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Re: Anchor Babies [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #22124570 - 08/21/15 09:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Saying racist is the knee jerk reaction of the far left to any reasonable idea.

Gresh, yes I'm serious, I think he can win. He is starting to draw larger crowds than Bernie is. What the hell is bernies platform anyway? No one seems to know. Trump puts it right out there for you.

Old zap will have apoplexy when trump wins. He will get over it when he sees all the good trump is doing and then wish he had voted for him. Trump will be reelected in a huge landslide. But first he has to get past the media, get past the illegals voting and voting more than once. Why do you think the dems and loony left are so against voter id?




You know, I get called racist by conservatives around here far more often than I call anybody else a racist. I'm pretty sure YOU have fucking called me a racist before, Stonehenge, for acknowledging that systems of oppression exist in this country which hamper the progress of racial minorities.

Won't somebody please think of the white men?! :aweman:



I don't recall ever seeing anyone but me call you a racist. To be honest, I think you are. Has nothing to do with political affiliations, if I even did define myself by something that ridiculous. It's because no matter what the facts of any "racial" post are, you just come in to blame the white guy, 100% of the time. You don't look at facts and judge the situation on those facts. You just go by skin color. That makes you a racist.




That is not true. I just realize the obvious fact that minorities are more often singled out for suspicion and abuse by the police, among many others in society. Even minority cops are more likely to target minorities, so I don't exclusively blame white people for this. I have my own reasons for distrusting cops aside from this so it's not like I don't have my own personal motivations for speaking negatively about the police.

And, you are DEFINITELY not the only person on this board who has ever called me a racist against white people, just for acknowledging that racism is alive and well in this country. It happens quite often, I lost count a long time ago. IMO the notion of racism against white people in the US is patently absurd. It doesn't fucking exist. If it did exist anywhere, it would exist where I live, and I have never been targeted for ANY kind of discrimination based on my skin color. Even if anti-white racism did exist, I wouldn't be a racist just for focusing on the forms of racism which obviously do exist.



It is true. As a prime example, the thread awhile back about a gang of black people jumping a single white guy. It was quite obvious who the wrong doers were, yet you came in and acted as if it was somehow the white guys fault. It's my opinion you're a racist and it's unlikely to change in the future. Doesn't have to do with your crusading to bring social injustice to light. It's because the white person is somehow always at fault. I'm pretty sure you even refused to acknowledge that the media slants these racial issues in favor of black people, to such an extreme that anytime white on black stuff happens it's in the title and said multiple times throughout the article, but the other way around it's never mentioned once. Actually I think you called me a racist for being willing to acknowledge this along with your usual partner in crime, koods. If you didn't flat out state it, you most definitely stated things in such a way to heavily suggest it.


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Re: Anchor Babies [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22124581 - 08/21/15 09:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Zap, how do you like the fact trump is pulling farther and farther ahead despite your predictions?


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Re: Anchor Babies [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22124584 - 08/21/15 09:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Even if that's true, it doesn't justify the police using greater force or taking the "guilty until proven innocent" sort of approach that they often do with minorities.


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Re: Anchor Babies [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22124597 - 08/21/15 09:25 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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It is true. As a prime example, the thread awhile back about a gang of black people jumping a single white guy. It was quite obvious who the wrong doers were, yet you came in and acted as if it was somehow the white guys fault. It's my opinion you're a racist and it's unlikely to change in the future. Doesn't have to do with your crusading to bring social injustice to light. It's because the white person is somehow always at fault. I'm pretty sure you even refused to acknowledge that the media slants these racial issues in favor of black people, to such an extreme that anytime white on black stuff happens it's in the title and said multiple times throughout the article, but the other way around it's never mentioned once. Actually I think you called me a racist for being willing to acknowledge this along with your usual partner in crime, koods. If you didn't flat out state it, you most definitely stated things in such a way to heavily suggest it.




I just don't care about that sort of thing. I don't comb the news for stories about white people misbehaving, do I? Again, my beef isn't with white people, it's with the police, and other institutions and social norms which are demonstrably biased against minorities, and you apparently have a beef with that. I can't be sure why, but I have got a possible explanation that I'll just keep to myself.


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Re: Anchor Babies [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22124615 - 08/21/15 09:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Zap, how do you like the fact trump is pulling farther and farther ahead despite your predictions?



I think it is meaningless.  When the rest of the field gets winnowed down he will fade.  I believe he has topped out.


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Re: Anchor Babies [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #22124617 - 08/21/15 09:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I don't comb for stories either. Do you just not click on news stories on the internet that pop up in Yahoo and the like?


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I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
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I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


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Re: Anchor Babies [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22124620 - 08/21/15 09:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Stonehenge, do you remember the 2012 republican primary at all? Do you remember how almost every nominee had at least a few weeks at the head of the polls, even the really crazy ones that in retrospect didn't stand a chance?


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Re: Anchor Babies [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22124621 - 08/21/15 09:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I don't comb for stories either. Do you just not click on news stories on the internet that pop up in Yahoo and the like?




I don't Yahoo!.


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Re: Anchor Babies [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #22124625 - 08/21/15 09:32 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

And the like. You don't have to Yahoo. There's AOL, MSN and any number of other pages.


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I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


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Re: Anchor Babies [Re: akira_akuma]
    #22124628 - 08/21/15 09:32 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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oh boy, we need more welfare, oh no we need more money, no we need to get rid of the Mexican's.

same problems for years and years and no one does anything.

politics!





shut up Nanook


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Re: Anchor Babies [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #22124631 - 08/21/15 09:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Even if that's true, it doesn't justify the police using greater force or taking the "guilty until proven innocent" sort of approach that they often do with minorities.



They do the same with everybody.  They are by nature suspicious because of what they encounter.  If you were a cop you would do the same thing after you saw what they see.
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Furthermore, rarely, if ever, will those who bemoan such things as the percentage of Blacks incarcerated mention that almost all of the crimes committed by these prisoners were against other Black people.

Despite the impression one would get from reading Conservative blogs, with their incessant postings about “Black thugs,” Black crime — like all crime — is nearly exclusively intraracial. 93% of the Black murderers imprisoned murdered other Blacks, 74.8% of the Black rapists rape Black women. And 68.3% of the Blacks robbed are robbed by Blacks as well.




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Re: Anchor Babies [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #22124635 - 08/21/15 09:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Saying racist is the knee jerk reaction of the far left to any reasonable idea.

Gresh, yes I'm serious, I think he can win. He is starting to draw larger crowds than Bernie is. What the hell is bernies platform anyway? No one seems to know. Trump puts it right out there for you.

Old zap will have apoplexy when trump wins. He will get over it when he sees all the good trump is doing and then wish he had voted for him. Trump will be reelected in a huge landslide. But first he has to get past the media, get past the illegals voting and voting more than once. Why do you think the dems and loony left are so against voter id?




You know, I get called racist by conservatives around here far more often than I call anybody else a racist. I'm pretty sure YOU have fucking called me a racist before, Stonehenge, for acknowledging that systems of oppression exist in this country which hamper the progress of racial minorities.

Won't somebody please think of the white men?! :aweman:



I don't recall ever seeing anyone but me call you a racist. To be honest, I think you are. Has nothing to do with political affiliations, if I even did define myself by something that ridiculous. It's because no matter what the facts of any "racial" post are, you just come in to blame the white guy, 100% of the time. You don't look at facts and judge the situation on those facts. You just go by skin color. That makes you a racist.




That is not true. I just realize the obvious fact that minorities are more often singled out for suspicion and abuse by the police, among many others in society. Even minority cops are more likely to target minorities, so I don't exclusively blame white people for this. I have my own reasons for distrusting cops aside from this so it's not like I don't have my own personal motivations for speaking negatively about the police.

And, you are DEFINITELY not the only person on this board who has ever called me a racist against white people, just for acknowledging that racism is alive and well in this country. It happens quite often, I lost count a long time ago. That wasn't Pris's first time and I'm pretty sure ZiG has done it as well. If you check my ratings you will see one DieCommie recently called me a "disgusting racist". IMO the notion of racism against white people in the US is patently absurd. It doesn't fucking exist. If it did exist anywhere, it would exist where I have lived my whole life, here in the Bay Area, and I have never been targeted for ANY kind of institutional discrimination based on my skin color. Even if anti-white racism did exist, I wouldn't be a racist just for focusing on the forms of racism which obviously do exist.




"Even if anti-white racism did exist, I wouldn't be a racist"

That's the exact hypocrisy white liberals use, thank you for pointing it out.


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Re: Anchor Babies [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22124643 - 08/21/15 09:37 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I'm not convinced that the disproportionate incarceration isn't due to disproportionate enforcement by the police.


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Re: Anchor Babies [Re: qman]
    #22124651 - 08/21/15 09:39 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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"Even if anti-white racism did exist, I wouldn't be a racist"

That's the exact hypocrisy white liberals use, thank you for pointing it out.




I don't fear, hate or distrust white people. Because I am a white person, I mostly associate and live with other white people. My life would be very inconvenient indeed if I did hate white people. It does not make me "racist against white people" to talk about institutional racism which targets people who are not white. This is not what racism is.


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Re: Anchor Babies [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22124654 - 08/21/15 09:39 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Saying racist is the knee jerk reaction of the far left to any reasonable idea.

Gresh, yes I'm serious, I think he can win. He is starting to draw larger crowds than Bernie is. What the hell is bernies platform anyway? No one seems to know. Trump puts it right out there for you.

Old zap will have apoplexy when trump wins. He will get over it when he sees all the good trump is doing and then wish he had voted for him. Trump will be reelected in a huge landslide. But first he has to get past the media, get past the illegals voting and voting more than once. Why do you think the dems and loony left are so against voter id?




"What the hell is bernies platform anyways?"

It's all here- https://berniesanders.com/issues/

The MSM won't discuss it.


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Re: Anchor Babies [Re: qman]
    #22124668 - 08/21/15 09:42 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

He doesn't really care.


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Re: Anchor Babies [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #22124679 - 08/21/15 09:44 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Stonehenge, do you remember the 2012 republican primary at all? Do you remember how almost every nominee had at least a few weeks at the head of the polls, even the really crazy ones that in retrospect didn't stand a chance?





like bernie sanders in this election


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Re: Anchor Babies [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22124682 - 08/21/15 09:45 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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oh boy, we need more welfare, oh no we need more money, no we need to get rid of the Mexican's.

same problems for years and years and no one does anything.

politics!





shut up Nanook



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Re: Anchor Babies [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22124692 - 08/21/15 09:46 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Stonehenge, do you remember the 2012 republican primary at all? Do you remember how almost every nominee had at least a few weeks at the head of the polls, even the really crazy ones that in retrospect didn't stand a chance?





like bernie sanders in this election




Not comparable. There were like at least five different nominees who were considered "front runners" before they landed on the blandest, least-offensive available choice. Trump is only the first of what I am sure will be many "Republican front runners" in the next year.


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Re: Anchor Babies [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #22124698 - 08/21/15 09:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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"Even if anti-white racism did exist, I wouldn't be a racist"

That's the exact hypocrisy white liberals use, thank you for pointing it out.




I don't hate or distrust white people. I am a white person, I mostly associate and live with other white people. It does not make me "racist against white people" to talk about institutional racism which does not target white people. This is not what racism is.




Some people hate their own race, sex, culture, ethnicity, religious background, ect.  Just because someone claims to be "one of them", it doesn't make them immune from being a bigot towards that same group. I'm sorry, but that rational doesn't pass the test.


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