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Got a little lye in my DMT extraction, is re-x necessary?
    #22129236 - 08/22/15 11:57 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

By little I mean drops in a few of the many pulls. I've smoked it a number of times with no ill effects or harshness. But I know for certain some of the basic soup got into the mix.

I've used the search engine relentlessy and can't find much. From what I have found, NaOH doesn't evaporate at temperatures used to smoke DMT. However, particles can go into the smoke. My question, is this really dangerous and what kind of danger is there? Is this "go to the hospital" or just "feels really harsh, not good for you" kind of danger?

I got 2 grams in total and really don't want to do a re-x. I don't like the idea of heating solvents that emit carcinogenic fumes and are extremely flammable. If I HAVE to do a re-x for it to be safe, I will most likely toss the DMT and call it a loss as I also don't like the idea of something that can kill me or make me very sick. Are there any simple teks on re-x out there? Preferably with pictures? I've tried searching and it all seems so confusing, they're all so different from each other.


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Re: Got a little lye in my DMT extraction, is re-x necessary? [Re: Lyghtsout]
    #22129257 - 08/23/15 12:12 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

A quick search will say that while lye doesn't burn/vaporize at the temps usually used for the DMT, it's still possible for particles of it to be inhaled, and can lead to chemical burns.

:shrug:

Hard to say if it would be hospital worthy. I think it would depend on just how much got into the final product. It would probably range from just being harsh, to needing medical treatment over it. Lye is a highly caustic substance, will it kill you? Probably not, but it's definitely not something you want to be inhaling in any quantity.

The first bit I Googled, the rest is just common sense. Personally, I subscribe to better safe than sorry philosophy. So figure out how to clean out the lye out or just toss the product is what I'd do.


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Re: Got a little lye in my DMT extraction, is re-x necessary? [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22129338 - 08/23/15 01:08 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I'm really looking for a straightforward re-x tek the simpler the better. I've done a lot of searching and it's harder to find then I thought it would be.

From what I understand all I essentially need to do is mix a heated solvent with DMT to get the gunk to fall to the bottom at which point I can decant with either pouring off the top or with a pipette.

My plan is to get two graduated cylinders...



Put the solvent in one, heat it in hot water, pour it in the other cylinder with the DMT already in it. When the two layers separate decant the top layer.

My question, what's the optimal temperature and quantity of the solvent? I plan on getting a thermometer so I can measure the temperature of the solvent before adding. Also, does this seem like it would work?

Thank you!


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Re: Got a little lye in my DMT extraction, is re-x necessary? [Re: Lyghtsout]
    #22129351 - 08/23/15 01:17 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

You won't find a tek;you're on the right track! Def need to re-ex. Do you have sodium bicarb/washing salts, too?


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Re: Got a little lye in my DMT extraction, is re-x necessary? [Re: Lyghtsout] * 1
    #22129369 - 08/23/15 01:28 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I wish I could help, but I've never extracted DMT and don't even deal in chemistry really. I know the basics and understand the theory, but beyond the rudimentary portion of it, I know nothing.

I don't know what processes would need to be used, but my gut on something like this would tell me in theory all you need to do is return to the step before (maybe even the one before that depending on all the processes involved) you separate/extract what you want from the lye. Then follow the tek over again to the end product. In theory that should get rid of the lye.

In practice I have no idea how reliable or feasible this would even be. As I said, I really don't know what I'm doing when it comes to this shit, so you should really be sure of what needs to be done. But maybe it could offer some kind of insight that might click for you. :shrug: Shot in the dark but it never really hurts to get some outside perspective.

Hell everything I just said might've even been what you are already talking about.


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Re: Got a little lye in my DMT extraction, is re-x necessary? [Re: Lyghtsout]
    #22129374 - 08/23/15 01:31 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

You're way overthinking it though...

I would do the hot water bath naptha in a sealable jar, stir in dmt, allow to disolve completely, then remove from heat and let cool to room temp. If anything precipitates, you need more naptha.

Then, go to damn near any store, pick up sodium bicarb, and either look up Vovin's tek (RE: sodium bicarb wash), or inquire further. You can then separate it however you separated it from the basic layer in the first place.


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Re: Got a little lye in my DMT extraction, is re-x necessary? [Re: Giftofdeprivation]
    #22129378 - 08/23/15 01:33 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Not surprising. I tend to make things difficult. :lol:


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Re: Got a little lye in my DMT extraction, is re-x necessary? [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22129384 - 08/23/15 01:36 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Reply fail, sir. I meant OP, with the graduated cylinders, temp specifics, and whatnot. I hadn't read your reply, yet :P

Haha, no you are exactly right, lol. I am just telling him to add naptha and read the end steps of Vovin's tek :lol::lol::lol:


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Re: Got a little lye in my DMT extraction, is re-x necessary? [Re: Giftofdeprivation]
    #22129394 - 08/23/15 01:44 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I'm honestly surprised I was even close to what needs to be done.

But if I were in his shoes, that's what I'd do. Dissolve the DMT again and repeat the separation process while paying closer attention and then just do what you'd normally do from that step forward.

I just didn't know if this was even feasible to do. The only real variable I see is what it'd take to re-dissolve the DMT.


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Re: Got a little lye in my DMT extraction, is re-x necessary? [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22129417 - 08/23/15 01:55 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Haha, shrooms make you smarter! Actually, now that I think about it, he probably never did a wash to begin with, if there is lye. I think it's impossible not to have lye, so I always wash, myself.

Actually, when you put it like that, he could just add it to his next pull, like nothing happened. Lol

Good point about solvent, naptha's just vovin. ANY solvent can be used (except IPA... I did that once. Smh)

Oh, and OP, the chemistry and pharmacology section is a better area to post this!!! We read there too and things won't go off topic!


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Re: Got a little lye in my DMT extraction, is re-x necessary? [Re: Giftofdeprivation]
    #22129433 - 08/23/15 02:04 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but are you saying I can just add the extracted DMT with the lye in it back into the jar that I extracted from (which still contains the original water/mimosa/lye) and just pull it again being more cautious that I decant just the naphtha?

Seems genius! I don't really care about it being more pure then it is, I just want the lye out of it.


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Re: Got a little lye in my DMT extraction, is re-x necessary? [Re: Lyghtsout]
    #22129451 - 08/23/15 02:17 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I would probably make sure it is in liquid form first, but even that may be overkill. Yeah, that'll totally work!

I personally don't think it is possible to pull naptha without lye particles getting agitated into the mix, so I always freeze precip/sodium bicarb wash. Even then, I sometimes see slight yellowing in my product, but never red/brown.

Whatever works for you though, man! Stay safe!


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Re: Got a little lye in my DMT extraction, is re-x necessary? [Re: Lyghtsout]
    #22130985 - 08/23/15 01:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Haha, I am seeing all your questions on the nexus too, glad you are finding good advice there. There's REALLY not much here in terms of knowledgeable extractors!

I'll see you at the Nexus!


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Re: Got a little lye in my DMT extraction, is re-x necessary? [Re: Giftofdeprivation] * 1
    #22130994 - 08/23/15 01:45 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I think someone already said this, but I'd get it out. Dissolve it in alcohol and baster that crap out, and yeah the Nexus will know best :thumbup:


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Re: Got a little lye in my DMT extraction, is re-x necessary? [Re: pfxtc] * 1
    #22131050 - 08/23/15 02:02 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Dude Lye is a pretty toxic and nasty substance. That's the shit people use to cook meth with. I would not take the chance.


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Re: Got a little lye in my DMT extraction, is re-x necessary? [Re: Janky Tits]
    #22131074 - 08/23/15 02:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Xplicit RelapzZ said:
Dude Lye is a pretty toxic and nasty substance. That's the shit people use to cook meth with. I would not take the chance.




It's also what people use to extract DMT with :lol: (usually).


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Young male going by the name "Bassfreak" entered Worcester General complaining of a sharp pain in his buttock region after attending EDM event. Attending physician considered a possible diagnosis of acute rave anus, but upon further investigation it was determined there was nothing cute about patient's anus.

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Re: Got a little lye in my DMT extraction, is re-x necessary? [Re: pfxtc]
    #22131080 - 08/23/15 02:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Sadly that is true :/

The difference between DMT and meth is that I smoke DMT once in a blue moon and meth users get addicted to it really quickly and I've never smoked meth before nor do I plan too.


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Re: Got a little lye in my DMT extraction, is re-x necessary? [Re: Janky Tits]
    #22131092 - 08/23/15 02:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I've never had trouble with lye, but google pictures of accidents and you'll definitely be careful if you ever work with it :smile: It does burn quite a bit on the skin...


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Young male going by the name "Bassfreak" entered Worcester General complaining of a sharp pain in his buttock region after attending EDM event. Attending physician considered a possible diagnosis of acute rave anus, but upon further investigation it was determined there was nothing cute about patient's anus.

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Re: Got a little lye in my DMT extraction, is re-x necessary? [Re: Janky Tits] * 1
    #22131109 - 08/23/15 02:20 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

If you have the means to extract it but can't finish the process with a re-x then you shouldn't have extracted in the first place. Don't combust that garbage, lye is very caustic. dissolve it in naphtha, sodium carb wash the naphtha, freeze precip with a re-x. utfse


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