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Mrcloudy
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Re: Ergot Cultivation From Isolated Strains [Re: micro]
#22164941 - 08/30/15 01:58 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I am willing to bet it was lab grown Ergot that Hoffman used and not Ergot collected from rye in the wild.
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Re: Ergot Cultivation From Isolated Strains [Re: Mrcloudy]
#22166214 - 08/30/15 07:49 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I thought it was synthesized?
I recall synths for Lysercic Acid going back to 1918.
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Re: Ergot Cultivation From Isolated Strains [Re: micro]
#22166290 - 08/30/15 08:05 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I dont know im trying to avoid the heat by not getting a lot of solvents and reagents and to start from natural stuff would be better. But it appears that ergot is some wierd stuff and I would need a lot to get a lot so but still a few years of practise and im sure I can get the desired product.
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Re: Ergot Cultivation From Isolated Strains [Re: thewanderer25]
#22167609 - 08/31/15 03:43 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah, unless you want your body parts to fall off and get burned at the stake as a which, I'd recommend staying away from it. Though it *is* a good precursor ergot itself can kill you.
I'm not really sure what your plan is.
If you make lysergic acid though, I think that would be funny... I just found a big bag of diethylamide sorting through my stuff. I wonder if you could just do a dehydration rxn or something... I have no clue, just looked at the pictures :V
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Re: Ergot Cultivation From Isolated Strains [Re: micro]
#22171456 - 08/31/15 09:42 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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micro said: Yeah, unless you want your body parts to fall off and get burned at the stake as a which, I'd recommend staying away from it. Though it *is* a good precursor ergot itself can kill you.
I'm not really sure what your plan is.
If you make lysergic acid though, I think that would be funny... I just found a big bag of diethylamide sorting through my stuff. I wonder if you could just do a dehydration rxn or something... I have no clue, just looked at the pictures :V
Lol you just have some laying around? Ive got next to nothing other than a few boiling flasks a distillation flask and a 55 gallon drum of random solvents I stole from the recycling plant. Its probably stupid I cant figure out what it is it smells like NP stuff but im not sure how to separate it all or figure out what ive separated. They just left it there and my friend works there so he "accidentally rolled it down the hill" and I got it with my truck he said its from a chemistry lab but has no idea whats in it. Idk I should probably take it back but I think I committed a crime so idk what to do with it.
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Re: Ergot Cultivation From Isolated Strains [Re: drake89]
#22466800 - 11/02/15 02:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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drake89 said: I would hazard a guess that you are not going to be able to do this without an upper level chemistry education. So why don't you read a book? Maybe by the time you're educated, you'll think better of this foolish and dangerous endeavour. And maybe not talk about how you plan on commiting a lot of felonies. Online.
He knows this, every thread he starts is stuff like this. If he was actually capable of completing the process he wouldn't need to ask, and would post about his highly illegal plans on here.
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Re: Ergot Cultivation From Isolated Strains [Re: thewanderer25]
#22467282 - 11/02/15 04:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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thewanderer25 said:
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micro said: Yeah, unless you want your body parts to fall off and get burned at the stake as a which, I'd recommend staying away from it. Though it *is* a good precursor ergot itself can kill you.
I'm not really sure what your plan is.
If you make lysergic acid though, I think that would be funny... I just found a big bag of diethylamide sorting through my stuff. I wonder if you could just do a dehydration rxn or something... I have no clue, just looked at the pictures :V
Lol you just have some laying around? Ive got next to nothing other than a few boiling flasks a distillation flask and a 55 gallon drum of random solvents I stole from the recycling plant. Its probably stupid I cant figure out what it is it smells like NP stuff but im not sure how to separate it all or figure out what ive separated. They just left it there and my friend works there so he "accidentally rolled it down the hill" and I got it with my truck he said its from a chemistry lab but has no idea whats in it. Idk I should probably take it back but I think I committed a crime so idk what to do with it.
this is exactly what I mean, you say you have the chemistry down, but don't know how to separate a mixture of solvents. Solvent is a really broad term, I assume you mean petroleum distillates. I'll give you a hint, it involves distillation of a certain kind. But really, take the advice you been given and focus on your education.
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Re: Ergot Cultivation From Isolated Strains [Re: coneconington]
#22469254 - 11/03/15 01:19 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Even for clandestine chemists who know what they are doing this is a tough one, especially if they can't source things like phosphoryl chloride. There are much easier drugs to syth, like... damned near everything. Make quaaludes :V
Seriously, they are relatively easy to make out of readily available things.
The easiest and cheapest has to be GHB, even if you can't get GBL.
Mescaline is pretty simple, too.
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Re: Ergot Cultivation From Isolated Strains [Re: thewanderer25]
#27519938 - 10/27/21 09:35 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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I have had a lot of success growing in agar in apetri dish. It was very simple. I cut the rye spur with sterilized razor knife into three or so peices and using a good sterile technique and wearing a face mask and and gloves I plant the peices onto nutrient agar. Then in five or six days the agar becomes colonized with a nice white mycelium that turns black very rapidly when exposed to light.
I'm sure this can also be easily acheived in liquid culture.
I think using a dark room with black light would protect the alkaloids and keep the mycelium white
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Re: Ergot Cultivation From Isolated Strains [Re: Fejman]
#27523024 - 10/29/21 03:41 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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I don't think the OP has been back to the forums for over 5 years, so I doubt he'll read this.
The black turn sounds interesting. Is this a normal thing for ergot mycelium to do?
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