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(first grow) - Pinning but no further growth + possible contam
    #22131220 - 08/23/15 02:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I have 1 cake I made with the PF tek. Fully colonized ok and waited a further week or so until pinning started. I then dunk and rolled and put into my SGFC. It's now been 8 days and I have saw little to no pinning from when I begun.

SGFC is in my spare room raised off the ground getting indirect sunlight by day and in the dark at night. 1/4" holes spaced out on all sides and has been between 70-75 degrees and 99% humidity on my reader.

I've been misting the cake 2/3 times a day and fanning 5/6 times roughly every hour or so.

Currently my perlite level is too low, probably about 3" height and I am waiting for some more to arrive. I've been misting the perlite more and also resoaking it when it feels completely dry until I get some more.

Another thing I'm not sure if it could be causing issues is that some of the holes on the side of my chamber have slight cracks in them where they cracked when drilling. I'd say 90% of the holes are fine though.

I've attached photos of the only noticeable pinning. There's a slightly larger one which has gone down and can't see the end. And theres also the 4 or 5 that are tightly grouped together. This pinned on the first day or so and have been the same since.

On the photo with the 4/5 pins, I have noticed the area directly above them has turned a dark colour the last day or 2, is this a possible contaminate?

Any help would be appreciated as to why I'm not seeing any further growth. Could my perlite level be causing the issue despite the resoak ?

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Re: (first grow) - Pinning but no further growth + possible contam [Re: mushheed]
    #22131293 - 08/23/15 03:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

SOUNDS like your doing everything right. How long are you fanning for? Via 10 seconds 60 seconds?

Can we get a picture of the SGFC?

Also if your having to re-hydrate your perlite (im currently having to do this)
Its more likely your perlite is too coarse or too "big" of pieces. Don't want too fine perlite, but IME too big is an issue also.


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Re: (first grow) - Pinning but no further growth + possible contam [Re: JacobStorm]
    #22131465 - 08/23/15 03:48 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I usually fan for around 30/60 seconds until my arms hurt haha. If I've misted been fan to make sure there's no sitting water.

Here's a pic of my chamber. The perlite doesn't go completely dry but can see the difference from when its first soaked. For the first few days I just had it on the table raised with candle holders but originally when I saw no growth I thought to raise it completely incase no air was getting underneath but not made any difference.

Light is from the windows behind. Theres no direct sunlight comes in as there's quite a few trees overlooking outside.

Took me 3 previous attempts to to get this far now feel like giving up! :frown:



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Re: (first grow) - Pinning but no further growth + possible contam [Re: mushheed]
    #22131549 - 08/23/15 04:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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mushheed said:
I usually fan for around 30/60 seconds until my arms hurt haha. If I've misted been fan to make sure there's no sitting water.

Here's a pic of my chamber. The perlite doesn't go completely dry but can see the difference from when its first soaked. For the first few days I just had it on the table raised with candle holders but originally when I saw no growth I thought to raise it completely incase no air was getting underneath but not made any difference.

Light is from the windows behind. Theres no direct sunlight comes in as there's quite a few trees overlooking outside.

Took me 3 previous attempts to to get this far now feel like giving up! :frown:






Definitely don't give up buddy. If it's possible but that Fc in the sun. Direct sunlight usually helps jumpstart stubborn cakes. Sometimes it takes a while mate. Stay positive. I understand the frustration but these things happen. I can't see the dark spot your talking about in the picture just keep an eye out for black. That would be a definite contaminate.


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Re: (first grow) - Pinning but no further growth + possible contam [Re: JacobStorm]
    #22131567 - 08/23/15 04:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Also you need that SGFC off the floor at least 6"-12" take a skewer or something that fits the holes and poke it through the bottomed holes. They tend to get plugged.


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Re: (first grow) - Pinning but no further growth + possible contam [Re: JacobStorm]
    #22131598 - 08/23/15 04:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Sorry to flood your post. Did you dunk and roll after birthing?  Pick up the cake. It should feel as heavy as a cup of water. If it doesn't then it's dry as hell buddy.


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Re: (first grow) - Pinning but no further growth + possible contam [Re: JacobStorm]
    #22131614 - 08/23/15 04:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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also add twice the amount of perlite you are rocking now.


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Re: (first grow) - Pinning but no further growth + possible contam [Re: spacechildo]
    #22133739 - 08/24/15 02:23 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Sorry for the late reply. Was night over here

I appreciate all your help. Tried your suggestions this morning here and will see how it goes today.

I originally dunked for 24 hours then rolled. Picking up the cake this morning, it has a bit of weight to it but definitely not as heavy when I first dunked. Maybe it's too dry?

Will get a more clearer photo of the dark spot i mean. More perlite is meant to arrive tomorrow. Is it worth me dunking again until then to try and savior something?


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Re: (first grow) - Pinning but no further growth + possible contam [Re: mushheed]
    #22133771 - 08/24/15 02:53 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Mist the cakes before they pin you won't have to redunk


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Re: (first grow) - Pinning but no further growth + possible contam [Re: MykoMyers]
    #22133814 - 08/24/15 03:31 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

There's already a few pins however they've not grown any further in like a week.

Shall I just heavily mist and fan to stop them drying out too much


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Re: (first grow) - Pinning but no further growth + possible contam [Re: mushheed]
    #22133924 - 08/24/15 04:44 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Cakes and perlite honestly are hard to get right . I would next time try crumbling the cakes into something and spawning in a small tray with something that holds moisture like pure coir
Also you shouldn't ever mist it now that it has pinned. Trays can sometimes be watered without wetting the caps also helping you get flushes without even being in a chamber. Like using wax paper.


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Re: (first grow) - Pinning but no further growth + possible contam [Re: MykoMyers]
    #22134213 - 08/24/15 06:46 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

sorry dude but thats old info from the drip shield days.

cakes and perlite is the simplest thing out there, if your cakes look dry you mist them, if not leave them alone.

no point in re-dunking so soon, just dunk after each flush as normal.
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Re: (first grow) - Pinning but no further growth + possible contam [Re: spacechildo]
    #22134349 - 08/24/15 07:41 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Will keep misting until the perlite arrives then give it a few days and hopefully see some more growth !

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