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tahoe
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What to do with 10+ year old PF Syringes?
#22125390 - 08/22/15 02:10 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ever wish you had a spore syringe from the man himself? Well now here is your chance! Does anyone here have the know-how to dissect these things and find out what pf would put in his syringes to give them that extra pop? I have been meaning to give these away for the past 5 years. I am not sure of the strains. One says h, the second says s, and the third had no writing on it. So who has the skills and more importantly, the time?
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Grey
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Re: What to do with 10+ year old PF Syringes? [Re: tahoe]
#22125667 - 08/22/15 06:39 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Damn man, that's pretty cool. How have you been storing them?
The oldest I've worked with was a six year old PR print.
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Re: What to do with 10+ year old PF Syringes? [Re: Grey]
#22129507 - 08/23/15 02:56 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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ranonar said: Perhaps this now is the good thread to reveal some extra bits of info...
Something about me: Ranonar = Yachaj Paye (I posted under that name a decade ago). I have maintained Billy's archive during the nineties, and still do that.
Funny things I remember of Billy. He not only was a cultivation and musical genius - able to make complicaded things very simple - but also quite stubborn. Not the easiest teacher to have at all. And he was not that good in spelling words. Psylocybe fanaticus of course should have been Psilocybe but once the company name existed he hold on to it. So Psylocybe it is. And in his manual he wrote about inoculation. Not inoculation as it should be. But this misspelling went lagerly unnoticed. Tons of psilophiles now write inoculation. Just do a web search on the word - it is a clear sign of the influence of Billy!!
One unpublished 'secret' of his sporesyringe formula. People always were puzzled why his syringes always appeared so evenly mixed with spores. The spores never stuck to the syringe barrell! It was a hallmark of his syringes only. Nobody was able to replicate it. And here at shroomery and there at mycotopia there have been several attempts to figure it out. Clever folks indeed figured out that something was added to the water. But what was it? People experimented with detergent to make the water thinner. Others used micro sound waves to separate the clumps of spores into individual spores. Some even added sex lube to the water (really!). Man, you made Billy rolling over the floor about that!!!
OK. Now is the time to reveal the secret. First some explanation. The water should not be thinner but thicker (so that spores will not move to the syringe barrell wall). And the spore clumps should not be totally broken up into individual spores (technically the clumps should never be smaller than two spores, but in practice a dozen or so is fine). Also, whatever is added to the water should not lead to pre-germination of the spores. And that is difficult since (almost) whatever does not kill the spores will be eaten by them and used for germination. Of course, whatever is added to the water should not be toxic to the spores either.
The solution to all these requirements was AGAR. Just plain agar agar. In a concentration of one gram per liter of water. ISn't it weird that no copycat vendor thought about that?
Recipe: You make bottles of 1 g/l agarwater, and in those you inject concentrated sporewater. The spores in the concentrated sporewater (in 30ml bottles) may be broken up (if they all stick together) by freezing/thawing the small bottles. One full petri dish of spores in 1 small bottle is enough for 5 liters of sporewater this way. 500 syringes.
It is bizarre that no one so far thought of a simple pure agarwater solution. But that is what is was!!! No sex lube definately!
Another 'secret': how to clean the spores from bacteria. That was done with tetracycline - if needed. One petri dish of Spores was scraped in 30ml bottles containing 1 g/liter of tetracyclin and kept for 4 days at roomtemperature. This killed the bacteria, then the spore concentrate was injected into 500ml agarwater bottles.
But this is all a good story for history. The spore syringe is dead anyway. Yeah that is right. Among the final and yet unpublished parts of the PF TEK was the removal of the spore syringe of the technique. After the pressure canner and the petri dish the syringe was the last annoying cumbersome utensil to go.
A year ago Billy and I communicated about re-ignition fanaticus. Billy wanted that because he knew he did not have much time on this planet anyway and he figured that it would then be better to take the risk of being caught and receive an effective 'life sentence' of less than a year, i.e. make the government pay for his remaining ospital bills, since they took his bank accounts earlier. Billy though that to be a good statement. But his wife -in 2003 another member of the 'fanaticus gang'- didn't see it that way.
The removal of the syringe would have been the main improvement of the new PF TEK. The old spore syringe would become obsolete. But the disagreement about the re-ignation of fanaticus.com prevented that. But now Billy is not here anymore there is no reason to keep it from happening.
More about this new technique will be published soon at the old fanaticus.com - I do not know how soon it actually will be because a couple of his old friends of the music scene (Billy was a hell of a sax/guitar/keyboard musician!!!) will use the site for a Billy memorial, so I gave them the password and will see what they make of it. But later on, just watch it, the spore syringe is about to retire and a replacement will be published at fanaticus.com
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Re: What to do with 10+ year old PF Syringes? [Re: blackout]
#22129523 - 08/23/15 03:10 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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