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there are those who buy anew g6 every year.
at 60 million a pop... thats enough to give 3000 people a minimum wage job.
or 300 a job for 10 years.
yachts, houses... its all the same.
they have you brainwashed to believe that these people need to make hundreds of thousands of times minimum wage...
they dont.
its fucked up...
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Re: Anchor Baby [Re: rxb]
#22142878 - 08/25/15 08:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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they also have you brainwashed to believe that buying a g6, at 60 million is as good for the economy as giving 3000 people a minimum wage job (actually that would be 30k a year which is double min wage)...
buying a g6 isnt NEARLY as good for the economy as making a minimum wage job. and definately not as good as making a 30k a year job.
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Re: Anchor Baby [Re: rxb]
#22142894 - 08/25/15 08:10 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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rxb said: they also have you brainwashed to believe that buying a g6, at 60 million is as good for the economy as giving 3000 people a minimum wage job (actually that would be 30k a year which is double min wage)...
buying a g6 isnt NEARLY as good for the economy as making a minimum wage job. and definately not as good as making a 30k a year job.
The corporate wealth class wants enormous wealth for themselves and a low paid servant class to serve them at the cheapest possible labor prices.
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Re: Anchor Baby [Re: rxb]
#22142900 - 08/25/15 08:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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So if they left the money in the bank rather than buy some overpriced car the world would be better off? I never heard of a g6 and doubt its popular or that many are stupid enough to buy one. But if they do or if they want to set fire to their cash its their business.
You seem to want everyone with money to be santa claus. How much do you give away every year?
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i run a 501c3.... sooooo
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Stonehenge said: So if they left the money in the bank rather than buy some overpriced car the world would be better off? I never heard of a g6 and doubt its popular or that many are stupid enough to buy one. But if they do or if they want to set fire to their cash its their business.
You seem to want everyone with money to be santa claus. How much do you give away every year?
leaving money in the bank (your fallacious turn)instead of using it to create jobs(what i said)....
nice strawman...nice try.
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Due process through our judicial system. You have a habit of responding by asking more questions while not adding any input.
I think maybe you mistunderstand the Constitution. Due process isn't a duty of citizens, it's a limitation on government. People aren't required to do anything under the Constitution. There is only one part of the Constitution which limits the people's rights at all, and that is the 13th amendment.
Before you start talking about the Constitution, you should probably read it.
And the only reason I ask questions is to determine if you're ignorant or have some novel theory I hadn't heard of. Turns out it was the former in this case, but I like to give people the benefit of the doubt.
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Start with the gangs. I like this approach.
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Re: Anchor Baby [Re: rxb]
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>leaving money in the bank (your fallacious turn)instead of using it to create jobs(what i said)....
So if they start a company and make lots of money while employing many you are happy? No, then you want them to make min wage and give away the profits to the workers in your commie wet dream. You are never satisfied
How much do you give away every year?
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starting with gangs is great.
glad he has learned to qualify.
still dont believe he is electable. hilarious that he called bush out, seeing as trump himself is none too bright (just was born in a great position and has learned to get good advice)
he has hurt too many people, and he is too abrasive, he makes snap judgements like a kicked puppy, he has been emotionally charged.
i dont think he can get more than 35% of the vote
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Stonehenge said: >leaving money in the bank (your fallacious turn)instead of using it to create jobs(what i said)....
So if they start a company and make lots of money while employing many you are happy? No, then you want them to make min wage and give away the profits to the workers in your commie wet dream. You are never satisfied
How much do you give away every year?
i run a 501c3...which i started... i dont take a salary for doing so... so i give away quite a lot...just in the salary portion alone.
how much exactly isnt really important, because i dont think the ave joe is going to be giving away as much as i do, so im not the greatest test case
the point is, no one NEEDS to be giving away anything, we need to have a more normalized monitary system...
because you've only know THIS way... you dont see how else it could work, but it doesnt work like this in MANY other places... normalized economies have less poverty and crime better schools health and roads.
normalized economies can happen in ANY economic systems...ours is just WAAAAAAY out of balance. more so than most developed nations.
if it was balanced, only a few racist nutjobs would care about immigrants at all ... much less anchor babies.
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Re: Anchor Baby [Re: rxb]
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if it was balanced, only a few racist nutjobs would care about immigrants at all ... much less anchor babies.
Very well said. The success of the GOP is to convinced its puppies on a leash to believe that the lowest paid people in the economy are destroying America. It is truly the most ludicrous argument imaginable. Meanwhile the people at the top make 500X as much as the minimum wage employees that actually do the work that create the billions they split up for themselves.
The way profits are split-up is the problem. Everything else is much less important.
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Astral Pain said: Start with the gangs. I like this approach.
Donald Trump Confronted by Univision Jorge Ramos at Iowa Press Before Rally Speech
Not before getting tossed out.
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Priceless, Trump don't play no PC games.
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Re: Anchor Baby [Re: rxb]
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I couldn't hear a word ramos said but it was clear he was out of line and deserved to be ejected. Trump handled himself well there with the heckler. I don't watch tv so this is about the first I've seen of him in action. He is a smart man.
I used to watch Univision and Jorge ramos doing primer impacto, a news type program from the Hispanic point of view. Him and maria Salinas, as I recall. It was good practice on Spanish and some news from a different point of view. Also sabado gigante, but that is drifting off topic.
He handled himself well there, shut up the heckler without simply shouting him down or wimping out. Then when the guy went way over the top he let the sergeant at arms handle it. Mexico would put a ton of money into hitlery but they don't have it and she is on the way out anyway.
So you have a non profit and don't make a salary. You donate your multimillion dollar salary to the cause, that's nice.
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It certainly is unlawful presence and most just sneaked over
Parking improperly is illegal, but it is not a crime. It is a civil infraction.
As I recall from an admittedly cursory reading of the law, there are both civil and criminal provisions depending on what rule was broken.
About 40% of illegals here simply overstayed there visa and that is a civil issue, not a criminal one.
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Re: Anchor Baby [Re: Enlil]
#22143972 - 08/25/15 11:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Due process through our judicial system. You have a habit of responding by asking more questions while not adding any input.
I think maybe you mistunderstand the Constitution. Due process isn't a duty of citizens, it's a limitation on government. People aren't required to do anything under the Constitution. There is only one part of the Constitution which limits the people's rights at all, and that is the 13th amendment.
Before you start talking about the Constitution, you should probably read it.
And the only reason I ask questions is to determine if you're ignorant or have some novel theory I hadn't heard of. Turns out it was the former in this case, but I like to give people the benefit of the doubt.
My point was the immigrant didn't go through the necessary process to become a citizen as apposed to having a baby in an attempt for citizenship. You seem angry for some reason and I'm not sure why.
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So immigrants figured out a way to game the system...so what?
That's human nature, we figure out what the rules are and then see how we can get what we want without having to follow the rules we don't like.
From kids and adults cheating on tests because they don't want to actually learn the information...or drug tests because they want the job but don't want to stop doing drugs...
To people that download movies illegally on the internet and say "Well the company that made this movie has so much money anyway, I don't see any harm in watching it for free."
An immigrant says "Gee, I could wait to see if I can get citizenship legally...or I can have a baby in America and become a citizen instantly. One I can control, the other I can't." (Except this would probably be said in Spanish)
Bottom line is people will game the system. I guess this makes some people mad because there's nothing for them to gain when someone else games the system.
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Astral Pain said: You seem angry for some reason and I'm not sure why.
Probaby because you are projecting. I don't get angry over internet debates.
It's a bit of a hyperbole to equate every shortcut someone takes with a disregard for the Constitution, don't you think?
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Re: Anchor Baby [Re: Diploid]
#22144866 - 08/26/15 08:06 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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>About 40% of illegels here simply overstaied there visa and that is a civil issue, not a criminal one.
Got any link to support that? This is what enlil does all the time, makes up some statistic based on his say so.
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http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2013/sep/06/john-carter/john-carter-claim-40-percent-nations-illegal-resid/
Our ruling
Carter said about 40 percent of U.S. illegal immigrants "came in on an airplane, with a legal visa, and just overstayed their visa and have never gone home."
That percentage aligns with an oft-repeated estimate, supported by a 2006 report by the Pew Hispanic Center, of the share of unauthorized residents who have overstayed visas. Many presumably arrived by plane, though we found no such breakdown.
And the percentage could be off--too high or even too low. Homeland Security’s chief testified that 40 percent might be too high, while another expert told us there may now be more visitors who overstay. A precise up-to-date calculation doesn't seem to exist.
We rate this claim, which relies on a seven-year-old estimate and could have used clarification about not all visitors coming by airplane, as Mostly True.
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