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My first mini dubtub Golden Teachers +hpoo
#22126502 - 08/22/15 11:40 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Okay guys, so this is my first mini bulk and i started it kinda late but im going to keep updating as it goes.
The mushroom is Golden Teacher (multispore from vendor) The medium used is a rye berry filter patch bag with self healing inoc port
 picture taken yesterday when on 20th right before it was spawned, knocked up on the 1st so 20 days to 100% from MS, massaged the bag once at around 70 percent which was like the 17th, and the recovery was instant, from 70% to 100% in 3 days, it was insane to watch.
This is my mini-dubtub
 I cut out a lid and put some nissan gasket to create a seal, so now i just attach the lid to the main tub and boom profit, no holes at all I'll fan and mist as needed. The tubs were perfect, nice size,free from my girlfriend, they are 5in to the top so i have a good 4 1/2 inches of substrate which if I'm not mistaken is ideal. You can see some of the Hpoo left in the tub i mixed it in, in the picture above. i have 3 horses here at home, so i just went to our round pen and got a walmart bag full of the most dried and leeched poo in the pin, very hot here so the poo was already perfect, then i brought to field cap and pasteurized in jars in my PC with the weight off for 2 hours at 155 degrees (the happy medium for my burner), then spawned in layers as shown in RRs hpoo video, i didn't measure the ratio, but the rye bag is 1ib of rye.
it was spawned on the 20th and today the 22nd is when this pic was taken.
 very nice growth, very clean thick healthy mycelium, i wont be opening it again for atleast a week. and i still have the other IB bag of rye to spawn :P idk what im gonna use to fruit them yet,i have lots of small containers so maybe i will just do a few small containers and throw em in my SGFC if anyone has any ideas let me know
UPDATES
i just had to peak at them its been 5 days, ill get some hi res photos up when its near 100% but the growth is gorgeous white rhizmo and healthy

and heres a look at the super ropey bottom, ill take hi res of these later too




primidora and patches of pins all over inspect over it there is well over a dozen pins between both the pics.
PIN PORN!



there are over 100 visible pins on it right now, lots of side pinning right on the ede which is fone with me cause they are all growing up and out the side.





here's some hi res pics, nice top view and good pic of the fat ass side pin.



Second flush is some big boys!

Edited by Case420 (09/16/15 01:26 PM)
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Re: My first mini mono GT+hpoo [Re: Case420]
#22126805 - 08/22/15 01:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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You need holes if your fruiting out of that Nissan gasket thing bud.
If you have a SGFC best to fruit them as trays inside there.
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why do i "need" holes in a mini dub tub if i can fan and mist as needed.
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Re: My first mini mono GT+hpoo [Re: Case420]
#22141569 - 08/25/15 04:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Updates now in main post
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PirateSwazey said: You need holes if your fruiting out of that Nissan gasket thing bud.
If you have a SGFC best to fruit them as trays inside there.
Nissan gasket 
Fanning is not FAE . Fresh Air Exchange is a passive system that allows for the tub to regulate itself. Fanning is something we do to promote evaporation. you will need holes in that tub for a good flush my man.
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Re: My first mini mono GT+hpoo [Re: taGyo]
#22141607 - 08/25/15 04:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Some of us car guys call Black RTV silicone Nissan gasket because alot of the nissan drifters use just that instead of regular gaskets it's a habit :P, would two holes stuffed with polyfill suffice? say a soup can size hole one each end, or should i do 4 to spec?
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Re: My first mini mono GT+hpoo [Re: Case420]
#22143524 - 08/25/15 10:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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i added standard monotub pattern holes, loose with polyfill, how do i "dial in" the polyfill?
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Re: My first mini mono GT+hpoo [Re: Case420]
#22144913 - 08/26/15 08:16 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Can you show me pics please?
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Re: My first mini mono GT+hpoo [Re: taGyo]
#22145239 - 08/26/15 09:31 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: My first mini mono GT+hpoo [Re: Case420]
#22145241 - 08/26/15 09:32 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Might have to tape up two of those holes but go for it 
Make sure to case because you're going to experience drying out.
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Re: My first mini mono GT+hpoo [Re: taGyo]
#22145251 - 08/26/15 09:34 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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i was originally following a mycotopia mist and fan tek with no holes, and why case? I'm self employed i have all fucking day to mist and fan these guys
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Re: My first mini mono GT+hpoo [Re: Case420] 1
#22145264 - 08/26/15 09:38 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Because it will just be easier and promote better fruit development. They're pretty sensitive to environment while they're growing meaning you want to provide optimal conditions. I've run trays smaller then that and bigger then that and I've found that casing the smaller ones help promote a better pinset and fruit development.
I'm just trying to help lol, if you don't want to listen then don't . Misting and fanning a lot is not a replacement for a good environment. That's like saying if I was to put you in a hot ass room but gave you water often it would change the fact that you're in this hot ass room and working 3x as hard and drinking 3x as much water to keep up with your sweating.
It's not really about how much you mist/fan but how you take care of them. And Mycotopia is backwards as fuck, I can go to a weed forum and show you people who don't understand what humidity does for shrooms.
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Re: My first mini mono GT+hpoo [Re: taGyo]
#22145292 - 08/26/15 09:43 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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lol no offense intended dude, i just fucking talk like fuck fuckity fuck lol i have micropore tape to adjust the lid, but nothing to case with. i think ima go without casing, i also have 2 smaller trays of GT and a even smaller round tray of GT colonizing alongside, all from the same 2 ibs of spawn, this main one is about 80% colinized, all for sides are fully thick white healthy, 80% of the bottom and 80% of the top is covered in ropey healthy looking myc, two more days id say. should i introduce to fruiting day of completion?
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Re: My first mini mono GT+hpoo [Re: Case420]
#22145301 - 08/26/15 09:44 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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what should i pick up for casing if i do?
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Re: My first mini mono GT+hpoo [Re: Case420]
#22145310 - 08/26/15 09:45 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I would case with the coir you spawned with. Just put a light layer over it and fruit it immediately. It just helps to hold moisture at substrate level, increasing humidity retention and helping develop a pinset
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Re: My first mini mono GT+hpoo [Re: taGyo]
#22145323 - 08/26/15 09:47 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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lol why the fuck does everyone keep saying coir, read the title and Quote from OP " i have a good 4 1/2 inches of substrate which if I'm not mistaken is ideal. You can see some of the Hpoo left in the tub i mixed it in, in the picture above. i have 3 horses here at home, so i just went to our round pen and got a walmart bag full of the most dried and leeched poo in the pin, very hot here so the poo was already perfect, then i brought to field cap and pasteurized in jars in my PC with the weight off for 2 hours at 155 degrees (the happy medium for my burner), then spawned in layers as shown in RRs hpoo video, i didn't measure the ratio, but the rye bag is 1ib of rye."

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Re: My first mini mono GT+hpoo [Re: Case420]
#22145329 - 08/26/15 09:48 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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It looks like coir
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Re: My first mini mono GT+hpoo [Re: taGyo]
#22145339 - 08/26/15 09:49 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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IT'S HORSEY POO. from the horseys outside
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Re: My first mini mono GT+hpoo [Re: taGyo]
#22145358 - 08/26/15 09:52 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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He didn't spawn with coir if I read the OP correct. But verm, coir, and peat are common materials to case with. Peat is the tricky one as it must be properly pasteurized and should also be lime buffered or it goes green.
OP even if you have nothing better to do other than fan out the air every 20 min, your gonna need to sleep eventually. Despite what you may have heard on mycotopia, here at the shroomery many of us are big believers in the importance of frequent air exchange.
Good luck
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Re: My first mini mono GT+hpoo [Re: Pastywhyte]
#22145365 - 08/26/15 09:53 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: He didn't spawn with coir if I read the OP correct. But verm, coir, and peat are common materials to case with. Peat is the tricky one as it must be properly pasteurized and should also be lime buffered or it goes green.
I figured 
Can you pick up coir to case with? It's just the easiest to handle. Hey Pasty, can he case with hpoo and fruit immediately? Never heard of anyone casing with hpoo though.
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Re: My first mini mono GT+hpoo [Re: Pastywhyte]
#22145371 - 08/26/15 09:54 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah i chose shroomery for the lovely and helpful community, just trying to learn and get better known and make friends here  should i leave the dubteb seperate or in my sgfc with my trays for shits and gigs, or would that be bad for it
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Re: My first mini mono GT+hpoo [Re: Case420]
#22145376 - 08/26/15 09:55 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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i could go get some coir, petstore right?
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Re: My first mini mono GT+hpoo [Re: Case420]
#22145382 - 08/26/15 09:56 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Follow this:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11916595
If you're good with ratios and stuff you can probably hydrate just what you need.
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Re: My first mini mono GT+hpoo [Re: taGyo]
#22145389 - 08/26/15 09:57 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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yeah i have that bookmarked, i was gonna use it until i had a stoner moment and thought "wait, theres horses outside"
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Re: My first mini mono GT+hpoo [Re: Case420]
#22145393 - 08/26/15 09:58 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: My first mini mono GT+hpoo [Re: taGyo]
#22145398 - 08/26/15 09:59 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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if anybody wants to be mailed some good hay and oat fed leeched and dry hpoo, id be happy to share
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Re: My first mini mono GT+hpoo [Re: Case420]
#22145413 - 08/26/15 10:03 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Don't case with manure of any kind. That's begging for mold.
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Re: My first mini mono GT+hpoo [Re: Pastywhyte]
#22145414 - 08/26/15 10:03 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: My first mini mono GT+hpoo [Re: taGyo]
#22145425 - 08/26/15 10:05 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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for future reference since i havent found much info on it, what are the risks of introducing to fruiting conditions early?
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Re: My first mini mono GT+hpoo [Re: Case420]
#22145438 - 08/26/15 10:07 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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igher risk of contams and or lower yeilds
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Re: My first mini mono GT+hpoo [Re: Case420]
#22145440 - 08/26/15 10:07 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Case420 said: for future reference since i havent found much info on it, what are the risks of introducing to fruiting conditions early?
If the sub is coir and verm you risk a shitty flush. If the sub is anything else you risk trich.
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Re: My first mini mono GT+hpoo [Re: Case420]
#22145446 - 08/26/15 10:08 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Nothing except shittier pinset and probably less yield.
One of three things will happen: A) The tub will start fruiting immediately leading to a shitty pinset and less yield because not everything is colonized so the myc doesn't have full access to all the available nutrients and water.
B) The tub will fully colonize and then fruit anyway because myc likes to do that. Or it will colonize a little more and then fruit. This will probably lead to a drier substrate that will need misting.
C) Any contams that were in the spawn or substrate or in the air with hpoo will sporulate as the myc either fruits or continues to colonize and fuck everything.
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Re: My first mini mono GT+hpoo [Re: Pastywhyte]
#22145452 - 08/26/15 10:09 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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cool thanks, so SGFC or separate area?
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Re: My first mini mono GT+hpoo [Re: Case420]
#22177926 - 09/02/15 12:01 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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UPDATE : The tray is now covered in primidora, ill try to get a pic but idk if it will be good enough to really do it justice, waiting for them to mature to pins before pics, but its a nice healthy looking pinset to be
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Re: My first mini mono GT+hpoo [Re: Case420]
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Re: My first mini mono GT+hpoo [Re: taGyo]
#22183123 - 09/03/15 01:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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UPDATE : Pins Pins and more pins! well like 7, but so many of the primidora are showing pin shape, and theres atleast a few visible nice pins, will have some pics added to main post later on tonight
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Re: My first mini mono GT+hpoo [Re: Case420]
#22184796 - 09/03/15 08:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Updated pics of pins and primidora on main post
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Re: My first mini mono GT+hpoo [Re: Case420]
#22188522 - 09/04/15 03:01 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Counted 82 visible pins just now, more popping up every few hours only a few days now
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Re: My first mini mono GT+hpoo [Re: Case420]
#22188735 - 09/04/15 03:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Case420 said: why do i "need" holes in a mini dub tub if i can fan and mist as needed.
You do not NEED holes. They might help, might not. They will keep the humidity from staying too high and promoting infection. I get away with minimal holes, misting, and fanning.
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Re: My first mini mono GT+hpoo [Re: tahoe]
#22188836 - 09/04/15 04:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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holes in the FC definitely helps! but you dont need anything for fruiting in this hobby, mushrooms will grow in vitro in the dark.
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Re: My first mini mono GT+hpoo [Re: spacechildo]
#22193428 - 09/05/15 04:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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UPDATE: There is now pin porn on the main post! there are TONS of pins, all nice and healthy, let me know what you think
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Re: My first mini mono GT+hpoo [Re: Case420]
#22208208 - 09/08/15 04:39 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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final wet weight of first flush is 178 grams wet, pics up soon.
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