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pineapple3


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When do I take the 'huge massive' dose of LSD or Shrooms????
#22119239 - 08/20/15 10:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hi all,
Had experience with shrooms, thankfully good experience, reached a point of love and this beautiful peak that thankfully stays with me ... It was about eating around lower than 40 liberty caps...... (which was my max dose ever)
My question is, I want to well, 'get my ass kicked', but in a way that I don't end 'totally fucked up never wanting to touch psychedelics again' so what do I do?
build my way up? read more,etc,etc?????
all advice greatly appreciated thank you very much
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Re: When do I take the 'huge massive' dose of LSD or Shrooms???? [Re: pineapple3]
#22119255 - 08/20/15 10:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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You've taken the drug. You know how you respond to it. Only you have any idea if you should take a higher dose or not.
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Re: When do I take the 'huge massive' dose of LSD or Shrooms???? [Re: pineapple3]
#22119257 - 08/20/15 10:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Look here's the thing from my view, I wish to get my 'ass kicked'
But I'm personally not that 'clever'. Someone like Terrence Meckenna who read Psychology (jung) at age 14, and yet he later ended up having a bad trip, never wanting to touch mushrooms again...
I know that happened to someone clever like him, and I wish that not happen to me, I don't know anything, and hopefully the mushrooms/LSD will teach me lesons, but hopefully not too much that I don't want to touch them again.
as again, I will say. I don't even read that much. so if someone like terrence mckenna who reads a lot and has a extreme knowledge of Psychology/psys,etc,etc could have a bad trip, then I might really mess up, and I hopefully would like to take other roads not to end up at a road where I took too much and mess up,etc. in general.
what advice would you please personally give?
thank you.
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Re: When do I take the 'huge massive' dose of LSD or Shrooms???? [Re: pineapple3]
#22119327 - 08/20/15 10:55 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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McKenna routinely took 5 dry grams of mushrooms. I don't know how many times a year he did this, but it he did it regularly. Probably 3 times a year? Don't know.
Anyway, I would gradually build up the dose. Too much too soon and you will only scare yourself.
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Re: When do I take the 'huge massive' dose of LSD or Shrooms???? [Re: pineapple3]
#22119336 - 08/20/15 10:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Lol, you sound like you keep trying to dodge a bad trip. You can't, it's impossible. Doesn't matter how much knowledge, experience, or dosage a bad trip is always inevitable.
And you'll know when it's time for a big dose. It takes a while to become comfortable and build courage.
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Re: When do I take the 'huge massive' dose of LSD or Shrooms???? [Re: pineapple3]
#22119351 - 08/20/15 11:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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All about how comfortable you are with the idea. Make sure you have a perfect set and setting and plenty of plans to occupy your time while on the other side and you should have a blast. Just make sure you're ready and there is no "best time" anytime is a good time. But realize which substance you want to dive in on can totally give you a different experiance. I love LSD and shrooms don't get me wrong but I think LSD is much more recreational and shrooms more spiratual so if I was going to dive in the set and setting would play a factor into which type of trip I would like. Maybe even venture to different substances such as Lsa or dmt. Or prepare yourself by smoking some salvia and seeing how much you can handle in that headspace and realize that whatever you endure on salvia will be much crazier than a high dose of another substance so if you get through that and make a good meaningful experiance out of it than other psychs will be a breeze Just a humble opinion. Set setting and devotion to what you're about to do is the key Maybe even a small amount of Xanax pre-liftoff and on hand will help you feel at ease. Good luck and have fun!
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Re: When do I take the 'huge massive' dose of LSD or Shrooms???? [Re: pineapple3]
#22119358 - 08/20/15 11:06 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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i dont think getting ur ass kicked is ever a pleasant experience..
setting is everything ime..
perhaps even having someone who has experience with these substances who can keep u company will help as well
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Re: When do I take the 'huge massive' dose of LSD or Shrooms???? [Re: zZZz]
#22119368 - 08/20/15 11:10 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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zZZz said: i dont think getting ur ass kicked is perhaps even having someone who has experience with these substances who can keep u company will help as well
True that. Back when I was in college taking L all the time, I definitely averted a few bad situations with people who had no business taking psychedelics who took way too much. Having somebody familiar with psychedelics can seriously help turn a trip around if it's not going well.
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Re: When do I take the 'huge massive' dose of LSD or Shrooms???? [Re: pineapple3]
#22119446 - 08/20/15 11:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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If you're psychologically stable, there's not really any particular harm in tripping frequently IMO.
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Re: When do I take the 'huge massive' dose of LSD or Shrooms???? [Re: pineapple3]
#22119464 - 08/20/15 11:37 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't think bad trips are totally inevitable, if you are careful with your dose and setting.
But if you are bent on getting your 'ass kicked', get your 'ass kicked' you will.
I don't know what you think you want though, honestly. You want your ass kicked, but you don't want it to be too scary?
Maybe you should just try working your way up slowly from doses you're comfortable with now
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Re: When do I take the 'huge massive' dose of LSD or Shrooms???? [Re: drr]
#22119494 - 08/20/15 11:45 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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It really depends on how you view psychedelics and your definition of "bad trip". If you trip enough times, eventually you're going to end up getting stuck thinking about something that makes you uncomfortable. While this may not be as fun as timeless moments of infinite bliss and total contentedness with the world as it is, but I've never really considered those times " bad". I've never really considered a trip "bad" unless someone is having a full on panic attack,or is psychotic.
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Re: When do I take the 'huge massive' dose of LSD or Shrooms???? [Re: pineapple3]
#22119538 - 08/20/15 11:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sure. Like I said, if you're going to trip frequently or take high doses, you've gotta be psychologically stable, and very few people are stable 100% of the time.
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Re: When do I take the 'huge massive' dose of LSD or Shrooms???? [Re: pineapple3]
#22122705 - 08/21/15 02:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I want to well, 'get my ass kicked', but in a way that I don't end 'totally fucked up never wanting to touch psychedelics again' so what do I do?
"Getting your ass kicked" on shrooms usually means you took more than you can handle, and the trip becomes an absolutely ferocious nightmare like a hurricane inside your head. A "huge massive" dose is like a nuclear weapon that is tearing through reality. It will teach you a lesson, sure, but the lesson is mostly "don't be so arrogant when choosing your dose next time".
The sensible way to avoid massive and unpleasant increases in trip intensity is simply to 'build your way up' gradually in dosage terms, so you've basically answered your own question.
You can't guarantee a pleasant trip every time, but there's a difference between a trip that feels a little bit uncomfortable and difficult because the dose is slightly higher, and a "totally fucked up" trip on a crazy dose that feels like the end of the world and has you begging for mercy.
Also you can "fuck up" if you take a high dose without any real experience, by doing random weird things that get you into trouble of some kind. For example, the message on the GOD TOLD ME TO PASS YOU ALL THIS MESSAGE URGENTLY thread is the typical kind of thing you might be thinking about on a high dose. Imagine ranting about this kind of stuff in public.....police get involved.......you decide to give psychedelics a miss for a while.
If you increase your dose gradually and get more familiar with these weird states of mind, they are less likely to cause you problems, you can enjoy the madness without doing mad things.
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Another point is that when you increase the dose, the good and bad effects increase together, so you get increasing extremes of highs and lows within the same trip. So you might get a trip that feels hellish at one point and serenely calm at another, visuals that are horrifying but also fabulously beautiful, emotions that vary from extreme despair to incredible euphoria......it's less about a "bad trip" and more about the intensity of the experience.
You can't really separate the "good" experiences in a strong trip from the difficult parts of the trip that make you think "my God this is intense", they are all part of the same thing. Over time the "bad trip" feeling becomes more like a kind of awe and respect for the power of the trip
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Re: When do I take the 'huge massive' dose of LSD or Shrooms???? [Re: Aldebaran] 1
#22123518 - 08/21/15 05:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Depending on what the OP means by 'hugh massive' dose. For most people, 5 dry grams is massive enough to rock their world. Many people will take a gram or 3 and that's enough for them. For some more experienced trippers, taking 5, or 7, or 10 grams dry is just another walk in the park. Sure, they may lose their minds, but they have been there before and know how to handle their shit, even when reality seems to be slipping. There are 'bad' trips and there are also 'good' trips, many of which happen all together. It's ones ability to recognize which is which and how to move foward through the bad times and embrace the good that seperate the psyconaughts from the recreational trippers.
I do not have any experience with LSD, only psilocybin mushrooms, but I have had several 'heroic doses' in my time, most of which were done alone, in the safety of my own home. I, as well as many others, will stress set and setting. If you're going to be losing your 'self', it should be done in a place that you are comfortable with and with the proper mind set. Everything will be OK and you will come down eventually.
OP, work your way up to these 'massive' doses and familiarize your 'self' with the feelings that come with large doses. If you dive too deep too quick and lose your mind, it can be a rough time. If you're unsure, have a trusted friend for a sitter to make sure no one hurts them selves.
Be safe on your journey and respect the substance you choose.
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