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In this thread post one example that you think defines an example of extreme waste in society
    #22130534 - 08/23/15 11:40 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

If you find it necessary to discuss socialism vs communism or who worked so much harder for what be my guest. However I wanted to primarily leave cash as a trade example out of the discussion and more so focus on necessity and simply provide examples of things you have seen to be entirely wasteful in society.

For example:

If Bill Gates personal worth is $60 billion and a sandwich is worth $6 retail in general and Bill Gates does not believe in feeding people for free then that means he could buy 6 billion sandwiches in his life time and could never eat them. Meanwhile if a bum who hung out outside a gas station and pandered for money got approx $1 every 25 minutes, it would take him over 4 hours to get the $6 required to buy a sandwich.

Is this a good example of a waste of resources? I'd like to think so

Any other good examples you can provide with disregard to who worked how hard for what? Also let's disregard "intelligence" and "engineering ability" from the argument if possible. Let's disregard the labor required or equipment needed to be engineered to create the means of dispersal. If possible, please just provide here an example of an extremely bad waste of resources that could have been dispersed better.

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Re: In this thread post one example that you think defines an example of extreme waste in society [Re: imachavel]
    #22130845 - 08/23/15 12:57 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

The drug war.


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Re: In this thread post one example that you think defines an example of extreme waste in society [Re: imachavel]
    #22131094 - 08/23/15 02:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

>If Bill Gates personal worth is $60 billion and a sandwich is worth $6 retail in general and Bill Gates does not believe in feeding people for free then that means he could buy 6 billion sandwiches in his life time and could never eat them

Actually, he could buy 10 billion of them at full price. Anyone buying that many will get a large discount as well.

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Re: In this thread post one example that you think defines an example of extreme waste in society [Re: imachavel]
    #22131160 - 08/23/15 02:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Bill Gates gives away more money than you will earn in your whole life.


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Re: In this thread post one example that you think defines an example of extreme waste in society [Re: Sun King]
    #22132735 - 08/23/15 08:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:rolleyes:

You mean he "gave it away" to the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation?

Which went into stock?

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Re: In this thread post one example that you think defines an example of extreme waste in society [Re: imachavel]
    #22132744 - 08/23/15 08:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Gates is an idiot in some ways. He sends vaccines to Africa which has the highest population density and highest birthrate in any continent in the world. Brilliant move. Now who will feed and house all those people who didn't die? And the brats they crap out? Starvation and shelter etc are their needs, not more people. They need less people.


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Re: In this thread post one example that you think defines an example of extreme waste in society [Re: imachavel]
    #22134294 - 08/24/15 07:22 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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:rolleyes:

You mean he "gave it away" to the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation?

Which went into stock?

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His foundation gives away money. :rolleyes:

Of course it went into stock. Do know what a foundation is?


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Re: In this thread post one example that you think defines an example of extreme waste in society [Re: Sun King]
    #22134426 - 08/24/15 08:09 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Nothing comes even close to the bailouts and corporate welfare offered to Wall Street.  Nothing.


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Re: In this thread post one example that you think defines an example of extreme waste in society [Re: Sun King]
    #22134518 - 08/24/15 08:41 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Bill Gates gives away more money in a year than you will earn in your whole life.




fixed it for ya.

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Gates is an idiot in some ways. He sends vaccines to Africa which has the highest population density and highest birthrate in any continent in the world. Brilliant move. Now who will feed and house all those people who didn't die? And the brats they crap out? Starvation and shelter etc are their needs, not more people. They need less people.





You're a real humanitarian. There are many places in the world people are 'crapping out babies', so we should let them wallow in their own misery. I thought the right was supposed to the christians god fearing party.


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Re: In this thread post one example that you think defines an example of extreme waste in society [Re: sweeper54]
    #22134569 - 08/24/15 08:59 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I think he is basically questioning the point of sending medicine to people to cure their diseases simply so they can live disease free while dying of hunger

Question:

Did he own major stock of the company that sent the medicine?

Rephrased:

Was it a publicity move that drove the company to fame and he somehow profited more even though he spent a lot of money to finance something?


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Re: In this thread post one example that you think defines an example of extreme waste in society [Re: imachavel]
    #22134604 - 08/24/15 09:13 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

The richest man in the world gave away a ton of money to create a foundation to send medicine to Africa to pump a stock.

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Re: In this thread post one example that you think defines an example of extreme waste in society [Re: imachavel]
    #22134635 - 08/24/15 09:22 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

That is a good post. We constantly get the left wing crap view that we must hand over our resources to those who have wasted their own. Therefore the idiots breed like mad while we try to carefully control population. What will happen is eventually the populations of overly dense third world countries become so big that they die off no matter how many handouts we send them. Then they have plagues, starvation, etc until the population goes down some.

Meanwhile the pollution they create from coal and wood fires travels around the world, they pollute the oceans, the land  and air. The next 50 to 100 years will be very bad as we reap the whirlwind from the stupid excesses of the bleeding heart liberals.

Animals naturally have die offs when they exceed their environment's capacity to support them. This has happened many times since animals can't control themselves. Since human can't control themselves either, the same thing will happen.


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Re: In this thread post one example that you think defines an example of extreme waste in society [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22134700 - 08/24/15 09:40 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Bill Gates is also developing agriculture there.

Maybe he just had good parents and decided he'd prefer to do something nice for the world with his money rather than hoard it until he dies :shrug:


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    #22134716 - 08/24/15 09:43 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Bill Gates is also developing agriculture there.

Maybe he just had good parents and decided he'd prefer to do something nice for the world with his money rather than hoard it until he dies :shrug:




He is hoarding it.  His wealth is growing faster now than when he ran Microsoft.


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Re: In this thread post one example that you think defines an example of extreme waste in society [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #22135049 - 08/24/15 11:14 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

He's donated 28 billion to charity and is worth 79 billion.

How do you figure he's hoarding money?  I'd be hard pressed to get my wife to give away 25% of her shoes.


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Re: In this thread post one example that you think defines an example of extreme waste in society [Re: paperbackwriter]
    #22135267 - 08/24/15 12:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Its a losing proposition anyway. Those primitive people use slash and burn because its easier and which creates pollution. The land quickly loses its ability to grow plants because they can't afford expensive fertilizer. The only solution is to lower the world population, stupid measures to crank out more brats is doomed to failure.

He makes a ton of money on that indirectly plus the tax write off and gets glowing press. Maybe he means well but he is going about things the wrong way. When the ecosystem breaks down they will never blame the do gooders or the people who can't control the size of their families, they will blame the wrong ones. The ecosystem is breaking down right now and more people is the last thing we need.


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Re: In this thread post one example that you think defines an example of extreme waste in society [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22135318 - 08/24/15 12:41 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

If you fly much internationally, you quickly realize that the vast majority of the earth's surface is not inhabited by Humans.  Most humans are clustered around coastal cities.  The earth really isn't over crowded, it's just that we've associated "freedom" with the entitlement to consume a lot of resources and produce a virtually limitless amount of trash mostly coming from a corporation dominated culture that pushes a consumption/waste/dispose mindset for a small percentage of the planet and poverty for the rest.  It is this sense that some humans "deserve" a level of wealth while others struggle in absolute poverty with the main determining factor simply being where you're born.

We have plenty of resources, talent, labor and interest in literally creating a paradise on this planet where everyone has a decent home, healthy food, abundant clean water, very affordable transportation, meaningful work and things like health care and education.

Effort is organized around what is "profitable" vs what is important and necessary.  There are hundreds of extremely important projects to just get clean water, health food and proper sanitation to the planet but we "can't" do it because it's "not profitable enough" or because of horrendous leadership we put up with because they often provide profitable cheap access to that country's natural resources. 

This is, in essence, just the end result of decades of predatory capitalism and militant nationalism supported by an idiotic religious legacy of afterlife salvation cuts..  What we need is cooperative capitalism.  We need labor to have an equal voice in the boardroom as shareholders and we need every voter to have the SAME influence, regardless of wealth.  Until then, I predict continued wasting of resources, and extreme consumption of virtually everything by about 25% of the global population while the rest struggle in poverty.  The wealth class is making every critical decision on the planet and their most important filter is how will this decision bring more wealth and power to ME.  That is, in a nutshell, what creates tremendous waste of resources and, more importantly, human potential which is being squandered at epic levels.


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Re: In this thread post one example that you think defines an example of extreme waste in society [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22137508 - 08/24/15 08:40 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Let's just nuke the fuckers and put an end to their misery. Nothing good is going to come of them based on your sick scenario so let's just wipe them out.


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    #22138996 - 08/25/15 06:47 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Since the gates foundation is doing research in vaccines, Africa seems like the ideal place to do it.


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Re: In this thread post one example that you think defines an example of extreme waste in society [Re: Sun King]
    #22139398 - 08/25/15 07:38 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Someone that has that amount of money should buy an orchard that the fruits from the trees are only to be donated to feed the poor, but not to gain a profit; and then he could purchase an chicken ranch or hatchery where they can breed chickens or produce eggs and donate 1/2 and use the rest to produce more. I know it cost to maintain an chicken ranch or hatchery, but having volunteers programs to have them to run these places for an small percentage of eggs.


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    #22139421 - 08/25/15 07:39 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yes, they use Africa as a testing ground. Sweep, you want to nuke them?

Charity begins at home. When we have no more poor or hungry then think about donating to some other continent.


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    #22139637 - 08/25/15 08:00 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

That's fine for government money but if an individual wants to spend his money overseas he's free to.

You want to waste billions throwing people out of the country that are stealing low paying jobs that lazy Americans don't want.

If you want to help the poor & middle class give them a job rebuilding this country with those billions and not pipelines that benefit a few and Canada.


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    #22139643 - 08/25/15 08:01 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, they think people are their trash diposals; just open their mouth wide, and then they dump their trash.


According to a recent statement from the African Centre for Biosafety (ACB), failed GM corn from Monsanto is now being pushed on African countries with help from the Gates Foundation. This maize, known as MON810, has been grown in South Africa for 15 years, where it “failed miserably”. But so as not to call the seed a complete waste, Monsanto and Bill Gates are now pushing it into countries like Mozambique, Uganda, Tanzania, and Kenya—countries that need agricultural help.

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    #22139737 - 08/25/15 08:28 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Yeah, they think people are their trash diposals; just open their mouth wide, and then they dump their trash.


According to a recent statement from the African Centre for Biosafety (ACB), failed GM corn from Monsanto is now being pushed on African countries with help from the Gates Foundation. This maize, known as MON810, has been grown in South Africa for 15 years, where it “failed miserably”. But so as not to call the seed a complete waste, Monsanto and Bill Gates are now pushing it into countries like Mozambique, Uganda, Tanzania, and Kenya—countries that need agricultural help.

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The gates foundation while it may do some good is clearly evil overall.

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>You want to waste billions throwing people out of the country that are stealing low paying jobs that lazy Americans don't want.

It would hardly be wasted even if it did cost billions. The fact is, contrary to your moonbat way of thinking, it would save us billions. Soon as we got serious about tossing them out, they quit coming over. Soon as they hear about anchor babies not keeping the parents here, they quit doing that. Soon as president trump stops them from sending their wages back to mexico, they have no further reason to come here and the influx reverses. They will deport themselves

Lazy americans, as you put it, do not want to do hard work for min wage like your favorite people the illegals do. Soon as pay goes up to a more reasonable level, you will see lots of americans step up and take those jobs. The left wing wants the min to rise to $15, I suppose they want illegals to get that much too? Without the illegal competition, americans will gladly pick veggies and do other jobs. Your ideas mean our citizens can't feed their families while we support criminals.

Dems want illegals because they vote dem, even though they aren't supposed to be able to vote.


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Re: In this thread post one example that you think defines an example of extreme waste in society [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22140246 - 08/25/15 10:41 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

As soon as Donald Trump starts deporting immigrants all the restaraunt and cleaning staff in the hotels he puts his name on will be gone...


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Re: In this thread post one example that you think defines an example of extreme waste in society [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22140248 - 08/25/15 10:41 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Yes, they use Africa as a testing ground. Sweep, you want to nuke them?

Charity begins at home. When we have no more poor or hungry then think about donating to some other continent.




http://www.projectcensored.org/bill-and-melinda-gates-foundation-held-accountable-for-vaccine-fraud-in-india/

Don't even get me started on what a fraud the Bill and Melinda Gates organization is. I haven't even posted the 18 dozen links I've found online showing how the "charitable organization" has bought billions in stock, mostly of oil companies.

If they are so generous why the fuck does Bill attach an activation key to each version of Microsoft Windows so if you get a shifty virus you have to completely buy a new copy of Windows to reinstall unless the activation key hasn't been registered as invalid. So one copy of Windows isn't free forever? Why not? The foundation has apparently donated enough money to end hunger and disease in some countries

Yet hunger and disease still exist there. Btw, why doesn't he donate vaccines to THIS country? Oh, is it because he owns stocks through the foundation of those big pharmacy companies that sell the vaccines?

What did he get in return for giving away all those vaccines? Perhaps a back door deal to not get sued for all his billions for monopolization?(sick of the spell check) Of course no politician in their right mind would ever dream of pushing a law suit against Bill. That is....... unless he decided to donate to $30 billion to test vaccines in another country so big pharma could sell them later and everyone involved could make $130 billion.

Well, don't act like my theories make less sense then yours. "I think Bill Gates is the most generous man in history"

:rolleyes: yeah, I put him right up there with Obama


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    #22140261 - 08/25/15 10:44 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Yes, they use Africa as a testing ground. Sweep, you want to nuke them?

Charity begins at home. When we have no more poor or hungry then think about donating to some other continent.




http://www.projectcensored.org/bill-and-melinda-gates-foundation-held-accountable-for-vaccine-fraud-in-india/

Don't even get me started on what a fraud the Bill and Melinda Gates organization is. I haven't even posted the 18 dozen links I've found online showing how the "charitable organization" has bought billions in stock, mostly of oil companies.

If they are so generous why the fuck does Bill attach an activation key to each version of Microsoft Windows so if you get a shifty virus you have to completely buy a new copy of Windows to reinstall unless the activation key hasn't been registered as invalid. So one copy of Windows isn't free forever? Why not? The foundation has apparently donated enough money to end hunger and disease in some countries

Yet hunger and disease still exist there. Btw, why doesn't he donate vaccines to THIS country? Oh, is it because he owns stocks through the foundation of those big pharmacy companies that sell the vaccines?

What did he get in return for giving away all those vaccines? Perhaps a back door deal to not get sued for all his billions for mobilization? Of course no politician in their right mind would ever dream of pushing a law suit against Bill. That is....... unless he decided to donate to $30 billion to test vaccines in another country so big pharma could sell them later and everyone involved could make $130 billion.

Well, don't act like my theories make less sense then yours. "I think Bill Gates is the most generous man in history"

:rolleyes: yeah, I put him right up there with Obama




Foundations like this are giant tax shelters highly interconnected with the global financial network.  Small portion of the investment income (tax free) is put to work on projects, often benefitting their own investments while the capital is "invested"


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Re: In this thread post one example that you think defines an example of extreme waste in society [Re: imachavel]
    #22140264 - 08/25/15 10:44 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, what evil assholes they are not helping the U.S.

Oh wait, they do.

May as well rename this thread the shroomery vs. bill gates OP.  I think your example sparked a firestorm.


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    #22140288 - 08/25/15 10:49 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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As soon as Donald Trump starts deporting immigrants all the restaraunt and cleaning staff in the hotels he puts his name on will be gone...




:facepalm: Jesus Christ people actually think he is going to win?

Fuck, this country has indeed entered a new era of popularity. That guy in politics? Basically anyone who becomes president isn't required to do shit I guess :lol:


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    #22140311 - 08/25/15 10:55 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I don't actually think he's going to win lmao.His policies on immigration are are on par with policies Stormfront would like to see in place...


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Re: In this thread post one example that you think defines an example of extreme waste in society [Re: paperbackwriter]
    #22140312 - 08/25/15 10:55 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Yeah, what evil assholes they are not helping the U.S.

Oh wait, they do.

May as well rename this thread the shroomery vs. bill gates OP.  I think your example sparked a firestorm.




Those are very low numbers. Which point are you trying to emphasize?


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Re: In this thread post one example that you think defines an example of extreme waste in society [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
    #22140333 - 08/25/15 10:59 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I don't actually think he's going to win lmao.His policies on immigration are are on par with policies Stormfront would like to see in place...




However, in what way does he appeal to the mass hysteria? It wouldn't be the first time an idiot has won presidency with shit policies if he simply appeals to the masses ideals of insecurities solved and vanities strengthened now would it?


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    #22140358 - 08/25/15 11:04 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Reminds me of some other mass racially/culturally dividing leader a certain country had seventy some odd years ago....


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    #22140552 - 08/25/15 11:49 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Yeah, what evil assholes they are not helping the U.S.

Oh wait, they do.

May as well rename this thread the shroomery vs. bill gates OP.  I think your example sparked a firestorm.




Those are very low numbers. Which point are you trying to emphasize?




The first of those is a million dollars.  Many of the global initiatives are things we'll all benefit from like HIV research.

The point I'm emphasizing is that posts like this one are either uninformed at best or intentionally inflammatory at worst.

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Yes, they use Africa as a testing ground. Sweep, you want to nuke them?

Charity begins at home. When we have no more poor or hungry then think about donating to some other continent.




Funny too, isn't the right always blaming the left for demonizing rich people out of jealousy?  Yet Gates is such an easy target because he what?  Thinks differently than you?

I guess charity is only good when it's fueling conservative think tanks and climate change denial.

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    #22140602 - 08/25/15 12:03 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

So there must not be any needy people in this country since gates can throw away resources in Africa? Those other countries are competing with us for business, for food, clean water and even air. Those millions of brats they crap out add to the pollution every day. Then they come over here illegally and take our jobs. But pbw and the rest of the bats think gates is a saint. Any more saints like that and we will go under for sure.

Show me one of trumps positions that is crazy?


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    #22140706 - 08/25/15 12:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Aren't you the one against taking money from the rich and redistributing it?  I figured you'd be in support of Gates spending his money how he wants.

And funny too, it's actually the millions of brats here creating most of the pollution, both directly and indirectly from our purchasing of chinese goods.  Per capita Africa is barely even on the list.

Oh and your question is easy, Trump's position on climate change.

And lol at Africans coming over here to take our jobs.  That's not at all how black people got in this country.

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Go back to bed Stoney.

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The fact that nearly a third of the food in this country goes into the trash.


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The fact that nearly a third of the food in this country goes into the trash.




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    #22140804 - 08/25/15 01:06 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

>Aren't you the one against taking money from the rich and redistributing it? 

Who said to do that? You must mean yourself.

>And funny too, it's actually the millions of brats here creating most of the pollution,

Most of the pollution here, we have lots of citizens in need, why go to another part of the world to find needy people?

>both directly and indirectly from our purchasing of chinese goods.

Actually, it cuts down pollution here and lets the chinks enjoy it instead. I'm in favor of taxing them until we have a level playing field.

>And lol at Africans coming over here to take our jobs.

Some do come over to get on welfare, but mostly from mexico and s America.


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    #22142280 - 08/25/15 06:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Yeah, they think people are their trash diposals; just open their mouth wide, and then they dump their trash.


According to a recent statement from the African Centre for Biosafety (ACB), failed GM corn from Monsanto is now being pushed on African countries with help from the Gates Foundation. This maize, known as MON810, has been grown in South Africa for 15 years, where it “failed miserably”. But so as not to call the seed a complete waste, Monsanto and Bill Gates are now pushing it into countries like Mozambique, Uganda, Tanzania, and Kenya—countries that need agricultural help.

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The gates foundation while it may do some good is clearly evil overall.

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>You want to waste billions throwing people out of the country that are stealing low paying jobs that lazy Americans don't want.

It would hardly be wasted even if it did cost billions. The fact is, contrary to your moonbat way of thinking, it would save us billions. Soon as we got serious about tossing them out, they quit coming over. Soon as they hear about anchor babies not keeping the parents here, they quit doing that. Soon as president trump stops them from sending their wages back to mexico, they have no further reason to come here and the influx reverses. They will deport themselves

Lazy americans, as you put it, do not want to do hard work for min wage like your favorite people the illegals do. Soon as pay goes up to a more reasonable level, you will see lots of americans step up and take those jobs. The left wing wants the min to rise to $15, I suppose they want illegals to get that much too? Without the illegal competition, americans will gladly pick veggies and do other jobs. Your ideas mean our citizens can't feed their families while we support criminals.

Dems want illegals because they vote dem, even though they aren't supposed to be able to vote.




I does know that the migrant workers has the most dangerous jobs on the planet. Working around pesticide in the heat, migrant workers has to put on extra layers of clothing and cover up their mouth with scarves or mask to protect themselves from these chemicals. The government doesn't want the public to know this because of the fear of eating produce with toxic chemicals on them might detour them from purchasing them. The migrant workers had told me that the chemicals eat away layers of their skin and makes them break out with rashes. These chemicals are causing them to have birth defects and mentally disturb babies.

They doesn't need to raise minimum wages, because that will hurt the economy. But the problem is, that these corporations decides whether to raise the cost of their products which will cause inflation to rise as well. John F. Kennedy publicly announced that he was going to keep inflation down, but the steel manufactures decide to make a liar out of him by raising up the cost of steel and which steel is a most important element that we uses in our economy, and by them raising up the prices very high will cause inflation to rise. These corporations want to let us know that they are in control of  everything, not the government; if they want to destroy us,they can do it. That is why we must not let them have so much power by spreading our money around to small businesses, but not just only giving it only to them.


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Actually, it cuts down pollution here and lets the chinks enjoy it instead.




The 'chinks', as you so put it, are polluting the western seaboard.  Air has this funny way of moving.


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