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Kinshino
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High Doses of Dmt?
#22130332 - 08/23/15 10:37 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Can someone tell me what a high dose of dmt is like, or if its even worth it? I'm curious and kinda considering it. The highest I've ever done is 75mg, but I think it didn't effect me as much because I didn't wait an hour.
All opinions and stories are welcome, thanks. (:
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Re: High Doses of Dmt? [Re: Kinshino]
#22130439 - 08/23/15 11:12 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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On 75mg, u should have broke thru. Did u?
And breaking thru doesnt make u wanna push the dosage any farther...
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Re: High Doses of Dmt? [Re: Kinshino] 1
#22130483 - 08/23/15 11:22 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Kinshino said: Can someone tell me what a high dose of dmt is like, or if its even worth it? I'm curious and kinda considering it. The highest I've ever done is 75mg, but I think it didn't effect me as much because I didn't wait an hour.
All opinions and stories are welcome, thanks. (:
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"The artist on such a 'vision quest' is not seeking images for their own sake. Rather, the images uprise during his life-long journey to the Sacred, offering him entrance to a higher, spiritual realm. These images offer a gradual awakening to life's underlying holiness - what Aldous Huxley called 'the sacramental vision of reality'(2) The God appearing in such momentary visions is not the 'Our Father' of traditional religions, but a metanoic (literally, 'mind-altering') experience of the Sacred, threatening to blast apart the very vessel into which it is being poured."
100mg. Not only do I "leave" my body but also my mind. The world I know and the person I was before ceases to be. I end up in a living void of infinity and I'm there forever. There was no "me" before and it seems like I've been there all along. Past and future cease to be. It is utterly obliterating. Beautifully terrifying. It's like the universe is calling me back "remember what you are!" When you get back you are so enthralled to be alive in the flesh. I was never appreciative of life until I smoked DMT.




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Re: High Doses of Dmt? [Re: Eggtimer]
#22130592 - 08/23/15 11:58 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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LC- Yeah, but it was after I already finished breaking through, so it wasn't that strong I suppose. It just jumped me back in and I continued my previous trip. And why do you say that? Some people wanna go "deeper into the rabbit hole". I LOVE breaking through and I just want to experience the magic of dmt even further. It's kinda like building up your dose with any other psychedelic, seeing how hard you can trip until you reach your limit.
Eggtimer- Thanks for the wonderful quote, along with the beautiful artwork and your experience on 100mg! I really do appreciate it.  I plan on doing 100mg next, or close to it along with shrooms. I haven't had a strong trip in forever and I know I'm ready for one.
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Re: High Doses of Dmt? [Re: Kinshino]
#22130681 - 08/23/15 12:18 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think the breakthrough is the plateau and you can't really get higher than it. You'd be better off breaking through twice on 50mg spaced a few days apart IMO. Anytime I've tried to go further the two limitations are not being able to physically hit the DMT again and being unable to process a memory of the experience. When I used to dose a little higher I'd have trips that seemed blank, like 5 minutes later I'm opening my eyes and can't remember whether I saw anything or not.
I think the visuals are somewhat limited to the intensity of our imaginations, too. My earlier doses and breakthroughs were less bizarre than my later ones, and I think there's more to that than dosage. I think my mind and imagination have actually grown and unraveled over time and exercise, allowing for deeper insights. You can't get it all in 1 shot or more than you're capable of processing.
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Re: High Doses of Dmt? [Re: Icon]
#22130920 - 08/23/15 01:25 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Icon said: I think the breakthrough is the plateau and you can't really get higher than it. You'd be better off breaking through twice on 50mg spaced a few days apart IMO. Anytime I've tried to go further the two limitations are not being able to physically hit the DMT again and being unable to process a memory of the experience. When I used to dose a little higher I'd have trips that seemed blank, like 5 minutes later I'm opening my eyes and can't remember whether I saw anything or not.
I think the visuals are somewhat limited to the intensity of our imaginations, too. My earlier doses and breakthroughs were less bizarre than my later ones, and I think there's more to that than dosage. I think my mind and imagination have actually grown and unraveled over time and exercise, allowing for deeper insights. You can't get it all in 1 shot or more than you're capable of processing.
Yeah, I've heard of people blanking out when they take too much, and then there's others who take a lot and go deeper than expected.
You know that kinda makes sense to me as well. My trips were less intense while starting out too, but maybe that's because my technique has changed over time.
Thanks for the input, bro. (:
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Re: High Doses of Dmt? [Re: Kinshino]
#22130995 - 08/23/15 01:45 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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First time I smoked DMT I blanked out.
I spent a long time chasing breakthroughs. When I let go of the idea of comparing my experiences to other people's I enjoyed DMT a lot more.
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I did an 'undisclosed' amount recently of what my best guess is between 150-200mg. Loaded the bowl 3 separate times. Going to write a trip report of the break thru soon, this one is worthy of a write up lol
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Re: High Doses of Dmt? [Re: Kinshino]
#22132043 - 08/23/15 05:40 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Around 50mg to 60mg has made me black out instantly.....I think if I would have taken a little less, I would have actually remained conscious and would have had a far more intense and profound experience, rather than just blacking out.
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http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21012821#21012821
....I've experienced convulsions, involuntary flailing of my arms & legs, rolling my body around uncontrollably, and glossolalia/gibberish vocalizations from nn-dmt ....I have witnessed this happen to another and I've also heard a few similar stories of this happening to folks over the years. So these sorts of things can indeed happen with nn-dmt .
.......The time it happened to me was with 50mg to 60mg off a dab nail, I took it all in one single inhalation and don't really remember exhaling . It was more or less an instant black out, then when I was starting to become somewhat coherent again I realized my body was rolling/flailing around and I could hear all sorts of noises & vocalizations pouring out of my mouth (I still felt rather distant from my body at this point, and was back down very quickly after I noticed what was happening).
When I witnessed this happen to another...Same thing, the stuff was taken off a dab nail all in one inhalation...seconds later the dude was full on flailing/kicking his legs & arms about every where, rolling around all over the ground, screaming & hollering, crying, laughing...the whole thing went on for 15 to 20 minutes then he quickly came out of it and was wondering why he was laying on the ground with no recollection of what had just happened (at least at that time).
I've experienced, seen it happen to others, and have heard plenty of stories of people moving around and flailing about when it comes to high doses of smoked dmt....So peoples should keep this in mind when venturing into the higher doses.
Moving/flailing around from dmt during "break through" . How common is this?
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Re: High Doses of Dmt? [Re: openmind] 1
#22132111 - 08/23/15 05:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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100mg ultra pure smoked in a bong is too much imo. Feels too much like an alien abduction.
overkill
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Re: High Doses of Dmt? [Re: SleepyE]
#22132578 - 08/23/15 07:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Paperbackwriter- Ah okay, thanks for the input! (:
Bugler Boy- Awesome! Can't wait to read it! Ugh, I simply love reading dmt trips!
OM- Yeah I remember your story. Dabbing dmt is pretty intense. I always dab 50mg and I'm okay though. 
Sleepy- Omg, sup dude I haven't seen you in forever! How's it goin? Have you made any new reports or videos? And if YOU say 100mg is overkill then I'm DEFINITELY staying away now, haha. Not trying to get chopped in half and shit. ;P
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Re: High Doses of Dmt? [Re: Icon]
#22132760 - 08/23/15 08:36 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Icon said: I think the breakthrough is the plateau and you can't really get higher than it. You'd be better off breaking through twice on 50mg spaced a few days apart IMO. Anytime I've tried to go further the two limitations are not being able to physically hit the DMT again and being unable to process a memory of the experience. When I used to dose a little higher I'd have trips that seemed blank, like 5 minutes later I'm opening my eyes and can't remember whether I saw anything or not.
I think the visuals are somewhat limited to the intensity of our imaginations, too. My earlier doses and breakthroughs were less bizarre than my later ones, and I think there's more to that than dosage. I think my mind and imagination have actually grown and unraveled over time and exercise, allowing for deeper insights. You can't get it all in 1 shot or more than you're capable of processing.
I think its interesting that you say this because I experience the same thing, my trips now on any psychedelic are much more expanded and far out in some ways because I feel like my mind has been stretched and now has the capacity to process greater thoughtscapes.
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Re: High Doses of Dmt? [Re: Kinshino]
#22133009 - 08/23/15 09:39 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Oh, i see now.
When u smoked the 75mg, u had a tolerance build up from the recent breakthru trip right before that.
Try 75mg with zero tolerance. I bet you will like it
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LogicaL Chaos said: Oh, i see now.
When u smoked the 75mg, u had a tolerance build up from the recent breakthru trip right before that.
Try 75mg with zero tolerance. I bet you will like it 
Yeah I definitely wanna try it again on zero tolerance to see what'll happen. Everyone has talked me out of doing 100mg but I still wanna have a intense breakthrough. When was your last trip, LC? I hardly see any new threads from you in TPE.
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Re: High Doses of Dmt? [Re: Kinshino]
#22133355 - 08/23/15 11:23 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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definitely do it with zer0 tolerance.
My last trip was about a month ago i would say. Ive been taking a long break for (1) Trying to be good at new jobs and (2) Ive been remodeling the master bedroom in my GFs new house. Remodeling this room by myself is VERY time consuming.
Im expected to finish by the end of this month.
After im done, im DEFINITELY getting back into tripping in September: shrooms, DMT, shrooms with DMT, LSA extracts, maybe even Cacti!
Ive very excited to trip again, but right now, its work time.
Of course, im always thinking about The Psychedelic Experience
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DMT tolerance dissipates really fast (hours seriously). Probably a combination of it being endogenous and the short duration.
But yeah, I've tried chasing breakthroughs and basically felt like I was getting kicked out of hyperspace because the elves didn't want me to treat it like crack.
Probably just tolerance
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Re: High Doses of Dmt? [Re: SleepyE] 1
#22135329 - 08/24/15 12:45 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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SleepyE said: 100mg ultra pure smoked in a bong is too much imo. Feels too much like an alien abduction.
overkill 
wowww dude that drawing in your sig is really coming along. looks incredible in color!
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Re: High Doses of Dmt? [Re: Icon]
#22136751 - 08/24/15 06:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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thank you so much 
lots more to rework on it, takes forever with a mouse lol. but as a first digital painting im happy with it, lots more to learn tho 
too bad shroomery render is horrible, makes it look grainy and you really miss a lot of the detail plus it takes away from the look imo.
gonna clean up and smooth out some of the line work once it gets a little closer to fully finished. probably gonna redo the vest in the middle, just looks hideous to me
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Re: High Doses of Dmt? [Re: SleepyE] 1
#22136792 - 08/24/15 06:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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SleepyE said: thank you so much 
That plus and negative remind me of this album called polarity pretty sure it's about DMT haha
Shadowed recess between the realms Living planes of existence Writing the song of creation Synchronized alignment of time I feel my mind expanding Into the universe...I once created Synergy... Opening the psyche Beyond the pattern of thought Into the pre-embryonic dream Eras of conception...images of creation ...mirrored forever Dreaming of existence Images...in context Rendered figments of thought Memories of what was to be Psychedelic awareness of the soul's eye The portal consumes my mind Altering perspective Hallucination Dreams of life...death and rebirth Imagination Thought descends into self ...born Destinies ellipse as light returns Retrograde of life begins again Awakening the pineal gland Spirit molecule of the minds ...dream Visions of many worlds Hearts beat in unison Spans of time...eternities Histories begin...origins end Eternal cusp of tomorrow The monochrome planes of a broken existence Under a shattered sky Reborn into the light of a new world
Parallels exist within Reflection of time and space Inside of dimension Dualities evolving from a Single-cell universe within the molecule Within this dimension Of my creation In the blinding light of darkness I remain one/we become one Constant fluctuation Two suns born Born of the atom Symbiotic opposition Recreation of life changing Individual...sovereignty Absorb the other...fusion Conception of time's vibration collapses within Ancient forces of opposition Eternal balances of existence Aeons...futures...past...evolution Internal axis of resistance Pre-embryonic magnetic core Creation of all worlds inside Existence of thought Reaches beyond...forever Harmony achieved through unity Within the spectral fields of light...called time
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