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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: taGyo]
    #22113902 - 08/19/15 08:08 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yes it can but it's... not quite as clean, and I feel sketchy about it.    I've done it successfully though.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: Inocuole]
    #22114153 - 08/19/15 08:56 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I bought some sheets of polyfil felt at Michaels, three for less than a buck, and three will make more filters than I'd need in a year. Tape sucks, I have to admit. It gets gummy.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: Ajahn Don]
    #22114337 - 08/19/15 09:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

So how come micropore tape works with pasty plates and not in grain jar lids?

Or tape would work with lids well?


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: pablokabute]
    #22114361 - 08/19/15 09:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

i've used them with half pints for agar, worked fine.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: abductee]
    #22114369 - 08/19/15 09:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Damn I will have to find my micropore tape somewhere.

A regular sized roll in here costs like
3 USD


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: pablokabute]
    #22114389 - 08/19/15 09:54 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

yeah mine was around that price, like 4.50 canadian.
it worked for me, but maybe there's reasons that experience would say to avoid using them, but logically it should work the same way. Gotta put the paper towel down still and everything else. my half pints fit into a sandwich bag so I usually wrap syran wrap around it then put it in the ziplock sandwich bag.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: abductee]
    #22114410 - 08/19/15 09:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The micropore tape is not the best filter for GE. It's just to cover that hole.

The hole is to prevent a negative pressure vacuum from forming inside the agar plates, one that would suck in contams upon opening. I'm sure you can get away with micropore tape for your grain jars but honestly at that point I'd either just buy a tyvek suit from Home Depot for like 10 bucks or get some SFDs.

Pasty will correct me if I'm wrong :thumbup:


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: taGyo]
    #22114422 - 08/19/15 10:01 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

sorry , I miss read pablo's question. It can be used on jar lids, but I wouldnt use it for grain jars, but if you wanted to do agar in a half pint you can use it for those lids.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: taGyo]
    #22114438 - 08/19/15 10:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The only grain jars that I've ever used micropore tape on have gotten bacteria. They may be fine if you don't shake them but I think since the tape is so thin, when grains touch the tape when shaking is where things go wrong


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: taGyo]
    #22114442 - 08/19/15 10:06 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I have had small screwtop pp plates before,
For GE and negative pressure... you just unscrew a very little bit of the lid, maybe 1/16 of a full turn and no attachments at the top, no nothing...

Makes me wonder... screw tops might be more efficient than snap PP's?


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: pablokabute]
    #22114458 - 08/19/15 10:10 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I use screw tops :thumbup:

Still have an air hole though.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: taGyo]
    #22114473 - 08/19/15 10:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Orayt.
thanks everyone. 

:getstoned:

I gotta raise some plates for some straight from the plate LI-making?! Haha


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: pablokabute]
    #22114607 - 08/19/15 10:48 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Theres absolutely no reason to have your jars semi-unscrewesd


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: Buck513]
    #22114663 - 08/19/15 11:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

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Theres absolutely no reason to have your jars semi-unscrewesd




There is if there's no other way for gas to escape.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: Inocuole]
    #22114671 - 08/19/15 11:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Theres absolutely no reason to have your jars semi-unscrewesd




There is if there's no other way for gas to escape.




GE = gas escape
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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: Inocuole]
    #22114676 - 08/19/15 11:08 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Theres absolutely no reason to have your jars semi-unscrewesd




There is if there's no other way for gas to escape.



yeah but we all built it to spec with a GE hole.

And if you didn't god help you.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: taGyo]
    #22117278 - 08/20/15 03:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Hi,
Is there any word on these things melting in a long PC cycle?  Im about to do a round of grain jars and have room in the top of the cooker for some of the Glad mini rounds i bought yesterday... good idea?  or will the 90 minute cook time for the grain melt the mini rounds? Thanks!!


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: George Jones]
    #22117289 - 08/20/15 03:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

90 min probably won't hurt the containers but it will caramelize the sugars. Better to not do that.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #22117340 - 08/20/15 03:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Make sure they're PP5s and you're good.

I don't cook my PP5s with my grain though. In theory they shouldn't melt.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: taGyo]
    #22117421 - 08/20/15 04:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Certainly the containers will be okay. But the media will be ruined unless its grain water agar or has no simple sugars. Malt, honey, Karo or dextrose in the media will be caramelized. That makes it harder for the myc to colonize and easier for bacteria to eat. Don't go 90 min for agar.


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