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9/11 every second
    #22129496 - 08/23/15 02:47 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

2,977 people were killed in the 9/11 attacks. 3,000 animals die every second in slaughterhouses around the world.

"Over 56 BILLION farmed animals are killed every year by humans. More than 3,000 animals die every second in slaughterhouses around the world. These shocking figures do not even include fish and other sea creatures whose deaths are so great they are only measured in tonnes. "-- http://www.animalequality.net/food

Current world population: (human) ~7.36 billion

If you killed every human in the world 7 times over, that's how many animals are killed every year.


"Assuming that we start counting from about 50,000 B.C., the time when modern Homo sapiens appeared on the earth (and not from 700,000 B.C. when the ancestors of Homo sapiens appeared, or several million years ago when hominids were present), taking into account that all population data are a rough estimate, and assuming a constant growth rate applied to each period up to modern times, it has been estimated that a total of approximately 106 billion people have been born since the dawn of the human species, making the population currently alive roughly 6% of all people who have ever lived on planet Earth." --  http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/

If you killed every single human born from the dawn of time until now, it would equal approximately the number of animals killed every 2 years.


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Re: 9/11 every second [Re: endogenous] * 3
    #22129504 - 08/23/15 02:53 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

We should kill them faster. Then delicious meat would be cheaper.


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Re: 9/11 every second [Re: endogenous]
    #22129511 - 08/23/15 03:00 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I see your point, but what are you trying to achieve with this post? Animals are delicious + people need to eat = people kill animals.
Lots of people + needing to eat multiple times a day = people need to kill more animals then there are people to keep up.

Sure we could eat plants exclusively, but why? The simple fact is if we didn't kill off a lot of these animals they would suffer from overpopulation which would in turn damage the ecosystem so....

As long as we aren't making any species go extinct I don't see an issue here.


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Re: 9/11 every second [Re: Dr.Satan]
    #22129531 - 08/23/15 03:18 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I see your point, but what are you trying to achieve with this post? Animals are delicious + people need to eat = people kill animals.



With this line of reasoning, cannibalism is ok.


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Re: 9/11 every second [Re: endogenous] * 1
    #22129533 - 08/23/15 03:23 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

You kill plants to eat them. With that line of reasoning, killing off every plant on the face of the planet is ok.

Ridiculous right? Yeah, that's how ridiculous you sound.


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Re: 9/11 every second [Re: endogenous]
    #22129536 - 08/23/15 03:25 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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If you killed every human in the world 7 times over, that's how many animals are killed every year.







Thats not that bad only 7 animals each a year. I bet if you eat a lot of small animals like chicken its much higher.


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Re: 9/11 every second [Re: endogenous]
    #22129537 - 08/23/15 03:28 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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2,977 people were killed in the 9/11 attacks. 3,000 animals die every second in slaughterhouses around the world.

"Over 56 BILLION farmed animals are killed every year by humans. More than 3,000 animals die every second in slaughterhouses around the world. These shocking figures do not even include fish and other sea creatures whose deaths are so great they are only measured in tonnes. "-- http://www.animalequality.net/food

Current world population: (human) ~7.36 billion

If you killed every human in the world 7 times over, that's how many animals are killed every year.


"Assuming that we start counting from about 50,000 B.C., the time when modern Homo sapiens appeared on the earth (and not from 700,000 B.C. when the ancestors of Homo sapiens appeared, or several million years ago when hominids were present), taking into account that all population data are a rough estimate, and assuming a constant growth rate applied to each period up to modern times, it has been estimated that a total of approximately 106 billion people have been born since the dawn of the human species, making the population currently alive roughly 6% of all people who have ever lived on planet Earth." --  http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/

If you killed every single human born from the dawn of time until now, it would equal approximately the number of animals killed every 2 years.





So what you are saying is....start eating people, we are wasting meat.


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Re: 9/11 every second [Re: endogenous] * 2
    #22129539 - 08/23/15 03:29 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

It's how nature works.. go yell at God everytime you turn on the Discovery channel and a pride of lions are tearing a cape buffalo apart and then start to eat it before it's dead, or when a pack of wolves rip apart a fox.  Or when your friendly putty tat kills a bird, only to walk away from it to let it rot in the sun.

You think you're above the law?  Son, you're in for a shocker.. this isn't the wide world of Disney..


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Re: 9/11 every second [Re: Amanita86]
    #22129554 - 08/23/15 03:43 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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It's how nature works.. go yell at God everytime you turn on the Discovery channel and a pride of lions are tearing a cape buffalo apart and then start to eat it before it's dead, or when a pack of wolves rip apart a fox.  Or when your friendly putty tat kills a bird, only to walk away from it to let it rot in the sun.




Or when the nazis gassed millions of "Jews". Well, that's just the way the world works right? If the animals do it -- it's ok for humans to do it.

To Hitler, anyone who wasn't an "Aryan" was an "animal". To the founders of the U.S., humans with black skin were "animals" and it was ok to kill them.

Might does not make right.

"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."


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Re: 9/11 every second [Re: endogenous]
    #22129563 - 08/23/15 03:53 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

See that right there tells me you're so far out of the realm of reality...

You're talking about nature.. pump your vegitarian shit at a carnivore, let me know where that get's you..

Here's some depth for you, some might call it contradicting, but both sides of the equasion are true..

Hitler's not how the world "works", it's an example of how the world 'gets' "worked".. but check it out, last time I checked us humans are infact primates.. ever study primates?

Primates are of nature.. within the whole.. so yes, Hitler is an example of how the world works...

But a different example, than one that brings light to how animals ingest food, and keep that balance in working effect..

The fact you would compare those two very different examples as if their somehow one and the same, lets me know that you might want to hit the drawing board once more, and stock up on your facts before heading to the megaphone, with your findings (ideals)


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Re: 9/11 every second [Re: Dr.Satan]
    #22129565 - 08/23/15 03:54 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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The simple fact is if we didn't kill off a lot of these animals they would suffer from overpopulation which would in turn damage the ecosystem so....




that is complete redonkulousness..
u should be ashamed of yourself


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Re: 9/11 every second [Re: endogenous]
    #22129567 - 08/23/15 03:56 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Amanita86 said:
It's how nature works.. go yell at God everytime you turn on the Discovery channel and a pride of lions are tearing a cape buffalo apart and then start to eat it before it's dead, or when a pack of wolves rip apart a fox.  Or when your friendly putty tat kills a bird, only to walk away from it to let it rot in the sun.




Or when the nazis gassed millions of "Jews". Well, that's just the way the world works right? If the animals do it -- it's ok for humans to do it.

To Hitler, anyone who wasn't an "Aryan" was an "animal". To the founders of the U.S., humans with black skin were "animals" and it was ok to kill them.

Might does not make right.

"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."



You've got to be a troll. If you're not, you should be cleansed from the gene pool immediately.

Your arguments are absolutely absurd.


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Re: 9/11 every second [Re: mindbodysoul]
    #22129571 - 08/23/15 04:02 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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mindbodysoul said:
Quote:

Dr.Satan said:
The simple fact is if we didn't kill off a lot of these animals they would suffer from overpopulation which would in turn damage the ecosystem so....




that is complete redonkulousness..
u should be ashamed of yourself



No, actually it's not.  Anyone who's spent more time outside than in a man made dwelling has most likely seen personally the effect of overpopulation in some sector of the animal kingdom..  face it man, not everything was meant to see old age... it's just the way it is.. yell at God.

"Food for the stomach, stomach for the food"..

Humans are without a doubt the main target in this overpopulation factor now, so whether right or wrong brace yourself.. and teach your kids to do the same.


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Re: 9/11 every second [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22129573 - 08/23/15 04:03 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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You've got to be a troll. If you're not, you should be cleansed from the gene pool immediately.

Your arguments are absolutely absurd.



Genetic cleansing eh?

You're sounding more like Hitler by the minute.


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Re: 9/11 every second [Re: endogenous]
    #22129577 - 08/23/15 04:08 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Again another absurd leap to justify your ridiculous stance. When did I ever say your race should be removed? No I'm speaking entirely about you. You should not be allowed to spread your genes. I'm the farthest thing from Hitler you can get to, aside from the hippie all peace PC bullshit. I'm not deciding an entire race is inferior and should be cleansed. I'm doing it on a case by case basis.


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Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


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Re: 9/11 every second [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22129588 - 08/23/15 04:19 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I'm not deciding an entire race is inferior and should be cleansed. I'm doing it on a case by case basis.



Oh -- I see -- not Hitler at all. 

My man -- you're sick. You need help.


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Re: 9/11 every second [Re: endogenous]
    #22129601 - 08/23/15 04:33 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

So what exactly is your problem with eating animals? I don't want to hear the ignorant "because it's wrong" bullshit either. I want an articulate answer as to why you think people should stop killing animals to eat. How will this have a positive effect on the world?


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Re: 9/11 every second [Re: endogenous]
    #22129604 - 08/23/15 04:37 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yep, I'm sick. Seen the second season of Hannibal? I'd like to make you eat yourself. I don't have much medical expertise, but I'm sure I could manage.
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So what exactly is your problem with eating animals? I don't want to hear the ignorant "because it's wrong" bullshit either. I want an articulate answer as to why you think people should stop killing animals to eat. How will this have a positive effect on the world?



We shouldn't. We evolved to be omnivores. Omnivore doesn't mean either or, it means both.* This displeases me. I'd actually prefer to be built to live on only meat.

Before someone goes down that road, yes you will find places that say it means either. This is incorrect. Our bodies are "built around the idea" of consuming both. We lack the specializations of both carnivores and herbivores. We may be smart enough to overcome this through other means, but in general, omnivore means both.


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With my face against the floor I can’t see who knocked me out of the way.
I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


You can't wake up, this is not a dream. You're part of a machine, you are not a human being
With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline


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Re: 9/11 every second [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22129608 - 08/23/15 04:44 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Yep, I'm sick. Seen the second season of Hannibal? I'd like to make you eat yourself. I don't have much medical expertise, but I'm sure I could manage.
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So what exactly is your problem with eating animals? I don't want to hear the ignorant "because it's wrong" bullshit either. I want an articulate answer as to why you think people should stop killing animals to eat. How will this have a positive effect on the world?



We shouldn't. We evolved to be omnivores. Omnivore doesn't mean either or, it means both. This displeases me. I'd actually prefer to be built to live on only meat.




I'm just trying to see if he can even come up with a legitimate answer. He seems like one of those naive people who think eating salads instead of meat some how makes him a better person then us :lol: Like the biggest problem on earth is the fact we eat too many animals, what a heap of shit. If he wants to go all hippy on us at least talk about a REAL issue like pollution or something fuck sakes.


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Re: 9/11 every second [Re: Dr.Satan]
    #22129611 - 08/23/15 04:48 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

He's not going to give a rational argument. Look at how things fucking progressed from his first post and his second post. You trying to extend the olive branch somehow translated into you saying cannibalism is okay. The fuck. Dude's either a straight up troll or is so far beyond a rational thought he should be in a straight jacket being fed jello after taking his pills.


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I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


You can't wake up, this is not a dream. You're part of a machine, you are not a human being
With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline


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