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OfflineRoseM
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Ok kids...
    #22125000 - 08/21/15 11:14 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Let's do this thing.

I choose Hillary.


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Re: Ok kids... [Re: Rose]
    #22125151 - 08/22/15 12:02 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

WAIT WHAT HOW DID I GET HERE?! NNOOOOOOO

Uh... well, ok. I like Bernie but I don't believe he has a chance in the general election so I'd probably go with Hillary as well. I'm not the biggest fan of her but I believe she is America's iron lady, no scandal can take her down and she is well-liked by most moderates. I just hope that she takes a cue from Bernie's popularity in the early polls to move her positions a bit to the left. I have high hopes that Obama's successes will pave the way for a leftward shift in American politics in the coming years, we've had way more than enough tax cuts and privatization bullshit going on, it needs to fucking stop.


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Re: Ok kids... [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #22125883 - 08/22/15 08:07 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Why would Hillary move her policies to the left when she's winning?

Don't you think her centrist (read: neocon) agenda is why moderates like her?


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Re: Ok kids... [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 1
    #22125898 - 08/22/15 08:12 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

BlindSophist said:
WAIT WHAT HOW DID I GET HERE?! NNOOOOOOO

Uh... well, ok. I like Bernie but I don't believe he has a chance in the general election so I'd probably go with Hillary as well. I'm not the biggest fan of her but I believe she is America's iron lady, no scandal can take her down and she is well-liked by most moderates. I just hope that she takes a cue from Bernie's popularity in the early polls to move her positions a bit to the left. I have high hopes that Obama's successes will pave the way for a leftward shift in American politics in the coming years, we've had way more than enough tax cuts and privatization bullshit going on, it needs to fucking stop.




"I have high hope that Obama's success will pave the way for a leftward shift in American politics"

:lolwut:  You mean the US President that has governed as a puppet for the elite? 

Let's see, we have the largest wealth and income inequality in 80 years, that's a "leftward shift in American politics"?  :rofl2:


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Re: Ok kids... [Re: Rose]
    #22126688 - 08/22/15 12:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I'm watching Jim Webb.
http://2016.democratic-candidates.org/Webb/
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...served in Vietnam as a Marine Platoon Commander and he received a Navy Cross, Silver Star, two Bronze Stars and two Purple Hearts.



He's a bad ass...:guns::patriot: . . . :peace:


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Re: Ok kids... [Re: vinsue]
    #22127271 - 08/22/15 02:24 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Hitlery is going down in flames. It will just take a while for her to realize it. Obumble is slowly tightening the screws, she messed up and must pay the price. Hopefully she will do some hard time.

qman
>Let's see, we have the largest wealth and income inequality in 80 years, that's a "leftward shift in American politics"?

If we have any more leftward shifts, all the money will belong to one person.


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Re: Ok kids... [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22127492 - 08/22/15 03:14 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I think that's the best post you've ever made, Stoney.


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Re: Ok kids... [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22130444 - 08/23/15 11:13 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Stonehenge said:
Hitlery is going down in flames. It will just take a while for her to realize it. Obumble is slowly tightening the screws, she messed up and must pay the price. Hopefully she will do some hard time.

qman
>Let's see, we have the largest wealth and income inequality in 80 years, that's a "leftward shift in American politics"?

If we have any more leftward shifts, all the money will belong to one person.






"A few years ago, this guy would have been getting us coffee,"

Obama has never forgotten this Clinton statement.


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Re: Ok kids... [Re: joe666] * 2
    #22130460 - 08/23/15 11:16 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

You guys are fucking nuts to even consider voting for Hillary


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Re: Ok kids... [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #22131831 - 08/23/15 04:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

BlindSophist said:
WAIT WHAT HOW DID I GET HERE?! NNOOOOOOO

Uh... well, ok. I like Bernie but I don't believe he has a chance in the general election so I'd probably go with Hillary as well. I'm not the biggest fan of her but I believe she is America's iron lady, no scandal can take her down and she is well-liked by most moderates. I just hope that she takes a cue from Bernie's popularity in the early polls to move her positions a bit to the left. I have high hopes that Obama's successes will pave the way for a leftward shift in American politics in the coming years, we've had way more than enough tax cuts and privatization bullshit going on, it needs to fucking stop.



Yeah tax cuts are a bad thing :ilold:


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Re: Ok kids... [Re: Webster10] * 1
    #22131920 - 08/23/15 05:14 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

It is when EXxon is making billions a year and getting tax rebates.


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Re: Ok kids... [Re: Webster10]
    #22131994 - 08/23/15 05:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Webster10 said:
Quote:

BlindSophist said:
WAIT WHAT HOW DID I GET HERE?! NNOOOOOOO

Uh... well, ok. I like Bernie but I don't believe he has a chance in the general election so I'd probably go with Hillary as well. I'm not the biggest fan of her but I believe she is America's iron lady, no scandal can take her down and she is well-liked by most moderates. I just hope that she takes a cue from Bernie's popularity in the early polls to move her positions a bit to the left. I have high hopes that Obama's successes will pave the way for a leftward shift in American politics in the coming years, we've had way more than enough tax cuts and privatization bullshit going on, it needs to fucking stop.



Yeah tax cuts are a bad thing :ilold:




Which nation with lower taxes is doing better than us?


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Re: Ok kids... [Re: paperbackwriter]
    #22135937 - 08/24/15 03:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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paperbackwriter said:
It is when EXxon is making billions a year and getting tax rebates.



you do know what a tax rebate it correct? It means they already payed too much in taxes.


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Re: Ok kids... [Re: psyconaught]
    #22135946 - 08/24/15 03:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

The far left doesn't believe there is such a thing as too much tax. As long as someone else is paying it, that is.


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Re: Ok kids... [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22136281 - 08/24/15 04:24 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yes, that low tax thing is working out great for Kansas. :disappointedlaugh:


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Re: Ok kids... [Re: Le_Canard]
    #22136289 - 08/24/15 04:26 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Yes, that low tax thing is working out great for Kansas. :disappointedlaugh:



its working pretty damn well for Texas. Its almost as if the issues is *gasp* NUANCED


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Re: Ok kids... [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22136306 - 08/24/15 04:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Stonehenge said:
The far left doesn't believe there is such a thing as too much tax. As long as someone else is paying it, that is.




How do you account for extremely wealthy left-wingers who actually lobby to pay more taxes? Obviously there are fewer of them than their right-wing greed-headed counterparts, but let's face it, without the monied left, we'd have unmitigated anarchy in this country :shrug:


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Re: Ok kids... [Re: psyconaught]
    #22136308 - 08/24/15 04:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Well, with oil and natural gas tanking, the miracle in Texas will soon lose its luster.


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Re: Ok kids... [Re: Le_Canard]
    #22136495 - 08/24/15 05:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Le_Canard said:
Well, with oil and natural gas tanking, the miracle in Texas will soon lose its luster.



Texas is the 12th largest economy in the world. And leads the united states in export revenues at close to 200 Billion dollars with the 6th largest port in the world as well as the best air cargo airport in the world. The largest industries besides oil are technology, biomedical, and defense. Its intellectually dishonest to say the only thing they have going for them is oil.


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Re: Ok kids... [Re: psyconaught]
    #22137041 - 08/24/15 07:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I would vote Hillary over a Republican, if only for the Supreme Court appointee(s). I know that would drive the right-wing loons crazier than they already are. Granted, I live in one of the bluest of blue states. I really hope the US gets past this political dynasty bullshit though.


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Re: Ok kids... [Re: psyconaught]
    #22140709 - 08/25/15 12:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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psyconaught said:
Quote:

Le_Canard said:
Well, with oil and natural gas tanking, the miracle in Texas will soon lose its luster.



Texas is the 12th largest economy in the world. And leads the united states in export revenues at close to 200 Billion dollars with the 6th largest port in the world as well as the best air cargo airport in the world. The largest industries besides oil are technology, biomedical, and defense. Its intellectually dishonest to say the only thing they have going for them is oil.




To be fair, he only said "lose its luster."


My BMWs paint lost its luster, but it's still a BMW.


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Re: Ok kids... [Re: Le_Canard]
    #22142649 - 08/25/15 07:28 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Le_Canard said:
Yes, that low tax thing is working out great for Kansas. :disappointedlaugh:



It's working out decently for them. The liberal media spins it as disastrous but in reality it's doing ok, not great.


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Re: Ok kids... [Re: Webster10]
    #22142687 - 08/25/15 07:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

When the big economic collapse hits, we can quit worrying about the little stuff. Some say it has started already. Sell your stocks if you have any.


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Re: Ok kids... [Re: Webster10]
    #22144651 - 08/26/15 06:45 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Webster10 said:
Quote:

Le_Canard said:
Yes, that low tax thing is working out great for Kansas. :disappointedlaugh:



It's working out decently for them. The liberal media spins it as disastrous but in reality it's doing ok, not great.




Decently to ok to not great in only two sentences.


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Re: Ok kids... [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #22146180 - 08/26/15 12:28 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
Quote:

Webster10 said:
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Le_Canard said:
Yes, that low tax thing is working out great for Kansas. :disappointedlaugh:



It's working out decently for them. The liberal media spins it as disastrous but in reality it's doing ok, not great.




Decently to ok to not great in only two sentences.



all three adjectives seem to be interchangeable in this context.


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Re: Ok kids... [Re: psyconaught]
    #22146275 - 08/26/15 12:42 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah they're all equally wrong.


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Re: Ok kids... [Re: vinsue]
    #22149835 - 08/27/15 03:25 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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vinsue said:
I'm watching Jim Webb.
http://2016.democratic-candidates.org/Webb/
Quote:

...served in Vietnam as a Marine Platoon Commander and he received a Navy Cross, Silver Star, two Bronze Stars and two Purple Hearts.



He's a bad ass...:guns::patriot: . . . :peace:





I read his book 'Fields of fire' 3 times  It's a fucking epic war novel.:awesomenod:


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Re: Ok kids... [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #22150580 - 08/27/15 09:38 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
My BMWs paint lost its luster, but it's still a BMW.



Yeah, my condolences.


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Re: Ok kids... [Re: Enlil]
    #22151445 - 08/27/15 01:14 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks, just needs a good wet sanding is all.


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Re: Ok kids... [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #22151574 - 08/27/15 01:44 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Even with that, it'll still be a BMW:shrug:

I was stuck with a BMW for about two weeks, and it was pure hell.  Hopefully, that never happens again.


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Re: Ok kids... [Re: Enlil]
    #22154357 - 08/27/15 11:18 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Well fuck me royal. My McLaren F-1 had a nick on the underside of the back bumper but I guess that's life.  :crazybeard:


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Re: Ok kids... [Re: starfire_xes]
    #22156012 - 08/28/15 11:04 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah those are pretty low to the ground, gotta be careful.


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Re: Ok kids... [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #22159188 - 08/29/15 02:22 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Yeah those are pretty low to the ground, gotta be careful.



:lolsy:


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Re: Ok kids... [Re: psyconaught]
    #22163635 - 08/30/15 07:36 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
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Webster10 said:
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Le_Canard said:
Yes, that low tax thing is working out great for Kansas. :disappointedlaugh:



It's working out decently for them. The liberal media spins it as disastrous but in reality it's doing ok, not great.




Decently to ok to not great in only two sentences.



all three adjectives seem to be interchangeable in this context.



:whathesaid:

Ecstatic :facepalm:


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Re: Ok kids... [Re: Webster10]
    #22164263 - 08/30/15 11:00 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah it's working out so decently that the state supreme court ruled that Brownback's tax cuts to public schools were so extreme that they violated the constitution.


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Re: Ok kids... [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #22164287 - 08/30/15 11:03 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

If you wanna say Kansas is disputable, show me one other instance of economic growth, specifically for the middle and working class, in any state or nation that has enacted tax cuts like the ones in Kansas.

Austerity doesn't work.
Tax cuts don't work.
Deregulation doesn't work.
Privatization doesn't work.

We hold these truths to be self evident.


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Re: Ok kids... [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #22164457 - 08/30/15 11:53 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

So higher taxes are always better and 100% government control of every aspect of the economy is best? Are you sure there isn't some sort of middle ground?


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Re: Ok kids... [Re: psyconaught]
    #22165446 - 08/30/15 04:34 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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psyconaught said:
So higher taxes are always better and 100% government control of every aspect of the economy is best? Are you sure there isn't some sort of middle ground?




Tax cuts are bad, doesn't meaning raising taxes is the answer.

Letting corporations regulate themselves is bad, doesn't mean government controlling every aspect of the economy is the answer.

Yes, unlike you, I think there's some middle ground.


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Re: Ok kids... [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #22166103 - 08/30/15 07:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Yes, unlike you, I think there's some middle ground.



ha


haha


hahahaha



thats cute. You think you know my political beliefs :lolsy:


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Re: Ok kids... [Re: psyconaught]
    #22167044 - 08/30/15 10:34 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I'm basing my opinion (that you see only black and white) on this comment:

Quote:

psyconaught said:
So higher taxes are always better and 100% government control of every aspect of the economy is best? Are you sure there isn't some sort of middle ground?




...in which you imply that not cutting taxes is the same as raising them, and that the existence of regulation and the public sector is akin to fascism.


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