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Anchor Baby
#22129914 - 08/23/15 08:21 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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What exactly is wrong with that simple, accurate phrase that everyone knows what it means? Why are politicians insisting on silliness like "a person born in the US whose foreign parants gave birth here" (16 syllables) while dissing four accurate, concise syllables that get the job done?
My English teachers taught me that brevety furthers comprehension and that is good advice.
Americans are becoming like muslims who love to search out indignities to twist their panties in a bunch over.
Talk substance and drop the symantic noise already. Geez.
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Re: Anchor Baby [Re: Diploid]
#22129944 - 08/23/15 08:34 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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im not sure why these idiots have an issue with immigration in general.
morons think every foreigner is a criminal.
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Re: Anchor Baby [Re: rxb]
#22130091 - 08/23/15 09:20 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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rxb said: im not sure why these idiots have an issue with immigration in general.
morons think every foreigner is a criminal.
These "idiots" realize that these people that have entered this country illegally have caused a lot of economic and cultural damage to the US population.
BTW, we also have a huge criminal issue with many of these illegals, they all are going to be deported.
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Re: Anchor Baby [Re: Diploid]
#22130154 - 08/23/15 09:40 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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For the record, I am NOT against immigration. I am an immigrant myself as is most everybody else here who is not a Native American.
But I also think it's unfair for somebody to cut to the front of the line while other people wait their turn to come into the country legally. That's how my parents came here, and I think other immigrants should follow the rules too.
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Re: Anchor Baby [Re: qman]
#22130350 - 08/23/15 10:42 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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rxb said: im not sure why these idiots have an issue with immigration in general.
morons think every foreigner is a criminal.
These "idiots" realize that these people that have entered this country illegally have caused a lot of economic and cultural damage to the US population.
BTW, we also have a huge criminal issue with many of these illegals, they all are going to be deported.
anchor babies aren't illegal, what a stupid thing to say.
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Re: Anchor Baby [Re: rxb]
#22130369 - 08/23/15 10:47 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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qman:
what percentage of crime in the us is caused by illegal immigrants if we did not count the presence of illegal immigrants as a crime.
1) i bet you have an inflated guess
2) i bet you dont know.
3) i bet you cant find a reasonable statistic
4) i bet if you happen to find stats THAT ARENT COOKED, its a REALLY LOW NUMBER
5) if you learned to think for yourself, you wouldnt care.
6) its retarded how much you let the talking heads influence your mind this isnt even a problem, its one invented to distract stupid people from whats going on in the world.
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Re: Anchor Baby [Re: rxb]
#22130471 - 08/23/15 11:18 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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rxb said:
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qman said:
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rxb said: im not sure why these idiots have an issue with immigration in general.
morons think every foreigner is a criminal.
These "idiots" realize that these people that have entered this country illegally have caused a lot of economic and cultural damage to the US population.
BTW, we also have a huge criminal issue with many of these illegals, they all are going to be deported.
anchor babies aren't illegal, what a stupid thing to say.
There's plenty of legal scholars who disagree.
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Re: Anchor Baby [Re: rxb]
#22130477 - 08/23/15 11:20 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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rxb said: qman:
what percentage of crime in the us is caused by illegal immigrants if we did not count the presence of illegal immigrants as a crime.
1) i bet you have an inflated guess
2) i bet you dont know.
3) i bet you cant find a reasonable statistic
4) i bet if you happen to find stats THAT ARENT COOKED, its a REALLY LOW NUMBER
5) if you learned to think for yourself, you wouldnt care.
6) its retarded how much you let the talking heads influence your mind this isnt even a problem, its one invented to distract stupid people from whats going on in the world.
If you had a clue you would realize that I have been recommending the deportation of illegals years before it come popular in the MSM, you're fucking clueless.
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Re: Anchor Baby [Re: qman] 1
#22130569 - 08/23/15 11:50 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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its been popular in the MSM for about 25 years
so, i'd have a hard time following you that long...but im thinking you have a source outside yourself where you gain your information, because otheriwise you should work for the news networks or a radio show because clearly if you arent borrowing from them, they are borrowing from you.
so you should go get rich for being the political genious you are.
but since your thoughts arent original.
please get a clue.
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Re: Anchor Baby [Re: qman]
#22130942 - 08/23/15 01:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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There's plenty of legal scholars who disagree.
Anyone born here is a citizen. So says the Constitution in clear language, and I'm quite sure no legal opinion from a scholar can change that.
I don't much like it, but the constitution is not a buffet. You can't pick and choose which parts don't apply when they become inconvenient.
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Re: Anchor Baby [Re: Diploid] 1
#22131043 - 08/23/15 02:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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If your mother is illegal you're born illegal. The 14th amendment does not give birthright citizenship as many in the media are claiming.
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Senator Jacob Howard, the author of the citizenship clause of the Fourteenth Amendment He told us what he meant. He defined who would fall within the ‘jurisdiction of the United States.
“Every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, [meaning the states – their jurisdiction] is, by virtue of natural law and national law, a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States. This has long been a great issue in the jurisprudence and legislation of this country.’ -Senator Jacob Howard, May 30, 1866
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Re: Anchor Baby [Re: rxb]
#22131136 - 08/23/15 02:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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rxb said: im not sure why these idiots have an issue with immigration in general.
morons think every foreigner is a criminal.
Every illegal immigrant is a criminal.
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This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.
His intent was to exclude foreign DIPLOMATIC staff who have babies here. This is patently obvious from the text. It also makes sense. Foreign diplomatic staff has always been a special case that doesn't apply to ordinary people just like diplomatic immunity doesn't apply to ordinary people.
This is the whole point of adding the "every other class of persons" clause: to clearly say that if you are born here not of diplomats, you are a citizen, period. If that were not his intent, then that clause would not be unnecessary.
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rxb said: im not sure why these idiots have an issue with immigration in general.
morons think every foreigner is a criminal.
Every illegal immigrant is a criminal.
yes, i agree, and nothing i said says otherwise. if you think it does, you are a moron.
being an illegal alien, in my opinion is the same kind of criminal behavior as consuming psychedelic mushrooms, it doesnt hurt anyone, and frankly shouldnt even be illegal, but doing it makes you a criminal.
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Astral Pain said: Senator Jacob Howard, the author of the citizenship clause of the Fourteenth Amendment He told us what he meant. He defined who would fall within the ‘jurisdiction of the United States.
“Every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, [meaning the states – their jurisdiction] is, by virtue of natural law and national law, a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States. This has long been a great issue in the jurisprudence and legislation of this country.’ -Senator Jacob Howard, May 30, 1866
United_States_v._Wong_Kim_Ark
seems like you are wrong
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Re: Anchor Baby [Re: rxb]
#22131604 - 08/23/15 04:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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rxb said:
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rxb said: im not sure why these idiots have an issue with immigration in general.
morons think every foreigner is a criminal.
Every illegal immigrant is a criminal.
yes, i agree, and nothing i said says otherwise. if you think it does, you are a moron.
being an illegal alien, in my opinion is the same kind of criminal behavior as consuming psychedelic mushrooms, it doesnt hurt anyone, and frankly shouldnt even be illegal, but doing it makes you a criminal.
If you think your opinion matters, you are a moron.
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Re: Anchor Baby [Re: rxb]
#22131795 - 08/23/15 04:50 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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rxb said:
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Sun King said:
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rxb said: im not sure why these idiots have an issue with immigration in general.
morons think every foreigner is a criminal.
Every illegal immigrant is a criminal.
yes, i agree, and nothing i said says otherwise. if you think it does, you are a moron.
being an illegal alien, in my opinion is the same kind of criminal behavior as consuming psychedelic mushrooms, it doesnt hurt anyone, and frankly shouldnt even be illegal, but doing it makes you a criminal.
"it doesn't hurt anyone"
It hurts the US workers and the culture. You clearly have no economic study,
Edited by Prisoner#1 (08/23/15 05:39 PM)
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Re: Anchor Baby [Re: qman]
#22132334 - 08/23/15 06:40 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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it doesnt hurt workers as much as the people nearly as much as the ultra rich
and if you dont believe so
1) you dont understand econ
2) you have been duped
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Re: Anchor Baby [Re: rxb]
#22132469 - 08/23/15 07:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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seems like you are wrong
Seems like you are clueless.
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United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898), is a United States Supreme Court case in which the Court ruled that a child born in the United States of Chinese citizens, who had at the time a permanent domicile and residence in the United States and who were carrying on business there other than for the Chinese government, automatically became a U.S. citizen.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Wong_Kim_Ark
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