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Am I addicted to opiates?
    #22119481 - 08/20/15 11:41 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

About six months ago I'd use an opiate, say 15 mgs of hydrocodone, every two weeks or so, then about 3 months later I started doing around 15-20 mg Hydro/oxycodone once a week. 2 months ago I started doing opiates like twice- three times a week, still 20 mg oxycodone.

This month I was doing them about 3-4 times a week. A week and a half ago I got a half gram of very good heroin, and I started snorting either that, or eating 30-40 mg oxycodone almost every day.

Today I was doing some focalin with some friends, as its my last day home before I go away to college, and about 6 hours after I did it, I started to comedown. I've experienced Dexmethylphenidate comedowns before, but this time I did quite a bit more than I usually do, and it was unusually horrible.

The comedown was so fuckin bad. I felt anxious, uneasy, nauseous, uncomfortable, sore, and just overall sad. So I decided to blow a line of heroin to calm me down, and within a few minutes I felt fantastic. Like the comedown stopped the second the heroin kicked in.

Does it sound like I am physically addicted? if so this is horrible fucking timing, I'm moving into my college dorm tomorrow and I have to go to a ton of stupid ceremonies and welcoming things; Not to mention I've gotta meet lots of new people, and I'm always much more comfortable making friends on opiates, then not, so I was planning on poppin an oxy tomorrow, which I fear will only make me more physically addicted, and withdrawal that much worse.


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Re: Am I addicted to opiates? [Re: Tybg]
    #22119488 - 08/20/15 11:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

yes dude quit while you're ahead and you're withdrawals arent a week locked in a bathroom


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Re: Am I addicted to opiates? [Re: theRealrollforever]
    #22119495 - 08/20/15 11:45 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

that perc that ya got tho enjoy it :feelshighman: it wont make your withdrawals that bad its the horse thatll run away with you :feelbadman:


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Re: Am I addicted to opiates? [Re: theRealrollforever]
    #22119500 - 08/20/15 11:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Dude, get your shit together.  Being struck out on opiates during freshman year or addicted sounds horrible.  College offers opportunity--both good and bad.  Don't let that shit hold you back.


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Re: Am I addicted to opiates? [Re: Tybg] * 1
    #22119502 - 08/20/15 11:48 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I sneeze like crazy when I come off of them.  My nose runs.  and my injuries hurt way more than normal.  It is unpleasant.  a lot of withdrawl is all in your head.  the drugs are out of your system in a matter of hours.  48 tops


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Re: Am I addicted to opiates? [Re: Tybg] * 1
    #22119513 - 08/20/15 11:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

If you have to actually ask if you're addicted, it's a pretty safe bet you are. People who are not addicted to something, generally don't have to question whether they are or aren't.


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Re: Am I addicted to opiates? [Re: Tybg]
    #22119527 - 08/20/15 11:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Sounds like you're half-way there, at least. Stop now while you still can.


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Re: Am I addicted to opiates? [Re: Tybg]
    #22119551 - 08/21/15 12:03 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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About six months ago I'd use an opiate, say 15 mgs of hydrocodone, every two weeks or so, then about 3 months later I started doing around 15-20 mg Hydro/oxycodone once a week. 2 months ago I started doing opiates like twice- three times a week, still 20 mg oxycodone.

This month I was doing them about 3-4 times a week. A week and a half ago I got a half gram of very good heroin, and I started snorting either that, or eating 30-40 mg oxycodone almost every day.

Today I was doing some focalin with some friends, as its my last day home before I go away to college, and about 6 hours after I did it, I started to comedown. I've experienced Dexmethylphenidate comedowns before, but this time I did quite a bit more than I usually do, and it was unusually horrible.

The comedown was so fuckin bad. I felt anxious, uneasy, nauseous, uncomfortable, sore, and just overall sad. So I decided to blow a line of heroin to calm me down, and within a few minutes I felt fantastic. Like the comedown stopped the second the heroin kicked in.

Does it sound like I am physically addicted? if so this is horrible fucking timing, I'm moving into my college dorm tomorrow and I have to go to a ton of stupid ceremonies and welcoming things; Not to mention I've gotta meet lots of new people, and I'm always much more comfortable making friends on opiates, then not, so I was planning on poppin an oxy tomorrow, which I fear will only make me more physically addicted, and withdrawal that much worse.




Them's the breaks with opiates. Once you like them, the ball is already rolling down hill. If you don't want to live as an addict, the sooner you stop, the easier it'll be. At my worst, I was taking 20-30 10/325 hydros a day. It's amazing I didn't damage my liver.


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Re: Am I addicted to opiates? [Re: sprinkles]
    #22119557 - 08/21/15 12:05 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I sneeze like crazy when I come off of them.  My nose runs.  and my injuries hurt way more than normal.  It is unpleasant.  a lot of withdrawl is all in your head.  the drugs are out of your system in a matter of hours.  48 tops




The drugs being out of your system is what causes the withdrawal, not what ends it. That said, your average withdrawal won't last more than 3-7 days.


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Re: Am I addicted to opiates? [Re: LSDreamer]
    #22119565 - 08/21/15 12:07 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

funny, if I am busy and im not thinking about withdrawl I have no symptoms.  but as soon as I notice they arent there, it hits me.  Psychosomatic I believe.


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Re: Am I addicted to opiates? [Re: sprinkles]
    #22125939 - 08/22/15 08:29 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Well I didn't do any opiates yesterday; just felt really tired on move in day, fell asleep at 7 and missed all the ceremonies and after parties. Felt much better after I woke up today

So no signs of physical dependence :yesnod: I think I'm in the clear


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Re: Am I addicted to opiates? [Re: Tybg]
    #22125969 - 08/22/15 08:38 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

i'd be careful, man.  it sounds like yer going down the path of addiction.  try using less and less, that should help you to stop.


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Re: Am I addicted to opiates? [Re: Tybg]
    #22125971 - 08/22/15 08:38 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah your fucked


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Re: Am I addicted to opiates? [Re: Tybg] * 2
    #22125973 - 08/22/15 08:40 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Aren't you the guy who also ordered like a 3 year supply of etizolam?
Dude I mean this in the nicest way possible, quit fucking doing drugs before you fuck yourself.
At least take a break from benzos and opiates, nothing will ruin your life faster than that combo.


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Re: Am I addicted to opiates? [Re: Zombi3]
    #22126088 - 08/22/15 09:24 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah IMO if you have to ask, you are probably addicted to them. God im craving some fucking opiates after reading this lol.

Anyway, lay off them. After reading the OP i have no doubt in my mind that you are addicted, or are very, very close and will be addicted in no time if you keep it up.


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Re: Am I addicted to opiates? [Re: Zombi3]
    #22126151 - 08/22/15 09:47 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Aren't you the guy who also ordered like a 3 year supply of etizolam?
Dude I mean this in the nicest way possible, quit fucking doing drugs before you fuck yourself.
At least take a break from benzos and opiates, nothing will ruin your life faster than that combo.



QFT.

OP, you're clearly in the midst of a downward spiral that you can get out of before it gets unmanageable. If I were you, I'd quit opiates or at least cut down to a couple times a year, and stick with kratom if you want to use an opioid more regularly. Krat dependence is much more manageable and easier to balance with school than any serious opiate habit. No one wants to see you end up dead from an overdose during your first semester of college, like what happened to my best friend last year. Best of luck OP


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oh ive cried on drugs

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Re: Am I addicted to opiates? [Re: Tybg]
    #22126167 - 08/22/15 09:51 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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At least take a break from benzos and opiates, nothing will ruin your life faster than that combo.



^ this

Don't even bother with painkillers anymore.  The hassle of addiction and withdrawal makes it not worth it.  I've been down this road and let me tell you, you're not missing out on anything.  It's a waste of time and maintaining an addiction like that involves more work than you'd think it would.  Quit while you're ahead.


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Re: Am I addicted to opiates? [Re: Tybg]
    #22126217 - 08/22/15 10:11 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

If you could get through a day without opiates, and were able to sleep, then no you're not addicted.

I struggled with opiate (mainly heroin) addiction for years, when I got to my worst point sleeping without a fix was out of the question because of the pain in my body and restless legs.  I couldn't get through a day without opiates unless I had suboxone or methadone.

You don't want that, trust me.  But if you go there, I hope you're safe.


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Re: Am I addicted to opiates? [Re: Lucis]
    #22128112 - 08/22/15 06:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I felt shitty most of the day today, but nothing unmanageable. Probably just me getting over a slight mental addiction.

Oh yea and Zombie I got rid of the etiz a long time ago.


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Re: Am I addicted to opiates? [Re: Tybg]
    #22128136 - 08/22/15 06:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

That's good news at least. Be careful with opiates man, :hug:


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Re: Am I addicted to opiates? [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22128225 - 08/22/15 06:52 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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If you have to actually ask if you're addicted, it's a pretty safe bet you are. People who are not addicted to something, generally don't have to question whether they are or aren't.




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Re: Am I addicted to opiates? [Re: Detached]
    #22128235 - 08/22/15 06:53 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

If your doing opiates every day than yes.


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Re: Am I addicted to opiates? [Re: Enjoywho]
    #22135571 - 08/24/15 01:57 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I seem to be having a really shitty time at college. I feel depressed and everything just sucks. Is this me not liking college or is this just me being 4 days without an opiate?

I already have kratom coming in the mail so maybe I'll find out in a few days


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Re: Am I addicted to opiates? [Re: Tybg]
    #22135694 - 08/24/15 02:23 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Idk, I'm in the same boat being depressed as fuck and hating college and I'm still taking a good amount of kratom every day :lol: But there is a good chance that H rebound is responsible for your bad feelings.


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oh ive cried on drugs

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Tragic.  I told the cop not to do it but he didn't listen.


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Re: Am I addicted to opiates? [Re: hex_enduction]
    #22135709 - 08/24/15 02:26 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Have you met a single person that enjoys psychedelics yet? cuz I have yet to meet one and I've asked like 15 people


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Re: Am I addicted to opiates? [Re: Tybg]
    #22135716 - 08/24/15 02:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

You are addicted to opiates.
I've been in your shoes, it's still easy to step out. It won't be in two weeks.

I am friends with atleast 2 dozen people who enjoy psychedelics. I kind of don't, they're like cough syrup - tastes like shit but you drink it because you have a cold.


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Re: Am I addicted to opiates? [Re: Tybg]
    #22135720 - 08/24/15 02:28 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I also hate the dorms here. They're not uncomfortable, but they're definitely not comfortable


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Re: Am I addicted to opiates? [Re: ModestMouse]
    #22135740 - 08/24/15 02:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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You are addicted to opiates.
I've been in your shoes, it's still easy to step out. It won't be in two weeks.




Okay thanks man, it means alot to hear that. I thought this depression was just how my life was gunna be for the next 4 years. I was having some seriously bad thoughts which was only making me more unhappy


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Re: Am I addicted to opiates? [Re: Tybg]
    #22135747 - 08/24/15 02:32 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quit bitching and sober up

or

Do dope drop out and kick yourself for it in 10 years.

That's a real hard choice.
Glad I could be of help. Like I said I've been in your exact shoes before, it gets better just ween off and see it through.


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Re: Am I addicted to opiates? [Re: ModestMouse] * 1
    #22135766 - 08/24/15 02:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Dude if I quit coffee the first day of college I would probably go murdersuicide. I can't imagine quitting opiates and then starting essentially a whole new phase in my life. It's gonna take weeks before you feel normal and happy again if you're doing NEW things like college - take it was an opportunity to quit the shitty opiates since it's easier to quit something if you're away from where you started becoming addicted to it.


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Re: Am I addicted to opiates? [Re: Tybg]
    #22135778 - 08/24/15 02:36 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, I know tons of trippers, but I'm on my 3rd year now. About two weeks into my freshman semester someone offered me my first hit of 'cid, an insanely hot girl who I ended up hooking up with for a while at that :lol: :shrug: and I'm an antisocial loser, trust me things are gonna look up for ya soon.


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oh ive cried on drugs

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Tragic.  I told the cop not to do it but he didn't listen.


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Re: Am I addicted to opiates? [Re: ModestMouse]
    #22135786 - 08/24/15 02:37 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

yea I haven't snorted any heroin for 4 days so I'm on the right track; Although my kratom just arrived so I am on a bit of that right now but that doesn't count as a relapse really


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Re: Am I addicted to opiates? [Re: Tybg]
    #22135791 - 08/24/15 02:37 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks for the encouragement ya'll means alot


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Re: Am I addicted to opiates? [Re: Tybg]
    #22135796 - 08/24/15 02:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Kratom is ok.
Atleast pertaining to relapse, it's likely just going to be a moderate alternative.

Personally I hate the shit. I'd use if I was withdrawing but won't touch it otherwise.


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Re: Am I addicted to opiates? [Re: ModestMouse]
    #22135810 - 08/24/15 02:42 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

last year I took etizolam I believe it was for about 6 days, and had about 9 days of horrible agonizing wd's. it was fucked up to have happened at all and to have lasted that long. think I slept maybe 10 hours in those 9 days.


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Young male going by the name "Bassfreak" entered Worcester General complaining of a sharp pain in his buttock region after attending EDM event. Attending physician considered a possible diagnosis of acute rave anus, but upon further investigation it was determined there was nothing cute about patient's anus.

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Re: Am I addicted to opiates? [Re: Tybg]
    #22135902 - 08/24/15 03:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Just try and keep focused on your priorities...:rockon:
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Re: Am I addicted to opiates? [Re: hex_enduction]
    #22135981 - 08/24/15 03:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Yeah, I know tons of trippers, but I'm on my 3rd year now. About two weeks into my freshman semester someone offered me my first hit of 'cid, an insanely hot girl who I ended up hooking up with for a while at that :lol: :shrug: and I'm an antisocial loser, trust me things are gonna look up for ya soon.




Also Hex where/how did you meet those trippers? and are they more introverted people or were they real outgoing?


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Re: Am I addicted to opiates? [Re: Tybg]
    #22136010 - 08/24/15 03:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Quote:

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Yeah, I know tons of trippers, but I'm on my 3rd year now. About two weeks into my freshman semester someone offered me my first hit of 'cid, an insanely hot girl who I ended up hooking up with for a while at that :lol: :shrug: and I'm an antisocial loser, trust me things are gonna look up for ya soon.




Also Hex where/how did you meet those trippers? and are they more introverted people or were they real outgoing?




I suppose I'm in the minority of people who like to trip by themselves in a dark room :lol:


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Young male going by the name "Bassfreak" entered Worcester General complaining of a sharp pain in his buttock region after attending EDM event. Attending physician considered a possible diagnosis of acute rave anus, but upon further investigation it was determined there was nothing cute about patient's anus.

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Re: Am I addicted to opiates? [Re: Tybg]
    #22136423 - 08/24/15 04:54 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

You are screwed unless you stop before it gets worse.  It's not going to get any easier either.  I've seen many people in the same situation as you, people rarely put in the effort to get off it unless they get burned really badly which it sounds as though you haven't.  Good luck though, people aren't joking when they say opioids turn your life to shit quicker than you think possible.


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Re: Am I addicted to opiates? [Re: fapjack]
    #22136565 - 08/24/15 05:22 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Opiates help Stim come downs regardless of addiction. If your feeling like crap without the opiates on sober days then chances are your becoming dependant. Regardless your playing with fire by doing H and most likely will become addicted if you continue.


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Re: Am I addicted to opiates? [Re: Magicman69]
    #22136643 - 08/24/15 05:39 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I've done much higher amounts of opiates for much longer then you have and quit with zero withdrawals.  Just usually the day after I stop I feel tired like you said you did.  Not saying that people won't have withdrawals with the amount that  you have done just that I didnt. 

The mental cravings sucked though. That was the hardest part for me.  Like others have said this would be a good time to stop.  You could continue  to use and control yourself and be fine but more likely you will continue to do them more frequent and in much higher doses.

It's much better to go through life with a clear head rather then living in a drug induced fog from day to day.


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Re: Am I addicted to opiates? [Re: DTCharlieB]
    #22136655 - 08/24/15 05:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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DTCharlieB said:
I've done much higher amounts of opiates for much longer then you have and quit with zero withdrawals.  Just usually the day after I stop I feel tired like you said you did.  Not saying that people won't have withdrawals with the amount that  you have done just that I didnt. 

The mental cravings sucked though. That was the hardest part for me.  Like others have said this would be a good time to stop.  You could continue  to use and control yourself and be fine but more likely you will continue to do them more frequent and in much higher doses.

It's much better to go through life with a clear head rather then living in a drug induced fog from day to day.




I find the mental addiction is usually always worse.


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Re: Am I addicted to opiates? [Re: pfxtc]
    #22136689 - 08/24/15 05:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Ya I agree totally with that. And I think alot of physical withdrawals are in your head.  I mean there's definitely physical wds gonna happen if you get to a certain point but I think you can make yourself think your worse off then what you really are.


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Re: Am I addicted to opiates? [Re: Tybg]
    #22139685 - 08/25/15 08:12 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

At shows or other music related interactions (talking to people playing guitars outside and shit like that). People who are into music tend to be into psychedelics. And most of the psychedelic users that I know are pretty introverted like myself.


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oh ive cried on drugs

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Tragic.  I told the cop not to do it but he didn't listen.


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Re: Am I addicted to opiates? [Re: Tybg]
    #22139723 - 08/25/15 08:21 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

At first I was drinking water, then I started drinking juice, I moved on to pop for a while, then I figured I'd go with beer. Then I tried whisky to see what the fuss was all about. It made me sleepy a little so a friend offered some cocaine. It was so amazing that I tried crack.

Am I addicted you think?


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Re: Am I addicted to opiates? [Re: Patlal]
    #22139847 - 08/25/15 09:03 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

No. Just experimental.


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