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Why so very very fat and stubby?
    #22124244 - 08/21/15 08:06 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Hey dudes --
I have this batch of KSSS that are super funny and awesome looking, and I'm wondering if anyone has insight on what the cause could be.. I'm quite curious.


The only out of the ordinary variable to this monotub was that the quart jars used to spawn these pretty much went to hell and back before they were spawned to the substrate.  Due to psychotic ex I had to throw a storage bin full of ~90% colonized jars in the trunk of my car for 5-6 days, with outdoor temperatures in the 70s-80s during that week.  When I got the <expletive deleted> out of my dwelling and the jars back inside, they had become fully colonized and a little fuzzy on top, but all the water seemed like it had been sucked out of the WBS and was just standing water in the bottom of the jar.  I kept them for ~2 months before I decided to try to spawn them for grins and giggles (which I'm having now looking at these fruits).  I know I shouldn't ever wait that long but I order my substrate from Shroom Supply (those dudes fuckin' rock btw) and had to convince myself to blow $75 on an experiment.  So, the jars were roughly 3 months old. 

So any ideas what causes this to happen? Or just a random mutation?

Fruit weighed 14.5g when I plucked it


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Re: Why so very very fat and stubby? [Re: fenrirfireal]
    #22124292 - 08/21/15 08:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Because it's KSSS and that's what they do half the time.  You pick a mutant strain, that's what happens.  Seen plenty of KSSS grows with flat spaceship mushrooms.


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Re: Why so very very fat and stubby? [Re: Inocuole]
    #22124348 - 08/21/15 08:25 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Ahhh... ok.  This was my first time trying KSSS, didn't realize it was a mutated strain.  I usually just mess with cubes native to Florida since that's where I live.

Thank you for the reply.


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Re: Why so very very fat and stubby? [Re: fenrirfireal]
    #22124356 - 08/21/15 08:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yep it's arguably the most mutated strain other than possibly PE.  You'll get all kinds of weird looking potent fuckers from KSSS.


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Re: Why so very very fat and stubby? [Re: fenrirfireal]
    #22124793 - 08/21/15 10:14 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Also people prefer picking the "spaceship" looking KSSS when the caps flare upwards. You probably could have waited a day or 2 before picking. It makes them much more easier to pick, and they seem to just pop right off the substrate :shrug:


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Re: Why so very very fat and stubby? [Re: Mad Season]
    #22124797 - 08/21/15 10:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

i give my ksss a good thick casing layer/consolidation time to minimize the short and stubby's


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Re: Why so very very fat and stubby? [Re: cronicr]
    #22125149 - 08/22/15 12:01 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I miss my flying saucers :sad:




I love the way they start. Lost the last clone though.


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Re: Why so very very fat and stubby? [Re: taGyo]
    #22125189 - 08/22/15 12:18 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)


ksss...weird huh, i told blinding leaf to give it a shot he had the same results,also another member i told to clone a stubby and consolidate/case it, he got normal shrooms


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Re: Why so very very fat and stubby? [Re: cronicr]
    #22126488 - 08/22/15 11:38 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

They've been interesting to grow for sure.

For drying purposes, for those that grew the stubbies before, how did you know they fully dried? I can't exactly snap them in half to check xD Normally I go about 24-32 hours in the dehydrator and they come out dry as a bone.. But being these are so spongey and fat, just add another 12 hours or so? I don't wanna have to destroy them to check :laugh:


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Re: Why so very very fat and stubby? [Re: fenrirfireal]
    #22126520 - 08/22/15 11:47 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Dry for 12 hours. They retain quite a bit of mositure. I didn't even check until 12 hours at 160f. Honestly, 24 hours is probably better. I dried for 10 hours once and they felt dry and within an hour they were bendy again. Lost some potency to improper drying before.


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Re: Why so very very fat and stubby? [Re: taGyo]
    #22126615 - 08/22/15 12:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I don't do 160f, I usually stay around 100. Is 160 your everyday temp or just for these particular fatties?


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Re: Why so very very fat and stubby? [Re: fenrirfireal]
    #22126636 - 08/22/15 12:18 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Highest temp on the dehydrator works just fine :thumbup: it takes a far higher temp (350F+) to start degrading the actives. I've left stuff in the dehydrator on max temp for like 3 days longer than it should have (I had to run out of town and forgot about them) I had no potency issues.

Prolonged heat (left in a hot trunk of a car for a couple months), and especially sunlight will degrade them


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Re: Why so very very fat and stubby? [Re: cronicr]
    #22126654 - 08/22/15 12:23 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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ksss...weird huh, i told blinding leaf to give it a shot he had the same results,also another member i told to clone a stubby and consolidate/case it, he got normal shrooms



I've never seen ksss with light colored caps, every time I've grown them they have been a dark brown


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Re: Why so very very fat and stubby? [Re: Mad Season]
    #22126721 - 08/22/15 12:46 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Highest temp on the dehydrator works just fine :thumbup: it takes a far higher temp (350F+) to start degrading the actives. I've left stuff in the dehydrator on max temp for like 3 days longer than it should have (I had to run out of town and forgot about them) I had no potency issues.

Prolonged heat (left in a hot trunk of a car for a couple months), and especially sunlight will degrade them



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Re: Why so very very fat and stubby? [Re: taGyo]
    #22128910 - 08/22/15 10:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Cool-- good info to have. Thanks for that tidbit


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Re: Why so very very fat and stubby? [Re: fenrirfireal]
    #22129114 - 08/22/15 11:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I ran what was supposed to be KSSS for a few years. Never saw a single mutant and I don't think I ever cased them, but I did so many tubs I can't say for sure.

It was by far the fastest, best yeilding strain I've ever done, especially the isolate I had. Wish some douche wouldn't have stolen it from me.


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Re: Why so very very fat and stubby? [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #22129232 - 08/22/15 11:55 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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It was by far the fastest, best yeilding strain I've ever done, especially the isolate I had. Wish some douche wouldn't have stolen it from me.



You should go to his parents' house, cut his mother's head off, put it on a stick and buttf*ck his father with it. Just a thought....


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Re: Why so very very fat and stubby? [Re: GerG]
    #22129269 - 08/23/15 12:16 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I agree.

But I should do a lot of things I'm not going to do. :shrug:

He kinda got his in the end. Karma's a motherfucker.


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