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#22131335 - 08/23/15 03:20 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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http://www.technologyreview.com/news/514846/google-and-nasa-launch-quantum-computing-ai-lab/
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Quantum computing took a giant leap forward on the world stage today as NASA and Google, in partnership with a consortium of universities, launched an initiative to investigate how the technology might lead to breakthroughs in artificial intelligence.
The new Quantum Artificial Intelligence Lab will employ what may be the most advanced commercially available quantum computer, the D-Wave Two, which a recent study confirmed was much faster than conventional machines at defeating specific problems (see “D-Wave’s Quantum Computer Goes to the Races, Wins”). The machine will be installed at the NASA Advanced Supercomputing Facility at the Ames Research Center in Silicon Valley and is expected to be available for government, industrial, and university research later this year.
Google believes quantum computing might help it improve its Web search and speech recognition technology. University researchers might use it to devise better models of disease and climate, among many other possibilities. As for NASA, “computers play a much bigger role within NASA missions than most people realize,” says quantum computing expert Colin Williams, director of business development and strategic partnerships at D-Wave. “Examples today include using supercomputers to model space weather, simulate planetary atmospheres, explore magnetohydrodynamics, mimic galactic collisions, simulate hypersonic vehicles, and analyze large amounts of mission data.”
Quantum computers exploit the bizarre quantum-mechanical properties of atoms and other building blocks of the cosmos. At itse very smallest scale, the universe becomes a fuzzy, surreal place—objects can seemingly exist in more than one place at once or spin in opposite directions at the same time. D-Wave systems fridge
Keep cool: This system cools parts of D-Wave’s computer to 20 millikelvin.
While regular computers symbolize data in bits, 1s and 0s expressed by flicking tiny switch-like transistors on or off, quantum computers use quantum bits, or qubits, that can essentially be both on and off, enabling them to carry out two or more calculations simultaneously. In principle, quantum computers could prove extraordinarily much faster than normal computers for certain problems because they can run through every possible combination at once. In fact, a quantum computer with 300 qubits could run more calculations in an instant than there are atoms in the universe.
D-Wave, which bills itself as the first commercial quantum computer company, has backers that include Amazon.com founder Jeff Bezos and the CIA’s investment arm In-Q-Tel (see “The CIA and Jeff Bezos Bet on Quantum Computing”). It sold its first quantum computing system, the 128-qubit D-Wave One, to the military contractor Lockheed Martin in 2011. Earlier this year it upgraded that machine to a 512-qubit D-Wave Two—reputedly for about $15 million, which might be roughly what the new Quantum Artificial Intelligence Lab paid for its device.
The collaboration between NASA, Google, and the Universities Space Research Association (USRA) aims to use its computer to advance machine learning, a branch of artificial intelligence devoted to developing computers that can improve with experience. Machine learning is a matter of optimizing behavior that may be easier for quantum computers than conventional machines.
For instance, imagine trying to find the lowest point on a surface covered in hills and valleys. A classical computer might start at a random spot on the surface and look around for a lower spot to explore until it cannot walk downhill anymore. This approach can often get stuck in a local minimum, a valley that is not actually the very lowest point on the surface. On the other hand, quantum computing could make it possible to tunnel through a ridge to see if there is a lower valley beyond it.
“Looks like win-win-win to me—Google, NASA, and USRA bring unique skills and an interest in novel applications to the field,” says Seth Lloyd, a quantum-mechanical engineer at MIT. “In my opinion, the focus on factoring and code-breaking for quantum computers has overemphasized the quest for constructing a large-scale quantum computer, while slighting other potentially more useful and equally interesting applications. Quantum machine learning is an example of a smaller-scale application of quantum computing.”
Over the years, many critics have questioned whether D-Wave’s machines are actually quantum computers and whether they are any more powerful than conventional machines. The standard approach toward operating quantum computers, called the gate model, involves arranging qubits in circuits and making them interact with each other in a fixed sequence. In contrast, D-Wave starts off with a set of noninteracting qubits—a collection of supercomputing loops kept at their lowest energy state, called the ground state—and then slowly, or “adiabatically,” transforms this system into a set of qubits whose interactions at its ground state represent the correct answer for the specific problem the researchers programmed it to solve.
Many scientists have wondered whether the approach D-Wave used was vulnerable to disturbances that might keep qubits from working properly. But independent researchers recently found that D-Wave’s computers can actually solve certain problems up to 3,600 times faster than classical computers. Before choosing the D-Wave Two, NASA, Google, and USRA ran the computer past a series of benchmark and acceptance tests. It passed, in some cases by a giant margin.
USRA will invite researchers across the United States to use the machine. Twenty percent of its computing time will be open to the university community at no cost through a competitive selection process, while the rest of it will be split evenly between NASA and Google. “We’ll be having some of the best and brightest minds in the country working on applications that run on the D-Wave hardware,” Williams says.
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Re: google and quantum computers [Re: Salomon]
#22131357 - 08/23/15 03:24 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: google and quantum computers [Re: Salomon]
#22131359 - 08/23/15 03:25 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: google and quantum computers [Re: nicechrisman]
#22131391 - 08/23/15 03:34 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Fuck yeah, can't believe this is happening already 
Now hopefully they put it to good use, so much could be possible with technology like this...
An AI running on a quantum super computer could be scarily intelligent can't wait to hear what develops.
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Re: google and quantum computers [Re: nicechrisman]
#22131392 - 08/23/15 03:34 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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soon all hopes for gaining freedom will be gone
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Re: google and quantum computers [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22131399 - 08/23/15 03:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Only if they use their crazy supercomputers for mind control or to put us all in the matrix
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much simpliar than that, robots and computers that track your every move, analyze your piss at every toliet, analyze your blood and breath before entering any car or store, ect ect ect. its coming, but are you ready for it?
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Re: google and quantum computers [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22131713 - 08/23/15 04:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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2,268 views lol
google has it's spiders all over this
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Re: google and quantum computers [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22131834 - 08/23/15 04:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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makaveli8x8 said: much simpliar than that, robots and computers that track your every move, analyze your piss at every toliet, analyze your blood and breath before entering any car or store, ect ect ect. its coming, but are you ready for it?
Nanobots? Sounds like that is more what you are thinking of. All of that and more could be possible without us even realizing it using nanobots.
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makaveli8x8 said: much simpliar than that, robots and computers that track your every move, analyze your piss at every toliet, analyze your blood and breath before entering any car or store, ect ect ect. its coming, but are you ready for it?
Nanobots? Sounds like that is more what you are thinking of. All of that and more could be possible without us even realizing it using nanobots.
It's crazy now days, with facial recognition and what not they they do your best to invade your privacy! I'm not sure if its true but I read here in the USA we have no right to privacy that its not in the constitution.
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Re: google and quantum computers [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22132571 - 08/23/15 07:46 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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makaveli8x8 said: soon all hopes for gaining freedom will be gone
That's about right. However, I have my doubts about this.
>While regular computers symbolize data in bits, 1s and 0s expressed by flicking tiny switch-like transistors on or off, quantum computers use quantum bits, or qubits, that can essentially be both on and off, enabling them to carry out two or more calculations simultaneously. In principle, quantum computers could prove extraordinarily much faster than normal computers for certain problems because they can run through every possible combination at once. In fact, a quantum computer with 300 qubits could run more calculations in an instant than there are atoms in the universe.
Sounds like bullshit to me. I want an explanation of exactly what a qubit is, not vague nonsense like that. How is a qubit made, how do they know if its on or off and how do they get an output from it? Its both on and off at the same time? More calculations in an instant than there are atoms in the universe? Uh huh, and fairies make it work.
Someone is being taken for a ride here, probably the govt which is the biggest sucker around.
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Re: google and quantum computers [Re: Stonehenge]
#22132587 - 08/23/15 07:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Have you read up on quantum computing at all?
It uses particles instead of electrical signals as when particles are linked they react with each other instantly.
Say you move particle A, which is linked with particles b-z. All the other particles instantly react as if they were moved too. This allows us to read the information that particle A was moved at particle Z. Compare this to standard computers that relay information. This is direct quantum computing using particles linked together...
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exactly what a qubit is
It is pretty simple. Instead of standard bits, which are 1's or 0's a qbit is either and or both. So instead of each bit in a sequence being 1 piece of data each qubit could be 4. This combined with the difference in information relay will make them operate on an entirely different level from regular computers. That and they will be made much nicer of course.
Why do you think it cost them 15 million$?
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>It uses particles instead of electrical signals as when particles are linked they react with each other instantly.
What particles, how are they linked? Do you mean electrons, neutrons, atoms, what?
>Say you move particle A, which is linked with particles b-z. All the other particles instantly react as if they were moved too. This allows us to read the information that particle A was moved at particle Z.
How are they linked, how do you "read" particle z?
>It is pretty simple. Instead of standard bits, which are 1's or 0's a qbit is either and or both.
So the electron is either and or both???
>So instead of each bit in a sequence being 1 piece of data each qubit could be 4.
How do you know which it is? You sound like you know about it so explain to us unhip people how it works? So far I do not see an explanation at all. Answering my questions will go a long way.
>Why do you think it cost them 15 million$?
I guess they didn't have the nerve to ask for $200 million.
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Re: google and quantum computers [Re: Stonehenge]
#22132827 - 08/23/15 08:48 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't know a ton about it I just find it very interesting and have read up a bit on the subject.
Last time I checked though it was supposed to be years before they actually could pull off linking all the particles to make a quantum computer.
If you want to know all the details start reading up on the subject I shared mos of what I remember.
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Re: google and quantum computers [Re: Salomon]
#22133095 - 08/23/15 10:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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google has it's spiders all over this
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Re: google and quantum computers [Re: Salomon]
#22133135 - 08/23/15 10:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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What kind of logic does quibits entail?
Boolean logic doesn't allow for something to be both 1 and 0 (true and false) at the same time. What logic then is behind quibits? I mus not be understanding correctly.
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Re: google and quantum computers [Re: Salomon]
#22133232 - 08/23/15 10:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Salomon said: 2,268 views lol
google has it's spiders all over this
11,460 views 

Almost 13,000 now...
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that shit will start posting in here pretending to be other people oh wait nvm that would be some 2.0 shit
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Re: google and quantum computers [Re: Konyap]
#22133252 - 08/23/15 10:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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What if the super computer discovers the reason to live is to unlock porn websites and sell drugs on the black market
what then will we have besides copy and paste?
insert and del?
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Re: google and quantum computers [Re: Konyap]
#22133312 - 08/23/15 11:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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what happens when 1 of the particles decays and suddenly yes means no when its asked if black lives matter
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