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Re: Anchor Baby [Re: qman]
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qman said: We need to eventually go after people that hire illegals, both with fines and criminal charges.
This is where we should start. This will solve the problem much, much faster. Pass a law making the CEO and board of directors criminally liable if their company is hiring ANY undocumented workers without an e verify card.
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Huh. We actually agree on something.
Did your guy Obama give you the OK to go off-script?
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luvdemshrooms said: Huh. We actually agree on something.
Did your guy Obama give you the OK to go off-script?
Do you jerk off all day fantasizing about how others feel about Obama? I've said at least a dozen times I think Obama's a very weak president, I disagree with virtually everything he's done on the fiscal side, disagreed with all the key people he appointed, think he's a below average executive yet you push the same nonsense.
Some day, you'll wake up and become mature enough to understand that criticism of GOP Policies does not mean support of Obama. Right now, however, your maturity can't handle that possibility.
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Nope. I jerk off for other reasons.
I know what you claim, I merely think your full of shit.
And it's not your criticisms of GOP policy that lead me to think that. It's your eagerness to follow Dem policies.
And coming from the guy who thinks money equates to dick size, your maturity comment is .
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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qman said: We need to eventually go after people that hire illegals, both with fines and criminal charges.
This is where we should start. This will solve the problem much, much faster. Pass a law making the CEO and board of directors criminally liable if their company is hiring ANY undocumented workers without an e verify card.
Or the owner of a landscaping company or restaurant. Either way, it's a combination of all of these tactics (deportation, elimination of anchor babies, no more freebies) to get the illegals out of the country.
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Re: Anchor Baby [Re: qman]
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KauaiOrca said: Pass a law making the CEO and board of directors criminally liable if their company is hiring ANY undocumented workers without an e verify card.
Great idea...Give disgruntled workers the power to have the boss thrown in jail.
Any other brilliant ideas?
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Re: Anchor Baby [Re: Enlil]
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KauaiOrca said: Pass a law making the CEO and board of directors criminally liable if their company is hiring ANY undocumented workers without an e verify card.
Great idea...Give disgruntled workers the power to have the boss thrown in jail.
Any other brilliant ideas?
Exactly, that's the whole point. Even the playing field. Create a lot more accountability at the top.
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luvdemshrooms said: Nope. I jerk off for other reasons.
I know what you claim, I merely think your full of shit.
And it's not your criticisms of GOP policy that lead me to think that. It's your eagerness to follow Dem policies.
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And yet, you'll be hard pressed to come up with any "dem policies that I promote ... you will, no doubt, make some vague statement like ... "everything" or "you've supported all the dem policies" some nonsense like that. I do not see any democrat at all promoting what I believe would be the keys to creating a much better economic recovery. Not one.
Another swing and a miss on your part and I'm sorry my own economic success ruffles your feathers.
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Yeah, because injustice is justified if it's done justly.
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You mean besides your wealth tax? 
Odd, I seem to recall you wanting to bet you made more than me. Why am I not surprised that's your idea of my feathers being ruffled.
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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luvdemshrooms said: You mean besides your wealth tax? 
Odd, I seem to recall you wanting to bet you made more than me. Why am I not surprised that's your idea of my feathers being ruffled.

There's not a single democratic candidate proposing anything even close to my ideas on how to close the wealth gap. Not one. My plan revolves around a new corporate tax system to reward companies that voluntarily reduce the pay gap top to bottom in their companies. In addition, using the german system of giving labor board seats to balance decision making at the top. This is by far the two most important elements. What DEM is suggesting this?
Another swing and a miss from you.
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Taxing the rich is the main Democratic mantra.
I was right on target yet you'll never admit it.
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luvdemshrooms said: Taxing the rich is the main Democratic mantra.
I was right on target yet you'll never admit it.
My main idea LOWERS corporate taxes. As usual, you're pulling stuff outta your ass and nowhere near the truth. Show me one democrat that want to cut corporate taxes substantially as their primary tool to generate more growth and shrink the wealth gap simultaneously?
Another swing and a miss. Try again.
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Playing obtuse? I know the internet is difficult for you but...
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6) Every five years put out a 25% net worth tax on anyone with over 1 billion in net worth to close the deficit and pay down the debt. If they leave the US, they lose their citizenship, passport and ability to travel back to the US for 10 years.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22127980#22127980
That sure seems like taxing the rich to me.

Your undeserved arrogance gets you again.
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luvdemshrooms said: Playing obtuse? I know the internet is difficult for you but...
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6) Every five years put out a 25% net worth tax on anyone with over 1 billion in net worth to close the deficit and pay down the debt. If they leave the US, they lose their citizenship, passport and ability to travel back to the US for 10 years.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22127980#22127980
That sure seems like taxing the rich to me.

Your undeserved arrogance gets you again.
Here is the total point by point post you refer to:
1) Offer corporations a tax option to reduce their taxes by reducing the wealth gap. Cut corporate taxes in half for companies that cut the pay gap top to bottom to no more than 25X. 2) Eliminate all corporate welfare 3) Make it illegal for corporations to lobby the government in any way, shape or form including giving money to campaigns ... same for churches, unions and non-profits. 4) Maximum political contribution per year by anyone is $1,000 and that includes candidates 5) Force total and complete transparency of any agreements that any politician makes with anyone in exchange for campaign cash. Teethy jail time and big whistleblower incentives to out the truth. 6) Every five years put out a 25% net worth tax on anyone with over 1 billion in net worth to close the deficit and pay down the debt. If they leave the US, they lose their citizenship, passport and ability to travel back to the US for 10 years.
Show me any democrat that has ever proposed this combination of ideas? Just one. Anyone ever. You will, no doubt, lock in on #6 and, if you look closely, it is used ONLY to close the deficit and pay down the debt. It forces a lot of spending accountability because the wealthy will insist spending cuts happen or they have to pay for it and it applies to roughly 530 Americans total and it would have zero impact on the lifestyle of any of them.
As usual, you ignore the other 5 more important points that have nothing in common with what democrats are or ever have proposed.
Another swing and a miss, bud. You're just getting crushed again.
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Keep dreaming.
I said you were in favor of taxing the rich. The quote confirms it.
I can help your lack of spine. Thanks for failing so spectacularly. I expect no less.
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Having fun playing with mr big shot? I quit reading his posts
enlil >injustice is justified if it's done justly.
lol
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Keep dreaming.
I said you were in favor of taxing the rich. The quote confirms it.
I can help your lack of spine. Thanks for failing so spectacularly. I expect no less.
You are a crack up ... always quick to claim victory yet no one agrees with you. You're a jury of one with a real need to prove yourself right when you're obviously wrong.
My Plan is, overall, very conservative. Lowers taxes, cuts corporate welfare to zero, cuts corporate influence on our political process and forces the budget to get balanced.
You're wrong ... again.
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KauaiOrca said: You're wrong ... again.
So you're not in favor of a wealth tax on the rich?
Then who wrote this???
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6) Every five years put out a 25% net worth tax on anyone with over 1 billion in net worth to close the deficit and pay down the debt. If they leave the US, they lose their citizenship, passport and ability to travel back to the US for 10 years.
Oh wait... it's was you.
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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KauaiOrca said: You're wrong ... again.
So you're not in favor of a wealth tax on the rich?
Then who wrote this???
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6) Every five years put out a 25% net worth tax on anyone with over 1 billion in net worth to close the deficit and pay down the debt. If they leave the US, they lose their citizenship, passport and ability to travel back to the US for 10 years.
Oh wait... it's was you.
TOO FUNNY! You did exactly what I said you'd do. My lord, you're easy to read and so predictable. Completely ignoring the 5 other points. You're a joke.
And, the purpose of that tax is one thing only. To balance the budget and pay down debt. That, dumb ass, is an extremely conservative proposal.
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