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Re: Golden bits on my mushroom cake.... [Re: Ghost_in_shell]
    #22130410 - 08/23/15 11:03 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I did a real good job of sterilising, maybe too much water? Can too much water contaminate it?...
All the info seems to be about blue mold. 2 weeks these looked good for, then these golden bits appeared 2 days ago.


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Re: Golden bits on my mushroom cake.... [Re: Ghost_in_shell]
    #22130415 - 08/23/15 11:05 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

hmm, never heard of or seen blue mold myself :shrug:

i'm not only talking about the discoloration but also the texture of your myc.
it grows in small circles and meets a contaminant and sets up a wall.


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Re: Golden bits on my mushroom cake.... [Re: Ghost_in_shell]
    #22130416 - 08/23/15 11:06 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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If you see any pins during the consolidation period, birth it immediately. Dunk and roll everytime, they will pin better with the verm coating the surface of the cake.




And still spray the humidity chamber?
Also, I heard that pins are a good sign to see, just before birthing?



You can spray the sides of the SGFC, but make sure your perlite is damp and doesn't dry out, or your cakes will!!

Yes invitro pins are a good sign, but you don't have to wait for them to birth the cake. After the one week consolidation period, birth the cake and wait for it to fruit in your SGFC.


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Re: Golden bits on my mushroom cake.... [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #22130418 - 08/23/15 11:07 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

there's no point in spraying the walls of your FC, they dont grow mushrooms the cakes/substrate does.

if it starts pinning before full colonization looking like this you can be sure you have contams.


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Re: Golden bits on my mushroom cake.... [Re: Ghost_in_shell]
    #22130425 - 08/23/15 11:09 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I heard heat can create yellow bits in your jar...
I honestly think it could be ok.
There no point in chucking it, might as well at least try growing it...
If when I birth it, it smells funny, I will chuck it.
Don't understand why for two weeks they look great then all of a sudden this, unless the water got trapped in there too much, because not enough airing?


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Re: Golden bits on my mushroom cake.... [Re: Ghost_in_shell]
    #22130437 - 08/23/15 11:12 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

they probably didnt look that great, they just looked white and it can be hard to distunguish healthy white from bad white when you're new.
Do as you want, but as I said dont get your hopes up and rely solely on these cakes, start a new batch.


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Re: Golden bits on my mushroom cake.... [Re: spacechildo]
    #22130438 - 08/23/15 11:12 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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hmm, never heard of or seen blue mold myself :shrug:

i'm not only talking about the discoloration but also the texture of your myc.
it grows in small circles and meets a contaminant and sets up a wall.



You have never heard to chuck away jars/cakes that grow green, blue mold?
Looks like mold you get on out of date food.


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Re: Golden bits on my mushroom cake.... [Re: Ghost_in_shell]
    #22130445 - 08/23/15 11:14 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

green yes, blue no.


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Re: Golden bits on my mushroom cake.... [Re: spacechildo]
    #22130456 - 08/23/15 11:15 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

http://www.fungifun.org/English/Pftek

If you can, please look at this pf tek. It says to wait for pins to grow, then birth cake.
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there's no point in spraying the walls of your FC, they dont grow mushrooms the cakes/substrate does.

if it starts pinning before full colonization looking like this you can be sure you have contams.




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Re: Golden bits on my mushroom cake.... [Re: Ghost_in_shell]
    #22130463 - 08/23/15 11:17 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I've seen that tek, its OK but rather follow www.mushroomvideos.com
incubators are pretty much useless, if you're cold just heat a room.

if it says to wait for pins its a bit dumber than I remembered.
if you want your cakes to fruit you give them fruiting conditions :cookiemonster:


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Re: Golden bits on my mushroom cake.... [Re: spacechildo]
    #22130472 - 08/23/15 11:18 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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green yes, blue no.



Your just being pedantic now.
And yes will start a new batch as well. Thanks


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    #22130480 - 08/23/15 11:21 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

huh?

when new people come here talking about "blue mold" its bruising 99% of the time.
when people come here with green bruising, its mold 99% of the time!


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Re: Golden bits on my mushroom cake.... [Re: spacechildo]
    #22130498 - 08/23/15 11:27 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:whathesaid:


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Re: Golden bits on my mushroom cake.... [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #22130518 - 08/23/15 11:36 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Why is it so important to keep mushrooms sterile when they grow out doors and on shit? Lol.


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Re: Golden bits on my mushroom cake.... [Re: Ghost_in_shell]
    #22130553 - 08/23/15 11:47 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Why is it so important to keep mushrooms sterile when they grow out doors and on shit? Lol.



here is a outdoor pattie which does have other bacteria competing in it and not in the perfect environment

and here is a clean tub provide with a nice environment




Its not like they cant grow in competition environments they just dont do well


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Re: Golden bits on my mushroom cake.... [Re: mrbart4444]
    #22130575 - 08/23/15 11:52 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Ahhh point taken lol. So if I do have some kind of contamination but my shrooms beat it, will these shrooms be ok to eat? I know if it's GREEN mold they will have to be chucked. How will I know if my shrooms are not safe to eat?...
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Why is it so important to keep mushrooms sterile when they grow out doors and on shit? Lol.



here is a outdoor pattie which does have other bacteria competing in it and not in the perfect environment

and here is a clean tub provide with a nice environment




Its not like they cant grow in competition environments they just dont do well




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Re: Golden bits on my mushroom cake.... [Re: mrbart4444]
    #22130583 - 08/23/15 11:54 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Ghost_in_shell said:
Why is it so important to keep mushrooms sterile when they grow out doors and on shit? Lol.



here is a outdoor pattie which does have other bacteria competing in it and not in the perfect environment

and here is a clean tub provide with a nice environment




Its not like they cant grow in competition environments they just dont do well





Btw, what is the stuff that look like bubble bath in the clean environment pic?


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Re: Golden bits on my mushroom cake.... [Re: Ghost_in_shell]
    #22130585 - 08/23/15 11:55 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

if they turn to mush thats pretty then i wouldn't eat them

If your referring to the poly fill its to regulate fresh air exchange but if you mean the shiny bits in the middle that moister reflecting the flash of the camera. 


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Re: Golden bits on my mushroom cake.... [Re: mrbart4444]
    #22130595 - 08/23/15 11:58 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

all fruits outside are grown on contaminated substrates but you dont go searching for the field the apples you bought grew in.

consider it's food and use your best judgement. even if the mushrooms are soggy you can stilldry them and eat just fine.

mycel wont beat contams tho, but you can still get mushrooms. its just not worth having contaminated subs spreading spores all over your grow space.


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Re: Golden bits on my mushroom cake.... [Re: mrbart4444]
    #22130601 - 08/23/15 11:59 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Polly fill :smile:
What do u mean turn to mush?


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