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Anchor Babies
    #22123920 - 08/21/15 06:52 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Anchor Babies [Re: Bitter Cactus] * 1
    #22123926 - 08/21/15 06:55 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

its bullshit. foreigners shouldnt be allowed to breed citizens

whether they are illegals or on visas, the baby should have the same citizenship as the mother.


Edited by Adolin (08/21/15 06:56 PM)


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Re: Anchor Babies [Re: Adolin]
    #22123941 - 08/21/15 07:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yes, people should only be allowed citizenship after a test of skill and strength, like wrestling a bear or something


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Re: Anchor Babies [Re: Le_Canard]
    #22123954 - 08/21/15 07:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

i dunno about wrestling a bear. but a paper and pencil test will suffice

also: i dont find the term offensive.  dont hear it often anyways


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Re: Anchor Babies [Re: Adolin]
    #22124001 - 08/21/15 07:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Most Americans would fail the citizenship test.


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Re: Anchor Babies [Re: Adolin] * 3
    #22124011 - 08/21/15 07:18 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

here, I came up with a poll of my own, you may find it enlightening :laugh:
do you find it offensive when canadians won't mind their own goddamned business re: politics?
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Re: Anchor Babies [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #22124022 - 08/21/15 07:22 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Most Americans would fail the citizenship test.




then fuck em. i'm confident enough to take the test.

shit, i loved social studies in school

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here, I came up with a poll of my own, you may find it enlightening :laugh:




that is a... biased poll. or something.

i like the canuks input on US politics. i dont agree with it all, and i will happy mock them, but they have a point sometimes.


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Re: Anchor Babies [Re: Adolin] * 2
    #22124027 - 08/21/15 07:23 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

No they don't. Ever. They are full of shit.


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Re: Anchor Babies [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #22124032 - 08/21/15 07:24 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

your a RACIS!


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Re: Anchor Babies [Re: Adolin]
    #22124043 - 08/21/15 07:26 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Canadian is a national identity, not a race.


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Re: Anchor Babies [Re: Adolin]
    #22124046 - 08/21/15 07:26 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

As a Canadian, the reason we are so interested in US politics is because our politics are super boring. We have nothing going on here that is interesting honestly.


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Re: Anchor Babies [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22124049 - 08/21/15 07:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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As a Canadian, the reason we are so interested in US politics is because our politics are super boring. We have nothing going on here that is interesting honestly.




That's not true. That story about the crack-smoking Toronto mayor was fucking hilarious, but I didn't see any Canadians posting up about it here.


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Re: Anchor Babies [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #22124052 - 08/21/15 07:28 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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As a Canadian, the reason we are so interested in US politics is because our politics are super boring. We have nothing going on here that is interesting honestly.




That's not true. That story about the crack-smoking Toronto mayor was fucking hilarious, but I didn't see any Canadians posting up about it here.




That is old news.

We just have Stephen Harper as the prime minister every year. Nobody cares anymore.


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Re: Anchor Babies [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22124059 - 08/21/15 07:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Harper is a jackass. You guys need to get all up in arms about how shitty your government is, like we do. It's the smoldering controversies and vendettas which have existed forever that make US politics so interesting. Go start some of your own shit, pick on some Quebecois or something, go nuts. I don't give a fuck.


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Re: Anchor Babies [Re: Bitter Cactus] * 2
    #22124061 - 08/21/15 07:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Don't canadians elect their leader in a hockey shootout?


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Re: Anchor Babies [Re: Bitter Cactus] * 1
    #22124063 - 08/21/15 07:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Canadian is a national identity, not a race.




sounds like something a racis would say



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As a Canadian, the reason we are so interested in US politics is because our politics are super boring. We have nothing going on here that is interesting honestly.




yall should stop being so fucking apologetic and start a good, old fashioned land war

take over greenland or something. i bet they have shitloads of oil, and you fuckers are used to being cold anyways. greenland is a perfect place for you to take control of

invading a country will also get you some legit props from the US


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Re: Anchor Babies [Re: Adolin] * 1
    #22124085 - 08/21/15 07:36 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

They all need to deported, the days of illegals and their anchor babies are coming to an end.


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Re: Anchor Babies [Re: qman]
    #22124090 - 08/21/15 07:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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They all need to deported, the days of illegals and their anchor babies are coming to an end.




That would result in a humanitarian crisis and probably would be remembered by history as a re-enactment of the Trail of Tears or as another Holocaust. Even if we were to abandon our national conscience to such an extent as to actually succeed at a mission like that, it would devastate the economy. This is a bad idea in every possible way.


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Re: Anchor Babies [Re: Adolin] * 3
    #22124100 - 08/21/15 07:40 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I have found that babies don't make good anchors because they float.


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Re: Anchor Babies [Re: Sun King]
    #22124102 - 08/21/15 07:40 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

That's actually a really good point.


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Re: Anchor Babies [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22124109 - 08/21/15 07:42 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

When trump gets sworn in as president, he will take care of that pronto. In fact soon as he wins the election despite illegals voting and dems voting 2 or 3 times each, most illegals will head for the border rather than wait for it.

Then the good times will return. Even the moonbats will grudgingly admit there are many more jobs without the illegals.


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Re: Anchor Babies [Re: Sun King]
    #22124113 - 08/21/15 07:42 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I have found that babies don't make good anchors because they float.



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Re: Anchor Babies [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22124126 - 08/21/15 07:44 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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When trump gets sworn in as president, he will take care of that pronto. In fact soon as he wins the election despite illegals voting and dems voting 2 or 3 times each, most illegals will head for the border rather than wait for it.

Then the good times will return. Even the moonbats will grudgingly admit there are many more jobs without the illegals.




The only good times Trump brings us are laughing at people who are so deluded they actually think he has a snowball's chance in hell of winning


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Re: Anchor Babies [Re: Sun King]
    #22124132 - 08/21/15 07:45 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Not if you tie a brick to them.

Anchor babies are here to stay.  You would have to amend the Constitution to get rid of them.  But I posit that just because your baby is a citizen does not mean that your illegal invader ass can't be deported post haste.  Whether you take the baby with you or not is not my concern.  Get the fuck out cheating scum.


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Re: Anchor Babies [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22124135 - 08/21/15 07:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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When trump gets sworn in as president, he will take care of that pronto. In fact soon as he wins the election despite illegals voting and dems voting 2 or 3 times each, most illegals will head for the border rather than wait for it.

Then the good times will return. Even the moonbats will grudgingly admit there are many more jobs without the illegals.




do you actually think trump could be elected, or is that a joke? i cant tell  :aweohyou:

not that i 'hate' trump or anything. its just silly thinking he could be elected in 2016


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Re: Anchor Babies [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #22124139 - 08/21/15 07:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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When trump gets sworn in as president, he will take care of that pronto. In fact soon as he wins the election despite illegals voting and dems voting 2 or 3 times each, most illegals will head for the border rather than wait for it.

Then the good times will return. Even the moonbats will grudgingly admit there are many more jobs without the illegals.




The only good times Trump brings us are laughing at idiots who actually think he has a snowball's chance in hell of winning



Yeah.  They're pretty much as deluded as the people who think Bernie Sanders can win.


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Re: Anchor Babies [Re: Adolin]
    #22124142 - 08/21/15 07:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

It's not intended as a joke, but I'm still laughing. :lol:


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Re: Anchor Babies [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #22124165 - 08/21/15 07:53 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

i never even heard the term before this thread, so i said no. i never even knew this much of an issue other than like a decade ago or so when some cuban kid got separate from his parents because he was born here and his parents where illegals.

not sure how i feel about it. maybe the parents should have some say so at least they are held accountable when they have to go home and their child is already home.


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Re: Anchor Babies [Re: SurReality]
    #22124178 - 08/21/15 07:55 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

That wasn't what the Elian Gonzales case was about at all.


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Re: Anchor Babies [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22124208 - 08/21/15 08:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I think that having child just so you can get citizenship makes you a scumbag and a low life to be honest. I'm not trying to sound prejudice but those kinds of people come off as so desperate and (strangely enough I can't even find a word other then this to describe them) subhuman. People who come here and don't learn the language and take the easy route pretty much disgust me and I view them as scummy desperate people.

I don't think it's offensive. It's a proper name for people who take the easy route and are that desperate.


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Re: Anchor Babies [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #22124224 - 08/21/15 08:02 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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They all need to deported, the days of illegals and their anchor babies are coming to an end.




That would result in a humanitarian crisis and probably would be remembered by history as a re-enactment of the Trail of Tears or as another Holocaust. Even if we were to abandon our national conscience to such an extent as to actually succeed at a mission like that, it would devastate the economy. This is a bad idea in every possible way.




"it would devastate the economy"

:huxleyfacepalm:  Yeah, the 50 million US citizens without employment could never fill the void.

You don't know what the fuck you're talking about, they broke the law and need to return back to their homelands. Life gets better in the US when the parasites leave the host.


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Re: Anchor Babies [Re: Janky Tits]
    #22124232 - 08/21/15 08:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I'm not sure anybody actually does that. People have kids for a huge number of reasons and it's very complicated. The use of the term "anchor babies" seems to imply that undocumented immigrants are inhuman and evil, that they have no soul and no personal existence outside of their status of being undocumented, that they would never have children for the same reasons as a naturalized citizen or a documented immigrant. Fuck everybody who talks this racist bullshit.


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Re: Anchor Babies [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #22124247 - 08/21/15 08:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

It has nothing to do with race.  There are anchor babies of all color.  The problem is that we allow the parents to stay just because their kid was born here.  Kick the parents out for cause and we'll see if the baby stays.


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    #22124276 - 08/21/15 08:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I'm not sure anybody actually does that. People have kids for a huge number of reasons and it's very complicated. The use of the word "anchor babies" seems to imply that undocumented immigrants are evil and soulless, that they have no existence outside of their status of being undocumented, that they would never have children for the same reasons as a naturalized citizen or a documented immigrant. Fuck everybody who uses this racist-ass fucking term.




"racist-ass fucking term"

That's very presumptuous on your part, what's racist about it?  There's Asians, Europeans, and Hispanics that are abusing this policy.


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Re: Anchor Babies [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #22124295 - 08/21/15 08:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I agree that a lot of people on here are being pretty racist. It's weird how only Mexicans and Hispanics are being targeted.

I'm not an anchor baby but my mom did come here illegally. It's complicated, my mothers family came from the USSR/Russia to El Slavador and then decided to immigrate to the US. But they had to do it illegally and then they got their papers and shit and became legal. Technically speaking I'm like one step above an anchor baby I guess if that makes sense.

Still my point is it does seem that there is a bias towards Hispanics here. I'm pretty sure nobody would be saying shit if it was Scandinavians or Irish people immigrating to the US in large numbers and having anchor babies left  and right. Yeah Mexican immigration is getting out of hand but I think people have more of a problem with them because they are brown and don't speak english and Americans can be pretty xenophobic and so clearly they dont like it :/

Still if you are undocumented it makes you kind of shitty for not doing things the right way and being so desperate and useless to your own country that you had to leave. Mexicans and Hispanics gotta start figuring shit out.

I think my mom is kind of scummy for coming here illegally to be honest. She maybe could of done it a different way but oh well she and me are here now so who cares:shrug:


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Re: Anchor Babies [Re: qman]
    #22124305 - 08/21/15 08:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Saying racist is the knee jerk reaction of the far left to any reasonable idea.

Gresh, yes I'm serious, I think he can win. He is starting to draw larger crowds than Bernie is. What the hell is bernies platform anyway? No one seems to know. Trump puts it right out there for you.

Old zap will have apoplexy when trump wins. He will get over it when he sees all the good trump is doing and then wish he had voted for him. Trump will be reelected in a huge landslide. But first he has to get past the media, get past the illegals voting and voting more than once. Why do you think the dems and loony left are so against voter id?


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Re: Anchor Babies [Re: Janky Tits]
    #22124328 - 08/21/15 08:22 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I might direct your attention to previous history decrying the influx of Italian and Irish.

Message to illegals:

It has nothing to do with race.  You cheat you get kicked out.  Take your American born baby with you if you have to or leave him/her with legal relatives.  But you are fucking out out out.  I don't give a fuck what country you came from or if you go back to it.  Just get the fuck out of mine you lying cheating scumbag.


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Re: Anchor Babies [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22124346 - 08/21/15 08:25 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Saying racist is the knee jerk reaction of the far left to any reasonable idea.

Gresh, yes I'm serious, I think he can win. He is starting to draw larger crowds than Bernie is. What the hell is bernies platform anyway? No one seems to know. Trump puts it right out there for you.

Old zap will have apoplexy when trump wins. He will get over it when he sees all the good trump is doing and then wish he had voted for him. Trump will be reelected in a huge landslide. But first he has to get past the media, get past the illegals voting and voting more than once. Why do you think the dems and loony left are so against voter id?



You don't know what Bernie's platform is?  This disqualifies you from ever opining on politics.  I've known Bernie's platform for years.  He's a socialist whackjob.

Trump has no shot at winning the general unless Bernie is his opponent.  This will not happen.  Trump is only leading because the field is so huge and he has more name recognition.  He is also an asshole of the highest order.


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    #22124373 - 08/21/15 08:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Don't canadians elect their leader in a hockey shootout?





the US should take a cue from them only it should be a real shoot out

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    #22124416 - 08/21/15 08:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

This is a terrible idea.  It would guarantee that only a Californian could be president


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Re: Anchor Babies [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22124421 - 08/21/15 08:45 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

>You don't know what Bernie's platform is?  This disqualifies you from ever opining on politics.  I've known Bernie's platform for years.  He's a socialist whackjob.

If that's all you know then you know nothing. I've been trying to find his platform but not even his biggest fan can come up with it.

>Trump has no shot at winning the general unless Bernie is his opponent.

He has an excellent chance, particularly if Bernie is his opponent which is why I'm rooting for Bernie on the dem side.

>Trump is only leading because the field is so huge and he has more name recognition

It seems to be working much to your dismay. Will you kill yourself if he wins the general election?


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Re: Anchor Babies [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22124433 - 08/21/15 08:48 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Saying racist is the knee jerk reaction of the far left to any reasonable idea.

Gresh, yes I'm serious, I think he can win. He is starting to draw larger crowds than Bernie is. What the hell is bernies platform anyway? No one seems to know. Trump puts it right out there for you.

Old zap will have apoplexy when trump wins. He will get over it when he sees all the good trump is doing and then wish he had voted for him. Trump will be reelected in a huge landslide. But first he has to get past the media, get past the illegals voting and voting more than once. Why do you think the dems and loony left are so against voter id?




You know, I get called racist by conservatives around here far more often than I call anybody else a racist. I'm pretty sure YOU have fucking called me a racist before, Stonehenge, for acknowledging that systems of oppression exist in this country which hamper the progress of racial minorities.

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Re: Anchor Babies [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22124443 - 08/21/15 08:50 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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This is a terrible idea.  It would guarantee that only a Californian could be president





actually new mexico, texas and arizona stand the best chances because they dont
have the high capacity magazine restrictions, besides, the last californian we
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Re: Anchor Babies [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 1
    #22124447 - 08/21/15 08:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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You know, I get called racist by conservatives around here far more often than I call anybody else a racist





there's a pretty damn good reason for that


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    #22124453 - 08/21/15 08:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, conservatives obviously think they can win any argument by saying "racist".


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    #22124457 - 08/21/15 08:52 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Yeah, conservatives obviously think they can win any argument by saying "racist".





you mean the way liberals toss it around thinking that wins an argument


seems like now you know the reason

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    #22124463 - 08/21/15 08:53 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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>You don't know what Bernie's platform is?  This disqualifies you from ever opining on politics.  I've known Bernie's platform for years.  He's a socialist whackjob.

If that's all you know then you know nothing. I've been trying to find his platform but not even his biggest fan can come up with it.




What could be clearer?  He has been spouting his socialist redistributionist bullshit for years.  What about that do you fail to understand? 
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>Trump has no shot at winning the general unless Bernie is his opponent.

He has an excellent chance, particularly if Bernie is his opponent which is why I'm rooting for Bernie on the dem side.


  He has a shot in the general only if Bernie is the opponent.  And he won't be
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>Trump is only leading because the field is so huge and he has more name recognition

It seems to be working much to your dismay. Will you kill yourself if he wins the general election?




You really can't follow a point, can you?  As the field shrinks, and it will, he will lose his lead.  If he gets the nomination look forward to 4 years of Hillary.  Don't forget, the delegates do not always have to vote for the candidate they are pledged to after the first ballot.

Also, he is a scumbag.


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    #22124465 - 08/21/15 08:54 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

IMO almost everybody is racist. I almost never call people racist, I call ways of thinking and acting racist. And not even that much, at that. I find better ways to say it that don't involve using language to which you folks are apparently deeply sensitive


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    #22124468 - 08/21/15 08:55 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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    #22124478 - 08/21/15 08:57 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

>He has been spouting his socialist redistributionist bullshit for years.

Right, but that is not a platform. To a caveman it might be but we want facts and details.

>He has a shot in the general only if Bernie is the opponent.  And he won't be

Do you really think hitlery will get the nomination? Trump will have a harder time against the bitch but she is going down like a parachutist who forgot to open the shute. Obumble is getting his revenge. It has progressed to the point it would be very hard to stop the process now. She is probably in panic mode right now. :laugh:

You really should keep up with things. BTW

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    #22124501 - 08/21/15 09:03 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

man it would be nice if all the illegals got kicked out

so much less traffic in every sense of the word...no long ass lines

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Re: Anchor Babies [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #22124504 - 08/21/15 09:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Saying racist is the knee jerk reaction of the far left to any reasonable idea.

Gresh, yes I'm serious, I think he can win. He is starting to draw larger crowds than Bernie is. What the hell is bernies platform anyway? No one seems to know. Trump puts it right out there for you.

Old zap will have apoplexy when trump wins. He will get over it when he sees all the good trump is doing and then wish he had voted for him. Trump will be reelected in a huge landslide. But first he has to get past the media, get past the illegals voting and voting more than once. Why do you think the dems and loony left are so against voter id?




You know, I get called racist by conservatives around here far more often than I call anybody else a racist. I'm pretty sure YOU have fucking called me a racist before, Stonehenge, for acknowledging that systems of oppression exist in this country which hamper the progress of racial minorities.

Won't somebody please think of the white men?! :aweman:



I don't recall ever seeing anyone but me call you a racist. To be honest, I think you are. Has nothing to do with political affiliations, if I even did define myself by something that ridiculous. It's because no matter what the facts of any "racial" post are, you just come in to blame the white guy, 100% of the time. You don't look at facts and judge the situation on those facts. You just go by skin color. That makes you a racist.

Also I've seen you call plenty of people racist. Far more than I ever recall you being called one yourself.


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    #22124505 - 08/21/15 09:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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>He has been spouting his socialist redistributionist bullshit for years.

Right, but that is not a platform. To a caveman it might be but we want facts and details.




Like you have gotten from whom?  Nothing comes until after the convention and even then it is nebulous bullshit.  Remember when Obama said he opposed homos marrying?  Look at the man's body of work.  It tells you all you need to know.  Actions speak louder than words. 
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>He has a shot in the general only if Bernie is the opponent.  And he won't be

Do you really think hitlery will get the nomination? Trump will have a harder time against the bitch but she is going down like a parachutist who forgot to open the shute. Obumble is getting his revenge. It has progressed to the point it would be very hard to stop the process now. She is probably in panic mode right now. :laugh:





Who is gonna beat her if she isn't arrested?  Slo Joe?  It aint gonna be Bernie.
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You really should keep up with things. BTW




If you think you are more informed than me you are severely delusional and should get help immediately.  Go to a critical care facility.
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>Will you kill yourself if he wins the general election?




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    #22124518 - 08/21/15 09:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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IMO almost everybody is racist.




IMO, everyone is a racist, the worst are the ones that say they arent

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I find better ways to say it that don't involve using language to which you folks are apparently deeply sensitive





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    #22124524 - 08/21/15 09:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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    #22124532 - 08/21/15 09:10 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Well lets look at the facts and see who is the deluded moron and who is right. Here is a recent poll and trump is doing better and better. Looks like you win the booby prize.

http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-polls-republicans-winnning-365199

Republican Donald Trump is pulling away from the pack in the race for the party's U.S. presidential nomination, widening his lead over his closest rivals in the past week, a Reuters/Ipsos poll showed on Friday.

Republican voters show no signs they are growing weary of the brash real estate mogul, who has dominated political headlines and the 17-strong Republican presidential field with his tough talk about immigration and insults directed at his political rivals. The candidates are vying to be nominated to represent their party in the November 2016 general election.

Nearly 32 percent of Republicans surveyed online said they backed Trump, up from 24 percent a week earlier, the opinion poll found. Trump had nearly double the support of his closest competitor, former Florida Governor Jeb Bush, who got 16 percent. Retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson was third at 8 percent.


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    #22124538 - 08/21/15 09:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Saying racist is the knee jerk reaction of the far left to any reasonable idea.

Gresh, yes I'm serious, I think he can win. He is starting to draw larger crowds than Bernie is. What the hell is bernies platform anyway? No one seems to know. Trump puts it right out there for you.

Old zap will have apoplexy when trump wins. He will get over it when he sees all the good trump is doing and then wish he had voted for him. Trump will be reelected in a huge landslide. But first he has to get past the media, get past the illegals voting and voting more than once. Why do you think the dems and loony left are so against voter id?




You know, I get called racist by conservatives around here far more often than I call anybody else a racist. I'm pretty sure YOU have fucking called me a racist before, Stonehenge, for acknowledging that systems of oppression exist in this country which hamper the progress of racial minorities.

Won't somebody please think of the white men?! :aweman:



I don't recall ever seeing anyone but me call you a racist. To be honest, I think you are. Has nothing to do with political affiliations, if I even did define myself by something that ridiculous. It's because no matter what the facts of any "racial" post are, you just come in to blame the white guy, 100% of the time. You don't look at facts and judge the situation on those facts. You just go by skin color. That makes you a racist.




That is not true. I just realize the obvious fact that minorities are more often singled out for suspicion and abuse by the police, among many others in society. Even minority cops are more likely to target minorities, so I don't exclusively blame white people for this. I have my own reasons for distrusting cops aside from this so it's not like I don't have my own personal motivations for speaking negatively about the police.

And, you are DEFINITELY not the only person on this board who has ever called me a racist against white people, just for acknowledging that racism is alive and well in this country. It happens quite often, I lost count a long time ago. That wasn't Pris's first time and I'm pretty sure ZiG has done it as well. If you check my ratings you will see one DieCommie recently called me a "disgusting racist". IMO the notion of racism against white people in the US is patently absurd. It doesn't fucking exist. If it did exist anywhere, it would exist where I have lived my whole life, here in the Bay Area, and I have never been targeted for ANY kind of institutional discrimination based on my skin color. Even if anti-white racism did exist, I wouldn't be a racist just for focusing on the forms of racism which obviously do exist.


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    #22124540 - 08/21/15 09:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

oh boy, we need more welfare, oh no we need more money, no we need to get rid of the Mexican's.

same problems for years and years and no one does anything.

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BlindSophist said:
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Saying racist is the knee jerk reaction of the far left to any reasonable idea.

Gresh, yes I'm serious, I think he can win. He is starting to draw larger crowds than Bernie is. What the hell is bernies platform anyway? No one seems to know. Trump puts it right out there for you.

Old zap will have apoplexy when trump wins. He will get over it when he sees all the good trump is doing and then wish he had voted for him. Trump will be reelected in a huge landslide. But first he has to get past the media, get past the illegals voting and voting more than once. Why do you think the dems and loony left are so against voter id?




You know, I get called racist by conservatives around here far more often than I call anybody else a racist. I'm pretty sure YOU have fucking called me a racist before, Stonehenge, for acknowledging that systems of oppression exist in this country which hamper the progress of racial minorities.

Won't somebody please think of the white men?! :aweman:



I don't recall ever seeing anyone but me call you a racist. To be honest, I think you are. Has nothing to do with political affiliations, if I even did define myself by something that ridiculous. It's because no matter what the facts of any "racial" post are, you just come in to blame the white guy, 100% of the time. You don't look at facts and judge the situation on those facts. You just go by skin color. That makes you a racist.




That is not true. I just realize the obvious fact that minorities are more often singled out for suspicion and abuse by the police, among many others in society. Even minority cops are more likely to target minorities, so I don't exclusively blame white people for this. I have my own reasons for distrusting cops aside from this so it's not like I don't have my own personal motivations for speaking negatively about the police.

And, you are DEFINITELY not the only person on this board who has ever called me a racist against white people, just for acknowledging that racism is alive and well in this country. It happens quite often, I lost count a long time ago. IMO the notion of racism against white people in the US is patently absurd. It doesn't fucking exist. If it did exist anywhere, it would exist where I live, and I have never been targeted for ANY kind of discrimination based on my skin color. Even if anti-white racism did exist, I wouldn't be a racist just for focusing on the forms of racism which obviously do exist.




Racism is alive and well.  Both ways, baby. 

Do you know why cops fuck with young Negro males more often?  Because they kill and rape and rob in far disproportionate numbers.  All young males are suspects and young Negro males especially so.  Ignoring that fact is just as stupid as randomly pulling a grandmother over for an extra search at the airport for some race/gender/age quota thing


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Saying racist is the knee jerk reaction of the far left to any reasonable idea.

Gresh, yes I'm serious, I think he can win. He is starting to draw larger crowds than Bernie is. What the hell is bernies platform anyway? No one seems to know. Trump puts it right out there for you.

Old zap will have apoplexy when trump wins. He will get over it when he sees all the good trump is doing and then wish he had voted for him. Trump will be reelected in a huge landslide. But first he has to get past the media, get past the illegals voting and voting more than once. Why do you think the dems and loony left are so against voter id?




You know, I get called racist by conservatives around here far more often than I call anybody else a racist. I'm pretty sure YOU have fucking called me a racist before, Stonehenge, for acknowledging that systems of oppression exist in this country which hamper the progress of racial minorities.

Won't somebody please think of the white men?! :aweman:



I don't recall ever seeing anyone but me call you a racist. To be honest, I think you are. Has nothing to do with political affiliations, if I even did define myself by something that ridiculous. It's because no matter what the facts of any "racial" post are, you just come in to blame the white guy, 100% of the time. You don't look at facts and judge the situation on those facts. You just go by skin color. That makes you a racist.




That is not true. I just realize the obvious fact that minorities are more often singled out for suspicion and abuse by the police, among many others in society. Even minority cops are more likely to target minorities, so I don't exclusively blame white people for this. I have my own reasons for distrusting cops aside from this so it's not like I don't have my own personal motivations for speaking negatively about the police.

And, you are DEFINITELY not the only person on this board who has ever called me a racist against white people, just for acknowledging that racism is alive and well in this country. It happens quite often, I lost count a long time ago. IMO the notion of racism against white people in the US is patently absurd. It doesn't fucking exist. If it did exist anywhere, it would exist where I live, and I have never been targeted for ANY kind of discrimination based on my skin color. Even if anti-white racism did exist, I wouldn't be a racist just for focusing on the forms of racism which obviously do exist.



It is true. As a prime example, the thread awhile back about a gang of black people jumping a single white guy. It was quite obvious who the wrong doers were, yet you came in and acted as if it was somehow the white guys fault. It's my opinion you're a racist and it's unlikely to change in the future. Doesn't have to do with your crusading to bring social injustice to light. It's because the white person is somehow always at fault. I'm pretty sure you even refused to acknowledge that the media slants these racial issues in favor of black people, to such an extreme that anytime white on black stuff happens it's in the title and said multiple times throughout the article, but the other way around it's never mentioned once. Actually I think you called me a racist for being willing to acknowledge this along with your usual partner in crime, koods. If you didn't flat out state it, you most definitely stated things in such a way to heavily suggest it.


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    #22124581 - 08/21/15 09:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Zap, how do you like the fact trump is pulling farther and farther ahead despite your predictions?


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    #22124584 - 08/21/15 09:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Even if that's true, it doesn't justify the police using greater force or taking the "guilty until proven innocent" sort of approach that they often do with minorities.


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It is true. As a prime example, the thread awhile back about a gang of black people jumping a single white guy. It was quite obvious who the wrong doers were, yet you came in and acted as if it was somehow the white guys fault. It's my opinion you're a racist and it's unlikely to change in the future. Doesn't have to do with your crusading to bring social injustice to light. It's because the white person is somehow always at fault. I'm pretty sure you even refused to acknowledge that the media slants these racial issues in favor of black people, to such an extreme that anytime white on black stuff happens it's in the title and said multiple times throughout the article, but the other way around it's never mentioned once. Actually I think you called me a racist for being willing to acknowledge this along with your usual partner in crime, koods. If you didn't flat out state it, you most definitely stated things in such a way to heavily suggest it.




I just don't care about that sort of thing. I don't comb the news for stories about white people misbehaving, do I? Again, my beef isn't with white people, it's with the police, and other institutions and social norms which are demonstrably biased against minorities, and you apparently have a beef with that. I can't be sure why, but I have got a possible explanation that I'll just keep to myself.


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Zap, how do you like the fact trump is pulling farther and farther ahead despite your predictions?



I think it is meaningless.  When the rest of the field gets winnowed down he will fade.  I believe he has topped out.


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I don't comb for stories either. Do you just not click on news stories on the internet that pop up in Yahoo and the like?


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    #22124620 - 08/21/15 09:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Stonehenge, do you remember the 2012 republican primary at all? Do you remember how almost every nominee had at least a few weeks at the head of the polls, even the really crazy ones that in retrospect didn't stand a chance?


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I don't comb for stories either. Do you just not click on news stories on the internet that pop up in Yahoo and the like?




I don't Yahoo!.


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And the like. You don't have to Yahoo. There's AOL, MSN and any number of other pages.


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    #22124628 - 08/21/15 09:32 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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oh boy, we need more welfare, oh no we need more money, no we need to get rid of the Mexican's.

same problems for years and years and no one does anything.

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Even if that's true, it doesn't justify the police using greater force or taking the "guilty until proven innocent" sort of approach that they often do with minorities.



They do the same with everybody.  They are by nature suspicious because of what they encounter.  If you were a cop you would do the same thing after you saw what they see.
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Furthermore, rarely, if ever, will those who bemoan such things as the percentage of Blacks incarcerated mention that almost all of the crimes committed by these prisoners were against other Black people.

Despite the impression one would get from reading Conservative blogs, with their incessant postings about “Black thugs,” Black crime — like all crime — is nearly exclusively intraracial. 93% of the Black murderers imprisoned murdered other Blacks, 74.8% of the Black rapists rape Black women. And 68.3% of the Blacks robbed are robbed by Blacks as well.




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Saying racist is the knee jerk reaction of the far left to any reasonable idea.

Gresh, yes I'm serious, I think he can win. He is starting to draw larger crowds than Bernie is. What the hell is bernies platform anyway? No one seems to know. Trump puts it right out there for you.

Old zap will have apoplexy when trump wins. He will get over it when he sees all the good trump is doing and then wish he had voted for him. Trump will be reelected in a huge landslide. But first he has to get past the media, get past the illegals voting and voting more than once. Why do you think the dems and loony left are so against voter id?




You know, I get called racist by conservatives around here far more often than I call anybody else a racist. I'm pretty sure YOU have fucking called me a racist before, Stonehenge, for acknowledging that systems of oppression exist in this country which hamper the progress of racial minorities.

Won't somebody please think of the white men?! :aweman:



I don't recall ever seeing anyone but me call you a racist. To be honest, I think you are. Has nothing to do with political affiliations, if I even did define myself by something that ridiculous. It's because no matter what the facts of any "racial" post are, you just come in to blame the white guy, 100% of the time. You don't look at facts and judge the situation on those facts. You just go by skin color. That makes you a racist.




That is not true. I just realize the obvious fact that minorities are more often singled out for suspicion and abuse by the police, among many others in society. Even minority cops are more likely to target minorities, so I don't exclusively blame white people for this. I have my own reasons for distrusting cops aside from this so it's not like I don't have my own personal motivations for speaking negatively about the police.

And, you are DEFINITELY not the only person on this board who has ever called me a racist against white people, just for acknowledging that racism is alive and well in this country. It happens quite often, I lost count a long time ago. That wasn't Pris's first time and I'm pretty sure ZiG has done it as well. If you check my ratings you will see one DieCommie recently called me a "disgusting racist". IMO the notion of racism against white people in the US is patently absurd. It doesn't fucking exist. If it did exist anywhere, it would exist where I have lived my whole life, here in the Bay Area, and I have never been targeted for ANY kind of institutional discrimination based on my skin color. Even if anti-white racism did exist, I wouldn't be a racist just for focusing on the forms of racism which obviously do exist.




"Even if anti-white racism did exist, I wouldn't be a racist"

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    #22124643 - 08/21/15 09:37 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I'm not convinced that the disproportionate incarceration isn't due to disproportionate enforcement by the police.


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"Even if anti-white racism did exist, I wouldn't be a racist"

That's the exact hypocrisy white liberals use, thank you for pointing it out.




I don't fear, hate or distrust white people. Because I am a white person, I mostly associate and live with other white people. My life would be very inconvenient indeed if I did hate white people. It does not make me "racist against white people" to talk about institutional racism which targets people who are not white. This is not what racism is.


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Saying racist is the knee jerk reaction of the far left to any reasonable idea.

Gresh, yes I'm serious, I think he can win. He is starting to draw larger crowds than Bernie is. What the hell is bernies platform anyway? No one seems to know. Trump puts it right out there for you.

Old zap will have apoplexy when trump wins. He will get over it when he sees all the good trump is doing and then wish he had voted for him. Trump will be reelected in a huge landslide. But first he has to get past the media, get past the illegals voting and voting more than once. Why do you think the dems and loony left are so against voter id?




"What the hell is bernies platform anyways?"

It's all here- https://berniesanders.com/issues/

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    #22124679 - 08/21/15 09:44 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Stonehenge, do you remember the 2012 republican primary at all? Do you remember how almost every nominee had at least a few weeks at the head of the polls, even the really crazy ones that in retrospect didn't stand a chance?





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oh boy, we need more welfare, oh no we need more money, no we need to get rid of the Mexican's.

same problems for years and years and no one does anything.

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Stonehenge, do you remember the 2012 republican primary at all? Do you remember how almost every nominee had at least a few weeks at the head of the polls, even the really crazy ones that in retrospect didn't stand a chance?





like bernie sanders in this election




Not comparable. There were like at least five different nominees who were considered "front runners" before they landed on the blandest, least-offensive available choice. Trump is only the first of what I am sure will be many "Republican front runners" in the next year.


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"Even if anti-white racism did exist, I wouldn't be a racist"

That's the exact hypocrisy white liberals use, thank you for pointing it out.




I don't hate or distrust white people. I am a white person, I mostly associate and live with other white people. It does not make me "racist against white people" to talk about institutional racism which does not target white people. This is not what racism is.




Some people hate their own race, sex, culture, ethnicity, religious background, ect.  Just because someone claims to be "one of them", it doesn't make them immune from being a bigot towards that same group. I'm sorry, but that rational doesn't pass the test.


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You have no idea what racism is.


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    #22124710 - 08/21/15 09:50 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Thats incredibly racist.


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I'm not convinced that the disproportionate incarceration isn't due to disproportionate enforcement by the police.





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Thats incredibly racist.




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You have no idea what racism is.




I know, due to the fact that I'm white, I'll never know "what racism is", thank you PC Police. :doublefacepalm:


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You wont, thers literally no such thing as white racism.


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You have no idea what racism is.




I know, due to the fact that I'm white, I'll never know "what racism is", thank you PC Police. :doublefacepalm:




I said that based on the functional ignorance you are demonstrating. Nothing I say suggests that I fear, hate, or distrust white people. I also have no way of knowing what race you are just from your posts.

I distrust police. The racial makeup of the police reflects the that of the country at large. I hate a black cop as much as I hate a white cop. You can debate the merits of that sentiment all you wish, but the police are not a race and they should not work to advance the interests of the white race at the expense of others.

Is that a racist thing to say, that whites shouldn't get preferential treatment from the police and other government institutions? Does it mean that I hate whites when I point out the reality that many blacks fear the police whether they are committing a crime or not? Maybe we should agree that nobody should have to fear the police unless they are trying to get away with a serious crime which impinges upon the freedoms of others, but that is not the reality we live with.


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You have no idea what racism is.




I know, due to the fact that I'm white, I'll never know "what racism is", thank you PC Police. :doublefacepalm:




I said that based on the functional ignorance you are demonstrating. Nothing I say suggests that I fear, hate, or distrust white people. I also have no way of knowing what race you are just from your posts.

I distrust police. The racial makeup of the police reflects the that of the country at large. I hate a black cop as much as I hate a white cop. You can debate the merits of that sentiment all you wish, but the police are not a race and they should not work to advance the interests of the white race at the expense of others.

Is that a racist thing to say, that whites shouldn't get preferential treatment from the police and other government institutions? Does it mean that I hate whites when I point out the reality that many blacks fear the police whether they are committing a crime or not? Maybe we should agree that nobody should have to fear the police unless they are trying to get away with a serious crime which impinges upon the freedoms of others, but that is not the reality we live with.




"whites shouldn't get preferential treatment from...government institutions"

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Is that a racist thing to say, that whites shouldn't get preferential treatment from the police and other government institutions?





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    #22126048 - 08/22/15 09:06 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I do not find the term offensive but it is not politically correct. The definition of it is very appropriate though.


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Is that a racist thing to say, that whites shouldn't get preferential treatment from the police and other government institutions?





so what preferential treatment do whites get from the cops




lol statistically this is indisputable man. even in my own experience i have gotten better treatment where i have lived than what i have witnesses occur to minorities. seriously i'm lucky to have not caught a felony from my run ins with the police (and i am white).

not every time have i been treated great, i'm somewhat lucky to have not been guilty of any serious charges in those situations.


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    #22126133 - 08/22/15 09:39 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I had to google what an anchor-baby is.

I don't think it's an offensive term but if someone uses it, I'll certainly be aware to not consider them a human being worth listening to in the future.

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"Citizen children cannot sponsor parents for entry into the country until they are 21 years of age, and if the parent had ever been in the country illegally, they would have to show they had left and not returned for at least ten years[...]"

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so what preferential treatment do whites get from the cops




lol statistically this is indisputable man. even in my own experience i have gotten better treatment where i have lived than what i have witnesses occur to minorities. seriously i'm lucky to have not caught a felony from my run ins with the police (and i am white).

not every time have i been treated great, i'm somewhat lucky to have not been guilty of any serious charges in those situations.




The fact the blacks get arrested and convicted more often doesn't mean whites get preferential treatment, they COMMIT more CRIME.  The statistics that you find "indisputable" show this fact.


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    #22126154 - 08/22/15 09:49 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

committing a crime only means you are actually charged for it right? at least as far as keeping stats on it goes, you can't have a stat on people who get away with crimes lol


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    #22126168 - 08/22/15 09:52 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

>The fact the blacks get arrested and convicted more often doesn't mean whites get preferential treatment, they COMMIT more CRIME.  The statistics that you find "indisputable" show this fact.


Of course, how can anyone dispute that?

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>committing a crime only means you are actually charged for it right?

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committing a crime only means you are actually charged for it right? at least as far as keeping stats on it goes, you can't have a stat on people who get away with crimes lol




Are you suggesting the blacks are just bad criminals because they get caught and convicted at a higher rate than whites?  :lol:


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    #22126236 - 08/22/15 10:18 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

no i'm suggesting they are treated worse in similar cases. as i said i could have been stuck with a felony a couple times but the police let me go with a warning. i doubt that happens with people who aren't white often.

so no its not that they are "bad criminals" its just that they are not white criminals and are far less likely to get off on shit.


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    #22126242 - 08/22/15 10:20 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I think sr is telling us that negroes get caught more often because they are dumb criminals but whites are smarter and get away with it more. Is that what you are saying, sr?


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    #22126248 - 08/22/15 10:23 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

i think i just corrected that assumption, jerk


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Its funny how the far left always goes to personal attacks when their argument is defeated. It never fails.


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    #22126256 - 08/22/15 10:24 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Of course, how can anyone dispute that?






Pretty easily. Since the population of America is 80% white, white people commit the most crimes in this country. In fact, from recent data, whites account for about 62-69%% of crimes committed in the United States (I'm not even going to bother citing sources because people won't read them and it gets old having to explain the same shit over and over to drugged up neckbeards). Black Americans make up 13% of the population so I don't even know what magical math one would have to do to assume that we're committing "OMG ALL OF THE CRIMEZ!" There's literally not enough of us to come close to achieving this.

But the fact remains that, whites aren't profiled, charged, or arrested at nearly the rate that black Americans are. There have been plenty of surveys and academic studies that show this. It's pretty much a fact of life here; which is why I don't understand why some black people don't try to avoid that limelight as much as possible.

If you know the system is against you why the HELL would you give it a reason to fuck with you? Why are you mouthing off at the police? Why are you just doing dumb fuck-boi shit? How hard is it to set up something on a DNM if you want to sell drugs? (Interestingly enough, a lot of white men are doing this thereby committing a crime but I guess that crime doesn't count because you know #chadsjustprotectingfreedom)

But on the other hand, the black community has a serious problem with the rampant sexism and violence against black women and children that is completely ignored by most mainstream black leaders. Everyone wants to help DeShawn when he gets arrested but little to no one spoke up for a black mother gang-raped by a group of men from her own neighborhood. It's the tone of "when we do it to our own it's okay but when someone white does something it's a travesty." that sickens me.

So it's a fucking mess. The whole thing is a fucking mess. And at this point, while recognizing systemic racism within our country is nice, at some point, there needs to be some SERIOUS truth-telling in my community regarding the bullshit.


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    #22126267 - 08/22/15 10:27 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Its funny how the far left always goes to personal attacks when their argument is defeated. It never fails.




wtf i'm not even the "far left"

i thought you were just trolling me because i literally just explained why that is not what i was saying.


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    #22126441 - 08/22/15 11:20 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

To some racists everyone not racist is far-left and progressive.


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well one definition of racist is merely having the distinction between races and means nothing derogatory. so by that definition you would have to be blind and deaf in order to not be racist.


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    #22126571 - 08/22/15 12:02 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

>Since the population of America is 80% white,

False, that is bogus statistics which includes Hispanic in with whites.

>whites account for about 62-69%% of crimes committed in the United States

Again false for the same reason.

>I'm not even going to bother citing sources

Of course not, it would show your argument is false.

>Black Americans make up 13% of the population so I don't even know what magical math one would have to do to assume that we're committing "OMG ALL OF THE CRIMEZ!"

No one said negroes are committing "all" of the crimes, that is a typical strawman argument that the far left always pulls out of its ass. The truth is blacks commit a disproportionate amount of crime, several times as much per person as whites.


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Hispanics are white.


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Maybe in your mixed up world where you hire illegals so you can cut a few corners. To reasonable people, Hispanics are not the same as white. They commit a far higher level of crime than whites, for example.


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They are white.


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    #22126602 - 08/22/15 12:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Nope


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The truth is blacks commit a disproportionate amount of crime, several times as much per person as whites.




how can this data even be collected? the only thing you can base this on is charges/convictions.


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>how can this data even be collected? the only thing you can base this on is charges/convictions.

That is correct. The injustice dept under obumble has begun disguising the statistics to fool idiots into thinking, for example, that Hispanics are exactly the same as whites. They also conflate black crime with oriental crime which is much lower. So the white rate is artificially raised by mixing it with Hispanic rates, and the black rate is lowered by mixing it with orientals.


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    #22126647 - 08/22/15 12:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

you should probably reread my question. didn't answer my question at all. do you even know the difference between being convicted of a crime and merely committing one (ahem, not getting caught or even the police letting you off-never to be a statistic)


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    #22126673 - 08/22/15 12:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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>Since the population of America is 80% white,

False, that is bogus statistics which includes Hispanic in with whites.

>whites account for about 62-69%% of crimes committed in the United States

Again false for the same reason.

>I'm not even going to bother citing sources

Of course not, it would show your argument is false.

>Black Americans make up 13% of the population so I don't even know what magical math one would have to do to assume that we're committing "OMG ALL OF THE CRIMEZ!"

No one said negroes are committing "all" of the crimes, that is a typical strawman argument that the far left always pulls out of its ass. The truth is blacks commit a disproportionate amount of crime, several times as much per person as whites.




So were you going to address the rest of my post or just use the same mouth-breathing arguments I knew would eventually reveal themselves. Your opinions have been refuted many times over by individuals who have already published their research. Research that is readily available with a quick search through Google Scholar and like 20 minutes spent reading the abstract and summary.

I'm sure you'll ignore them however since it doesn't fit into your world view. Just as I'm going to ignore you because you're a waste of my time.


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    #22126699 - 08/22/15 12:40 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

>Your opinions have been refuted many times

Link to anything that refutes my facts? Oh, I see you use the moonbat technique of "go look for yourself and find something that proves my whacky theory"


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    #22126720 - 08/22/15 12:45 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

lol so you just ignore arguments you can't disprove or just respond with something what has nothing to do with what you respond to.
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    #22126778 - 08/22/15 01:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

You seem to have missed this

>Link to anything that refutes my facts? Oh, I see you use the moonbat technique of "go look for yourself and find something that proves my whacky theory"


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    #22126785 - 08/22/15 01:02 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

That's because he is here solely to provoke and derail the thread. Anyway, he has no opinions but simply regurgitates rants he has heard on Fox News. He ignores whatever facts are inconvenient to him.


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    #22126794 - 08/22/15 01:06 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Do you deny that Negroes disproportionatley commit crimes?  And that for the most part their victims are other Negroes?  Why do you hate Negroes?


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No to all three questions.


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You seem to have missed this

>Link to anything that refutes my facts? Oh, I see you use the moonbat technique of "go look for yourself and find something that proves my whacky theory"




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The truth is blacks commit a disproportionate amount of crime, several times as much per person as whites.




how can this data even be collected? the only thing you can base this on is charges/convictions.




Many crimes have victims that can identify their perpetrator, a disproportional amount of those identifications turn out to be black males, I know this is stunning news, but it's the truth.


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    #22127842 - 08/22/15 04:42 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

what about all the victimless crimes? considering most (i'm guessing, correct if i'm wrong) felonies the people are guilty and convicted of had no victim (ie drugs)


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    #22127871 - 08/22/15 04:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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No to all three questions.



Are you completely ignorant of crime statistics?  Willfully blind?  Does your cum covered vision prevent you from seeing reality?


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hey don't don't flame bukkake for having cum covered vision

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what about all the victimless crimes? considering most (i'm guessing, correct if i'm wrong) felonies the people are guilty and convicted of had no victim (ie drugs)




Are blacks unfairly treated by law enforcement when it comes to drug crimes?  No, the fact that many actively deal drugs in public view on a daily basis is their fault, not the police.

If they haven't figured out how to be discreet at this point, I don't have any hope for them.  Of course, they also rat each other out when they get caught.


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lol yea wow only black people do that and only non discrete dealers ever get busted.
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lol yea wow only black people do that and only non discrete dealers ever get busted.
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No one said "only black people do that". They just do it more than the other demographics, hence the higher arrest and conviction rates. This is rocket science dude, it's called basic commonsense. :facepalm:


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Yes, people should only be allowed citizenship after a test of skill and strength, like wrestling a bear or something




#america

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lol yea wow only black people do that and only non discrete dealers ever get busted.
:ohyeahdefinitely:




No one said "only black people do that". They just do it more than the other demographics, hence the higher arrest and conviction rates. This is rocket science dude, it's called basic commonsense. :facepalm:



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What part of police behavior do you think spurs them to beat their women, rape other women and murder each other?


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#america

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What is it about "negroes" (as you call them) that makes them predisposed to such behavior?


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What part of police behavior do you think spurs them to beat their women, rape other women and murder each other?




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lol yea wow only black people do that and only non discrete dealers ever get busted.
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No one said "only black people do that". They just do it more than the other demographics, hence the higher arrest and conviction rates. This is rocket science dude, it's called basic commonsense. :facepalm:



Do you believe that is because they are predisposed to doing so or because they are unfairly targeted by the police and judicial system? Or what?




The fact that they choose to do their obvious illegal activity in the wide open proves they are NOT unfairly targeted.


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lol yea wow only black people do that and only non discrete dealers ever get busted.
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No one said "only black people do that". They just do it more than the other demographics, hence the higher arrest and conviction rates. This is rocket science dude, it's called basic commonsense. :facepalm:



Do you believe that is because they are predisposed to doing so or because they are unfairly targeted by the police and judicial system? Or what?




The fact that they choose to do their obvious illegal activity in the wide open proves they are NOT unfairly targeted.




i don't think anyone is claiming that the situation you are speaking of is unfair, i certainly am not. but do you really think that those situations actually are the reason that the conviction rate is so disproportionate? is there anything to back this up, and how sure can you be facts backing that up are really as it claims (considering its information sourced from the police) although whether or source can be determined as accurate i would still be interested to see the stat showing the stats on people committing blatant crimes in the public eye...


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Hispanics are white.




Hispanics are brown.

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lol yea wow only black people do that and only non discrete dealers ever get busted.
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No one said "only black people do that". They just do it more than the other demographics, hence the higher arrest and conviction rates. This is rocket science dude, it's called basic commonsense. :facepalm:



Do you believe that is because they are predisposed to doing so or because they are unfairly targeted by the police and judicial system? Or what?




The fact that they choose to do their obvious illegal activity in the wide open proves they are NOT unfairly targeted.




This statement has absolutely no basis in reality, are you seriously suggesting that every black person out there who deals drugs does so out in the open in full view of everyone? Not only that but that theyre the only ones who do so? For no other reason then being black? :rolleyes:


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Yes, people should only be allowed citizenship after a test of skill and strength, like wrestling a bear or something




#america

I remember wrestling my first bear to get my birth certificate and ss number.




davy crockett killed a bear when he was 3 so we shouldnt discount this immediately




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    #22128194 - 08/22/15 06:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

i've heard some people claim the hispanics are from spain and are white. i think the brown one might be latino

idk maybe they are spaniards or just spanish? but what's the difference btwn latino and hispanic then?


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    #22128200 - 08/22/15 06:45 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Don't think there is a difference between those 2. Well latin being the states connected to mexico and hispanic being spanish? Fuck it i know or care. But it's called latin America so that would make sense.


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    #22128204 - 08/22/15 06:46 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Spain was conquered by the moors, a black people so they are mixed. Spain then conquered mexico and other countries mixing with the population.


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    #22128208 - 08/22/15 06:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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i've heard some people claim the hispanics are from spain and are white. i think the brown one might be latino

idk maybe they are spaniards or just spanish? but what's the difference btwn latino and hispanic then?




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lol yea wow only black people do that and only non discrete dealers ever get busted.
:ohyeahdefinitely:




No one said "only black people do that". They just do it more than the other demographics, hence the higher arrest and conviction rates. This is rocket science dude, it's called basic commonsense. :facepalm:



Do you believe that is because they are predisposed to doing so or because they are unfairly targeted by the police and judicial system? Or what?




The fact that they choose to do their obvious illegal activity in the wide open proves they are NOT unfairly targeted.




This statement has absolutely no basis in reality, are you seriously suggesting that every black person out there who deals drugs does so out in the open in full view of everyone? Not only that but that theyre the only ones who do so? For no other reason then being black? :rolleyes:




:facepalm:  They do it at a higher rate than the other demographics, therefore the higher arrest and conviction rate, I already mentioned this fact several times in this thread, trying reading the above.


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    #22128212 - 08/22/15 06:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I always thought hispanics was a term for people from Mexico. I figured latino was the general label for the broader countries.

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I always thought hispanics was a term for people from Mexico. I figured latino was the general label for the broader countries.

No idea though




Ya :shrug :

I got a little mexican blood in me but i have no clue what the "correct" meaning of the terms are.


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lol yea wow only black people do that and only non discrete dealers ever get busted.
:ohyeahdefinitely:




No one said "only black people do that". They just do it more than the other demographics, hence the higher arrest and conviction rates. This is rocket science dude, it's called basic commonsense. :facepalm:



Do you believe that is because they are predisposed to doing so or because they are unfairly targeted by the police and judicial system? Or what?




The fact that they choose to do their obvious illegal activity in the wide open proves they are NOT unfairly targeted.




i don't think anyone is claiming that the situation you are speaking of is unfair, i certainly am not. but do you really think that those situations actually are the reason that the conviction rate is so disproportionate? is there anything to back this up, and how sure can you be facts backing that up are really as it claims (considering its information sourced from the police) although whether or source can be determined as accurate i would still be interested to see the stat showing the stats on people committing blatant crimes in the public eye...




You do realize that whites are arrested, convicted, and sentenced for drug crimes.  The prisons are full of them, what's your beef?


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Here in Canada half the prison population is pretty much native people.


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    #22128247 - 08/22/15 06:57 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

my beef is that more whites probably get away with those crimes than other ethnicity's.  this is coming my own experiences as well as what i see in the world.

i've experienced the police letting me off on drug charges and other charges, tho not as serious, on more than one occasion. is there really any reason i should think i would have the same luck if i weren't white??


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    #22128250 - 08/22/15 06:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yep in Alaska it was the same or they were homeless. Even though they had so many benefits and oppurtinity. They just can't handle there alcohol. Europeans can't either but we can a lottle better.


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Yep in Alaska it was the same or they were homeless. Even though they had so many benefits and oppurtinity. They just can't handle there alcohol. Europeans can't either but we can a lottle better.




Listen, I am part native so I can say this. When native people get drunk, they get fucking blasted. Some native people can drink jugs of vodka and still be standing man they are insane. They drink until they are drunk and drink when they are barely conscious.

Like they just pound the liquor back man all bets are off. Like this is not for every native person but sometimes the stereotypes are true.


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    #22128269 - 08/22/15 07:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Can you bring up actual statistics that conclusively prove blacks deal out in the open at a higher rate then any other demographic. Not just dealing but being flagarent about it specifically since thats the claim you're making.


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    #22128270 - 08/22/15 07:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Alaska native?

I was born and raised for 22 years. I didnt get the benefits they did because i didnt have the blood. But i am a native alaskan that's my home.

Fucking pissed me off watching all that garbage and they're getting 20k dollar checks in the mail but still seeping on the street. Can't handle there alcohol.


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    #22128273 - 08/22/15 07:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

stereotypes are generally true. that's how they become stereotypes.


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    #22128278 - 08/22/15 07:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I am white but have some Cree blood running through my veins.

I have just seen really drunk natives up and down the streets in downtown all the time. Like the ratio is skewed and so is the ratio of native to white people in jail.


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my beef is that more whites probably get away with those crimes than other ethnicity's.  this is coming my own experiences as well as what i see in the world.

i've experienced the police letting me off on drug charges and other charges, tho not as serious, on more than one occasion. is there really any reason i should think i would have the same luck if i weren't white??




You're trying to make a case that since YOU were let off of a drug crime by police as a white person, whites are more likely to be let off for similar crimes by law enforcement, that's not evidence of anything. Every situation if different, stop trying to make board generalizations based on a few of your experiences.

We all know of tons of white people that have been arrested, convicted, and sentenced to prison for their drug crimes.


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    #22128286 - 08/22/15 07:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Can't handle there alcohol.





Thats actually genetic, we have no history with alcohol so we havent adapted to it like many other races out there with a long history of its use. We lack a lot of the enzymes that break down alcohol so naturally it fucks us up a lot worse then anyone else. Not that that really excuses anyones behaviors but it helps you understand them a little.


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    #22128294 - 08/22/15 07:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

i'm not trying to use it as evidence. because the evidence that would be needed would be impossible to come up with unless you were omnipotent and had the time to analyse everyone's personal experiences' with the police.

i'm not saying i completely believe one way or the other. i'm just basing my opinion that you are probably wrong on my own experience and what most people say and even show by recording their encounters with the police or other's encounter.


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Native people are drinking away their hardships for losing their land and traditions and stuff. :shrug:


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I am white but have some Cree blood running through my veins.

I have just seen really drunk natives up and down the streets in downtown all the time. Like the ratio is skewed and so is the ratio of native to white people in jail.


Canada is actually pretty racist and prejudice to Native people here. It is our dirty little secret




We were too but they don't do anything and were mad if you got a little native blood in you. 20k every couple months plus our dividends and more than enough for you to not be on the street.

Fuck i was working my ass off all the time theres so much oppurtinity why the fuck is it consinstently native people. It's disgusting


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Can't handle there alcohol.





Thats actually genetic, we have no history with alcohol so we havent adapted to it like many other races out there with a long history of its use. We lack a lot of the enzymes that break down alcohol so naturally it fucks us up a lot worse then anyone else. Not that that really excuses anyones behaviors but it helps you understand them a little.




And yep im mostly irish and polish. European. Absolutely.


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But i was born and raised in alaska. That is my home. Im no less an Alaska native than any of them


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But i was born and raised in alaska. That is my home. Im no less an Alaska native than any of them




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True storie.


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    #22128335 - 08/22/15 07:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Can you bring up actual statistics that conclusively prove blacks deal out in the open at a higher rate then any other demographic. Not just dealing but being flagarent about it specifically since thats the claim you're making.




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gangs_in_the_United_States

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    #22128339 - 08/22/15 07:23 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

dude gangs exist in most powerful countries.


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oh you, are you claiming the government is just another gang?
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When president trump is sworn in, he will toss the bums out on their ass. He will make usa great again.


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Re: Anchor Babies [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22128838 - 08/22/15 09:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I am not sure if you are trolling or serious.


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Re: Anchor Babies [Re: bukkake]
    #22130165 - 08/23/15 09:44 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

if he's trolling he's really sticking to it pretty hard, but i've asked him that earlier too.


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Re: Anchor Babies [Re: SurReality]
    #22130222 - 08/23/15 10:02 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

There's no troll, the vast majority of US citizens want illegals deported out of the country, why do you think Trump is leading in all of the polls? 

The people in power want an open border to bring in the cheap labor and to keep wages of ALL workers down, finally someone is calling them out on this issue.


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