off or use peroxide and salvage it?
It was fully coloized nice mycellium until this haplened, would be a shame to judt let it go



bury it outside


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Re: is this bacteria or normal....please help!!!! [Re: Envy_Democracy]
    #22132368 - 08/23/15 06:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Its a also not grkwing rapidly at all, been there since about the start of fruiti g wh was 8 days ago.......


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Re: is this bacteria or normal....please help!!!! [Re: Envy_Democracy]
    #22132380 - 08/23/15 06:50 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

looks like shit load of bacteria


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Re: is this bacteria or normal....please help!!!! [Re: mrbart4444]
    #22132437 - 08/23/15 07:03 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I searched and fou d mh answer. Another guy had the same situation and even worse and his fruited nicely.
whatver it mah be, it wont affect the mushies much so it may look sgrange but its not all that bad ag all. Thanks


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Re: is this bacteria or normal....please help!!!! [Re: Envy_Democracy]
    #22144493 - 08/26/15 04:30 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

By the way.
sorry but i have to post this.
seems like there are a lot of people here that give MISINFORMATION.
Mrbart4444, with all due respect sir, why did you tell me my box was loaded with bacteria?
You couldnt identify the bacteria, you never said why it was bacteria, you just told me it was and that it wouldnt fruit.
well now its fruiting. And fruiting very very well.
kits dont sucks ass.  Its misinformation that does.
if i would have listened to you, i would have no fruits growing right now.
instead i have about 20 pins and most of them are turning into shrooms actually.
If anyone sees somethung like this on their substrate, then please dont throw it out. Especially if its penis envy....usually just penis envy blobs, genetics, or aerial mycellium.
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Re: is this bacteria or normal....please help!!!! [Re: Envy_Democracy]
    #22145487 - 08/26/15 10:18 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

In his defense it does look like a mess on the surface of the substrate. There were a few times I was like ummm... looks nasty. Honestly I wouldn't have that around my healthy cultures. Too much of a flight risk. Also yeah. You had to Jimmy rig your kit.. if you were to follow the instructions, you'd be in the same rut. Kits suck and people really shouldn't get them unless they know how to grow. That way they know how to rig it for proper fae and mist for proper hydration (but those people already grow, so why would they get a kit?). Brand new people trying the teks done on here get MUCH MUCH better success. The terrariums made on this site are made so you don't have to worry about fae at all. Just need to mist when needed.


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Re: is this bacteria or normal....please help!!!! [Re: Mad Season]
    #22145605 - 08/26/15 10:36 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I undertsand, it may have looked a little sketchy but....
i couldnt justify telling someone to throw it away. The problem i had wasthat he didnt tell me what it was he just said to throw it away and it wouldnt fruit.
it did is fruiting fine. So why nit help someone instead before telling them to throw there stuff away????
Thats what bothered me about it.
He said throw it away it wont fruit. 
No other explanation.
all good though, its fruiting thanks to you, me, and some patience.
i dont believe there was any bacteria on it at al btw.


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Re: is this bacteria or normal....please help!!!! [Re: Envy_Democracy]
    #22145640 - 08/26/15 10:43 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

We would prefer to see you grow properly, not managing to get some fruits despite an obvious contamination.

People around here don't bother to identify contams, if it looks wrong we toss.
We want high yields and I'm guessing you won't get even 10g dry from that...

You'll get enough for one trip if you are lucky.


Run multiple projects at once, don't get emotionally attached to your only substrate.
That way when one contams, it isn't a big deal and you can replace it with a healthy substrate that will surely yield better.

Feel free to prove me wrong though, post dry yield please, I'm curious.


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Re: is this bacteria or normal....please help!!!! [Re: Envy_Democracy]
    #22145651 - 08/26/15 10:44 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Please excuse my typos. Also mad season, i have to say that not everyone has access to all the stuff you mentioned above.
really, they dont.
not everywhere has a walmart around to go and buy these things, no matter how cheap it might seem, sometimes people just want to experiment with mushrooms and dont have the money to build a poor mans terrarium or whatever,
personally i dint have the time....or the equipment. Long story. If i explained to yoh, yoj would understand.
Also one last thing.
After researching for several days straight. I have seen countless pictures of PE in casings that resembled exactly mine,
resembled almost to a T.
some people even thought they had bacteria but it was all good in the end. I guess PE has a way of doing that sometimes, im not sure why.
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Re: is this bacteria or normal....please help!!!! [Re: Envy_Democracy]
    #22145662 - 08/26/15 10:46 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Poor mans terrarium. Teh fuK?
We haven't used those in like a decade...

I'm sure you can get a plastic tub anywhere and make a SGFC or a monotub.


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Re: is this bacteria or normal....please help!!!! [Re: GreenRabbit]
    #22145683 - 08/26/15 10:50 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Also bacteria doesn't mean it won't fruit.

I did experimenting with bacteria actually. Look: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21890806#21890806

I know you didn't get a canopy. Just because it doesn't smell or is making a few pins, doesn't mean it doesn't have bacteria right now. Not that I'm saying it does. Just saying bacteria is the hardest thing to identify and work with in this hobby.

Also what rabbit said. All u need is a plastic tote and the stuffing from a pillow to do a monotub.


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Re: is this bacteria or normal....please help!!!! [Re: GreenRabbit]
    #22145723 - 08/26/15 10:56 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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We would prefer to see you grow properly, not managing to get some fruits despite an obvious contamination.

People around here don't bother to identify contams, if it looks wrong we toss.
We want high yields and I'm guessing you won't get even 10g dry from that...

You'll get enough for one trip if you are lucky.


Run multiple projects at once, don't get emotionally attached to your only substrate.
That way when one contams, it isn't a big deal and you can replace it with a healthy substrate that will surely yield better.

Feel free to prove me wrong though, post dry yield please, I'm curious.




they should bother to identify them, how do we trust someone then.
so basically i can just tell anyone that anything is contamed and i should be trusted so that they throw it away?
That doesnt make sense?
How can we trust who we are asking for help?
Also not everyone want to run multiple projects per day or has the time and money to do so....
Im growing PE.
have you done that before?
I have, not just through a kit.
i also know what contams are  thats why i didnt really believe that it was one.
penis envy fruits tend to blob and eat away at casing layers...ive seen it on here about 50 times.....just do a search and youll it to.
maybe its the strain.
anyhow.....
over 30 pins and most of them looking like small shrooms already, i would definetly say that ill have more thanto grams dried....
even if i didnt, id be happy to trip off this special fruit with less. That was my point after all.
but yes, ill post pictures and show you the results in a few days,.


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Re: is this bacteria or normal....please help!!!! [Re: GreenRabbit]
    #22145786 - 08/26/15 11:09 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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GreenRabbit said:
We would prefer to see you grow properly, not managing to get some fruits despite an obvious contamination.

People around here don't bother to identify contams, if it looks wrong we toss.
We want high yields and I'm guessing you won't get even 10g dry from that...

You'll get enough for one trip if you are lucky.


Run multiple projects at once, don't get emotionally attached to your only substrate.
That way when one contams, it isn't a big deal and you can replace it with a healthy substrate that will surely yield better.

Feel free to prove me wrong though, post dry yield please, I'm curious.




they should bother to identify them, how do we trust someone then.
so basically i can just tell anyone that anything is contamed and i should be trusted so that they throw it away?
That doesnt make sense?
How can we trust who we are asking for help?
Also not everyone want to run multiple projects per day or has the time and money to do so....
Im growing PE.
have you done that before?
I have, not just through a kit.
i also know what contams are  thats why i didnt really believe that it was one.
penis envy fruits tend to blob and eat away at casing layers...ive seen it on here about 50 times.....just do a search and youll it to.
maybe its the strain.
anyhow.....
over 30 pins and most of them looking like small shrooms already, i would definetly say that ill have more thanto grams dried....
even if i didnt, id be happy to trip off this special fruit with less. That was my point after all.
but yes, ill post pictures and show you the results in a few days,.


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Re: is this bacteria or normal....please help!!!! [Re: Envy_Democracy]
    #22146271 - 08/26/15 12:41 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Lol, yes, I have grown PE, and it never looked like that... Nice try on calling me out lol.
That's not what blobs are supposed to look like either...

We are here to grow mushrooms, not contams. No one really gives a shit to identify every contam. It's usually trich anyway.

Go ahead and let it ride, just start another project too.


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