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Fly Agaric ID Request Medicinal value?
    #22123943 - 08/21/15 07:01 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Habitat:
In grass next to woods. Southeast Alaska. Temperate rainforest.

Gills:
white gills not attached

Stem:
7 inches, 1/2 inch thick, with stem, folded down veil, fuzzy coating below skirt that rubs off when touched.

Cap:
5 inches accross, Beautiful orange fading to a yellow along the edge, bald pleasent texture, spherical, remnants of warts. The smaller immature fungi has a darker orange/ red colored cap that is sperical and covered in warts.

Bruising:
no noticeable bruising

Other information:
pleasant smell, growning in abundance next to my home. A slug is happily chewing its way through a younger specimen.

I have read an article on this site; "Amanit Muscaria- A new outlook" that is convincing me to give this controversial mushroom a try... To sum up the article; a man who is very familiar with the mushroom advises its gourmet and medicinal qualities. He states that the most common approaches to using this mushroom are the worst. i.e; drying the mushrooms ruins the edibility and excessive dosage.

I am hoping to hear from someone that is experienced with this beautiful fungus to shed light that may confirm its value.

What are your recommended doses? Hallucinogenic? Medicinal?
How do you preserve it?
What am i risking in trying this mushroom with low dosage?

Thanks  y'all




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Re: Fly Agaric ID Request Medicinal value? [Re: clayusvi]
    #22124106 - 08/21/15 07:41 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yes that's Amanita mucscaria, good job. These are psychoactive however they do not contain psliocybin/psilocin and are considered a deliriant. Much different effect. There's a ton of information about this species if you do a simple web search or use the search function on this site.


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Re: Fly Agaric ID Request Medicinal value? [Re: MidnightCity]
    #22124144 - 08/21/15 07:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Thank you MC, the more i read about it the more enticing it appears. I will approach this with caution.


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Re: Fly Agaric ID Request Medicinal value? [Re: clayusvi]
    #22124310 - 08/21/15 08:18 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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clayusvi said:
Thank you MC, the more i read about it the more enticing it appears. I will approach this with caution.




You're welcome, great job putting together your ID request by the way.  :smile2:


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Re: Fly Agaric ID Request Medicinal value? [Re: clayusvi]
    #22124358 - 08/21/15 08:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I have taken low doses of Amanita muscaria var. flavivolvata, and Amanita muscaria var. persicina.  I took these to help with anxiety and to help me sleep, I found them to be effective.

I never measured out how much though, I would just take a few caps here and there throughout the day, and a few more an hour before bed.  I would think maybe 2grms in the morning, and maybe 2grms at night.

I have never had the desire to dose any muscaria types for psychedelic purposes though.


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Re: Fly Agaric ID Request Medicinal value? [Re: Lucis]
    #22124986 - 08/21/15 11:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Nice, high quality photos. I wish I was a good photographer.


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Re: Fly Agaric ID Request Medicinal value? [Re: MidnightCity]
    #22125235 - 08/22/15 12:40 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Nice to see a native Floridian, in from WPB so ive only been exposed to Psilocybin Cubensis. Interested to see the contrasts here...


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Re: Fly Agaric ID Request Medicinal value? [Re: MagicDave]
    #22125241 - 08/22/15 12:41 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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MagicDave said:
Nice, high quality photos. I wish I was a good photographer.





That pic with the slug is very cool.:awesomenod:


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Re: Fly Agaric ID Request Medicinal value? [Re: Lucis]
    #22125246 - 08/22/15 12:43 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Thank you. I have read and seen that they can have both a euphoric and narcotic effect. I am interested in seeing how starting my day with a small medicinal dose ends up. Im also trying these detoxified to experience the flavor that seems to be so renowned...


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Re: Fly Agaric ID Request Medicinal value? [Re: clayusvi]
    #22125251 - 08/22/15 12:45 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

i just want to comment an say what beautiful pics they are thanks


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Re: Fly Agaric ID Request Medicinal value? [Re: Cujllickduo]
    #22125564 - 08/22/15 05:11 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

A nice way to fix these up :
Sun dry all the caps. Once cracker dry (breaks like a saltine cracker) scrape out all the gills. Powder the caps. Then I put a tablespoon of powder in my eggs for breakfast. Or you can put some in a tea, before bed. Start off with LOW doses (sounds like you're intelligent enough to not eat an oz of these tho)! You can gradually work up in dosage, to where you feel comfortable.
Enjoy them! And great post, brotha!!


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Re: Fly Agaric ID Request Medicinal value? [Re: art2312]
    #22126840 - 08/22/15 01:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Interesting.. unfortunately south east alaska doesnt allow you to "sun dry" things like you can in Florida.. But i do have a big dehydrating oven that will work. The only thing stoppinh me from grinding them up in the coffee grinder is that i share my coffee grinder with 4 other people.. I wouldnt want them to have a suprise Fly Agatic trip on my behalf...

Would you consider 1 tablespoon a small dose? and does the flavor turn when they are dried? i have read bad things about dried Agaric


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