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Re: I am an intelligent atheist [Re: pfxtc]
#22141620 - 08/25/15 04:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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i've listened to some of his spoken word, but never dove in to check out every single productions of his like i have hicks and stanhope
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Re: I am an intelligent atheist [Re: SurReality]
#22141641 - 08/25/15 04:18 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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SurReality said: i've listened to some of his spoken word, but never dove in to check out every single productions of his like i have hicks and stanhope
never got into stanhope - but i've heard everything hicks ever died and listened to all ~13 of jello's albums 5-6 times each - helped me thru many dperessions. also seem him live a few times (music) and got the shit beat out of me in the front row and had the time of my life - he puts on an amazing show.
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specialpeopleclub said: I've been avoiding flaming you for your intellegent, coherent posts, and you call me not bright. Thanks. A lack odf something is not the same as something. If there is no evidence, or worse, everything in science pointing to something being completely untrue, then the position holds nonvalidity. You are equivocating and make no sense. If I told you there were buildings on Mars, and we just can't see them, but I'm sure they are there and this old book told me, you would be a moron to believe me on that. You just don't understand logic. You just think all believes are equal. I believe two plus two is five, it must hold validity. Sam Harris used a flying tea kettle orbiting earth, but that is too likely now with all the space junk to be a propose example.
this is why you aren't very bright. i have never said any beliefs hold validity. because none do. that's why their called BELIEFS.
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specialpeopleclub said: So short sighted. And you call me the child.
oh boy and look him go.
parroting Hitch and Harris is totally win.
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Re: I am an intelligent atheist [Re: akira_akuma] 1
#22142458 - 08/25/15 06:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Believes have degrees. I believe the sun will come up tomorrow more then I believe I will win the lottery. Believes also have different foundations. Some are based in scientific rigor, some on old books written by no nothing people from the Near East. I can, through what I know about how things like biology seem to come about, and how atoms and molecules were created in the beginning of the universe, as well as the fact that there isn't a drop of evidence to support a creator, say with near certainty that there is none. This could be a simulation though, so watch out for that. I don't appreciate the insults, and recognize them and your shit stain argument as such.
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specialpeopleclub said: Believes have degrees. I believe the sun will come up tomorrow more then I believe I will win the lottery. Believes also have different foundations. Some are based in scientific rigor, some on old books written by no nothing people from the Near East. I can, through what I know about how things like biology seem to come about, and how atoms and molecules were created in the beginning of the universe, as well as the fact that there isn't a drop of evidence to support a creator, say with near certainty that there is none. This could be a simulation though, so watch out for that. I don't appreciate the insults, and recognize them and your shit stain argument as such.
You're starting a debate with Akira? Expect a 0 star rating from him within the next 24 hours.
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Atheism is practically a religion itself. look at how irrational you're acting.
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Re: I am an intelligent atheist [Re: Confucian]
#22142503 - 08/25/15 06:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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You're starting a debate with Akira? Expect a 0 star rating from him within the next 24 hours. 
now when has that like EVER happened. i gave you a rating because you weren't matching up to anyone, with your vitriol, in one instance. i forgot all about that, honestly, but still... I didn't argue with you.
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Re: I am an intelligent atheist [Re: akira_akuma]
#22142506 - 08/25/15 07:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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it shouldn't be all that easy to make me look good, damn it.
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Re: I am an intelligent atheist [Re: akira_akuma]
#22142560 - 08/25/15 07:10 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: Atheism is practically a religion itself. look at how irrational you're acting.
A religion has doctrine. It literally isn't. There are plenty of progressive Atheists who love Islam and everyone living together in peace and harmony. The Young Turks are like that, and they have like two billion you tube video and millions of followers. They slam Israel when the Muslems started the shit a thousand years ago, and continue it.
Doctrine and how it is interpreted is what counts. As an Atheist, that defines one aspect of belief. Yes it is believe, no one can be certain. No one can be certain the about anything apparently with wishy washy fucks bluring things that are very simple. You don't look good, you sound silly just like that other poster There are peaceful religions, even really open ended ones that let you build off experience, but they haven't historically had much sway, and we are still in history, and why I am picking on Islam.
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all discussions regarding atheism and religion make me sad to be part of humanity
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i don't give a flying anus that you are picking on Islam. you are mixing all the shite that you're posting about, across several threads, and assuming i'm arguing against everything you're saying...i'm not. i just said Atheism is a belief structure. PS: belief structures hold doctrines. for example your dictum here. you hold that Islam must be discussed harshly, even if hey look i'm not talking about fuckin' Islam. you insist that me saying that Atheism is a belief structure that holds a doctrine of militant idealism and persuasion towards your beliefs, and holds that other's belief's are dangerous or unfruitful, and you believe it is abhorrent and must be stopped.
that's your doctrine. to stifle, and shovel your shit down people's throats because you think you're right. kudos, but that's exactly what you're told to do (by the likes of Dawkins whom i respect) and you're doing it, and cannot budge because that's what makes you an Atheist. not that you believe in something, but that you think your believes are right and everyone else's is wrong and/or dangerous (ie Islam).
this is your dogma; that you're right and everyone else is wrong for thinking they're right, albeit with no proof that you're right; and if you weren't right, well, then you wouldn't be an Atheist. you'd be a normal person who's concerns are only Earthly.
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Re: I am an intelligent atheist [Re: akira_akuma]
#22142635 - 08/25/15 07:24 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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For the love of god thank you, I was trying to make that point and he went off about eradicating islam, he is more obsessed with religion than religious people
There's no talking with him, hes gotta be right or you're a wishy washy fuck because you don't believe what he does
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that's most Atheist's in my experience. not all, thank GOD, but most, yeah, they like to pretend they're "militant" because prophet Dawkins called for it on live TV once, and stuck by it like the holy grail of Atheism. you need to put Atheism in schools, in politics, everywhere, spread the good word!1
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Re: I am an intelligent atheist [Re: akira_akuma]
#22142668 - 08/25/15 07:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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That's what got me in this thread, was saying atheism is used like a religion lol and he went on the attack
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i tell Atheist peeps all the time "try and avoid using your belief's as a religious cause" and they get really mad and say Atheism means a lack of a belief in God, so it's ok what they preach.
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Re: I am an intelligent atheist [Re: akira_akuma]
#22142715 - 08/25/15 07:41 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: i tell Atheist peeps all the time "try and avoid using your belief's as a religious cause" and they get really mad and say Atheism means a lack of a belief in God, so it's ok what they preach.

I don't believe in God whatsoever but if someone calls me an atheist i get legitimately offended and need to take a cold shower afterwards.
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Re: I am an intelligent atheist [Re: pfxtc]
#22142758 - 08/25/15 07:48 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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i certainly don't use the term lightly, throwing it around like an insult. it's only an insult if the person is showing high regard for their belief's as if their belief's were undeniably true, and then try to summarize (for me mostly) how their belief's are not belief's but a lack of a belief, and that the facts point to there being no God, even though there is no evidence for either side of the debate.
making it a belief. then they get really mad and say that my belief's are stupid, and then i tell them i don't have any religious beliefs.
it's always fun.
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Re: I am an intelligent atheist [Re: akira_akuma]
#22142821 - 08/25/15 08:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: i certainly don't use the term lightly, throwing it around like an insult. it's only an insult if the person is showing high regard for their belief's as if their belief's were undeniably true, and then try to summarize (for me mostly) how their belief's are not belief's but a lack of a belief, and that the facts point to there being no God, even though there is no evidence for either side of the debate.
making it a belief. then they get really mad and say that my belief's are stupid, and then i tell them i don't have any religious beliefs.
it's always fun.
I've found the overall discussion on belief, one way or the other, to be a complete and utter waste of time. I have never cared one way or the other. god, no god, whatever, don't care. but please don't label me an atheist i don't wanna be part of that 'club'.
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Re: I am an intelligent atheist [Re: pfxtc]
#22142851 - 08/25/15 08:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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