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Invisibletuna
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cloning?
    #2212084 - 12/31/03 04:50 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

i just grew one big-ass shroom (almost 8 inches tall!)and i want to clone it. would all the shrooms that come from this clone be exactly the same size & etc? or would there still be all different shaped shrooms?


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Re: cloning? [Re: tuna]
    #2212095 - 12/31/03 04:54 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

No -- all the genetics in all of the mycelium and the fruitbodies are the same, in one casing/cake/etc.

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Re: cloning? [Re: micro]
    #2212101 - 12/31/03 04:57 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

i must be simple... what does that mean?


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Re: cloning? [Re: tuna]
    #2212111 - 12/31/03 05:02 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

The mycelium and mushrooms is all one organism. No matter which part you clone it'll be the same. Fruitbodies are already rhizomorphic, though (mushrooms don't sector) so it is a good idea to clone fruitbodies, and larger ones are easier to work with....

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Re: cloning? [Re: micro]
    #2212121 - 12/31/03 05:06 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

will cloning produce different shrooms than a spore print from the same shroom?


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Re: cloning? [Re: micro]
    #2212131 - 12/31/03 05:14 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Wouldn't a lot of the mycelium have a little genetic variation, as it was produced from multiple spores and not just one? i mean if it were produced from just one spore than i can see all the mycelium and all of the mushrooms being the same genetic material, but not if it's from a multispore source. otherwise, there would be no genetic variations amongst the mushies.


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Re: cloning? [Re: tuna]
    #2212135 - 12/31/03 05:16 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

A bit -- it depends on chance. The genetics all still come from the parent if using spores, but there will be differences because of crossing-over during meiosis.

The size of mushrooms (along with most everything else) is more a product of its environment rather than genetics.

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Re: cloning? [Re: micro]
    #2212960 - 01/01/04 07:34 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I've heard that the genotype is kept complete in a pf cake, and not with bulk substrates, does this have any effect?

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