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salviasandwich
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Erythroxylum coca seedling, Survived 2 weeks in the mail.
#22116642 - 08/20/15 01:01 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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 Gonna need some help, trying to nurture her back to health, The plant is coca and the strain is Erythroxylum from what I know Erythroxylum coca is the least adaptable strain, it likes constant conditions and Did not like being in an envelope for 2 weeks but she pulled through and survived then the mould hit her, it hit the leaves hardest, she's lost all her leaves. All I've got left is a green stem. Some mould turned the top bit brown and dead, fucking blue mould. the blue mould is long gone. So,
This is what I'm doing. I've kept it's climate and shit consistent, 10 hours of light and 12hours complete darkness also keep the humidity high by using a glass jar placed atop her. The soil is 1/3backyard compost humus(it was contaminated), 1/3 garden soil, 1/3 vermiculite. I should of sterilized the soil first. I have watered it every 2-3 days (watering only when the soil starts to dry), I mist it daily, my room temperature does fluctuate throughout the day only by +/- couple degrees. I've had this seedling almost 3 weeks now since the leaves dropped it has stopped all growth, the remaining stem is green and the roots are strong. I caught the contamination early the seedling may survive but only if it sends out new growth. so i'ma just hope for the best and wait.

This is my salvia set up was prob's a bad move I have my coca seedling under my salvia's lighting schedule. about 10 hours light.
 The humidity jar, I keep her at a constant 40-60% humidity now, dirty blue mould attacked at 90% humidity. 90% was to high, 40-60%
 Looks dead in this pic 
Edited by salviasandwich (08/20/15 02:04 PM)
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Re: Erythroxylum coca seedling, dying on me!?!? It barely Survived 2 weeks in the mail [Re: salviasandwich]
#22116726 - 08/20/15 01:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Its dead bro. Unless Coca is magic, a seedling will not survive mold, losing leaves and browning.
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Re: Erythroxylum coca seedling, dying on me!?!? It barely Survived 2 weeks in the mail [Re: kosmokratorshaman]
#22117072 - 08/20/15 02:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't believe they need that much humidity.
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Re: Erythroxylum coca seedling, dying on me!?!? It barely Survived 2 weeks in the mail [Re: ferrel_human]
#22117943 - 08/20/15 06:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yikes..... I hope it pulls through, but E. coca isn't known for being the hardiest plant.
Keep us updated.
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Re: Erythroxylum coca seedling, dying on me!?!? It barely Survived 2 weeks in the mail [Re: cowsRmeat]
#22120955 - 08/21/15 07:27 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Although E. coca likes water it needs a well-draining soil. I read something about using bonsai clay soils. Since it also likes a slightly acidic soil you definitely have to avoid vermiculite.
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Re: Erythroxylum coca seedling, dying on me!?!? It barely Survived 2 weeks in the mail [Re: grenouille]
#22121422 - 08/21/15 09:17 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Wrong, vermiculite is recommended for coca
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Re: Erythroxylum coca seedling, dying on me!?!? It barely Survived 2 weeks in the mail [Re: kosmokratorshaman]
#22121496 - 08/21/15 09:31 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Really? I figured it to be unsuitable due to its ability to retain moisture and its alkaline nature. Excuse me for my mistake then. Do you maybe have a reference? I have a hard time finding proper literature on coca cultivation.
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Re: Erythroxylum coca seedling, dying on me!?!? It barely Survived 2 weeks in the mail [Re: grenouille]
#22123136 - 08/21/15 03:46 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Welcome to the EG.
I put together a guide / pictorial on how I do it for novogranatense. You can find that here: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20215162
I would definitely NOT recommend vermiculite or at least not any sizable percentage in a soil mix.
Your photos are too blurry to give you an accurate assessment of the situation. E. novo can handle a lot of humidity. I don't know about the lower limits they can handle, but many of mine are in nearly 100% humidity all of the time and they seem to do just fine.
I would work on weening out of the jar and add some fresh airflow. I'd also switch to rain water or DI water as they don't like water with a lot of mineral content. Slightly acidic soil that is not nitrogen or mineral seems to be the way to go.
For the size seedling you have I'd do no larger than a 6x6x6 cm pot for now. Try to minimize root disturbance at all cost as regrowth takes some time. I'd probably mix up some soil and pasteurize it and try to transplant personally. Once the apical tip dies, then this seedlings is toast. Hopefully that won't happen.
Water enough so that the soil doesn't dry out, but don't keep it soaked constantly either. I kill the most seedlings as I'm trying to ween them out of a bag usually by letting the soil get to dry.
Good luck!
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Re: Erythroxylum coca seedling, dying on me!?!? It barely Survived 2 weeks in the mail [Re: naum]
#22123647 - 08/21/15 05:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sorry
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Re: Erythroxylum coca seedling, dying on me!?!? It barely Survived 2 weeks in the mail [Re: oriky]
#22125692 - 08/22/15 06:50 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I PMed the source because he is not a sponsor. His site has a pdf thst recommends vermiculite.
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Re: Erythroxylum coca seedling, dying on me!?!? It barely Survived 2 weeks in the mail [Re: naum]
#22126268 - 08/22/15 10:27 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
naum said: Welcome to the EG.
I put together a guide / pictorial on how I do it for novogranatense. You can find that here: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20215162
I would definitely NOT recommend vermiculite or at least not any sizable percentage in a soil mix.
Your photos are too blurry to give you an accurate assessment of the situation. E. novo can handle a lot of humidity. I don't know about the lower limits they can handle, but many of mine are in nearly 100% humidity all of the time and they seem to do just fine.
I would work on weening out of the jar and add some fresh airflow. I'd also switch to rain water or DI water as they don't like water with a lot of mineral content. Slightly acidic soil that is not nitrogen or mineral seems to be the way to go.
For the size seedling you have I'd do no larger than a 6x6x6 cm pot for now. Try to minimize root disturbance at all cost as regrowth takes some time. I'd probably mix up some soil and pasteurize it and try to transplant personally. Once the apical tip dies, then this seedlings is toast. Hopefully that won't happen.
Water enough so that the soil doesn't dry out, but don't keep it soaked constantly either. I kill the most seedlings as I'm trying to ween them out of a bag usually by letting the soil get to dry.
Good luck!
Thanks for sharing! Would love one of the novos one day.
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Re: Erythroxylum coca seedling, dying on me!?!? It barely Survived 2 weeks in the mail [Re: akosi]
#22133539 - 08/24/15 12:34 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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naum said: Welcome to the EG.
I put together a guide / pictorial on how I do it for novogranatense. You can find that here: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20215162
I would definitely NOT recommend vermiculite or at least not any sizable percentage in a soil mix.
Your photos are too blurry to give you an accurate assessment of the situation. E. novo can handle a lot of humidity. I don't know about the lower limits they can handle, but many of mine are in nearly 100% humidity all of the time and they seem to do just fine.
I would work on weening out of the jar and add some fresh airflow. I'd also switch to rain water or DI water as they don't like water with a lot of mineral content. Slightly acidic soil that is not nitrogen or mineral seems to be the way to go.
For the size seedling you have I'd do no larger than a 6x6x6 cm pot for now. Try to minimize root disturbance at all cost as regrowth takes some time. I'd probably mix up some soil and pasteurize it and try to transplant personally. Once the apical tip dies, then this seedlings is toast. Hopefully that won't happen.
Water enough so that the soil doesn't dry out, but don't keep it soaked constantly either. I kill the most seedlings as I'm trying to ween them out of a bag usually by letting the soil get to dry.
Good luck!
This is great information, Thanks! I'll try again with this strain though some novog. seeds would be better since i'm still a coca noob and the erythroxylon is a very delicate plant. but all the info will go far and help me cultivate this plant. So %100 humidity and bonsai soil, will do for my next plants. quick ??? How much light and water do you give your plants daily?? and apical tip, which part is this?
update on seedling It's dead, i'm in denial:P I still mist it and water it and it's even green, but Idk, no leaves no new growth it's just stem and root. Gonna change the soil and pray to the coca gods.
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Re: Erythroxylum coca seedling, dying on me!?!? It barely Survived 2 weeks in the mail [Re: salviasandwich]
#22133552 - 08/24/15 12:37 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sorry man. Looks pretty dead. Any update pics?
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Re: Erythroxylum coca seedling, dying on me!?!? It barely Survived 2 weeks in the mail [Re: cowsRmeat]
#22133890 - 08/24/15 04:19 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yikes..... I hope it pulls through, but E. coca isn't known for being the hardiest plant.
yeeye, the strains very picky and she's not healthy atm I hope my plant is just being a pussy and she grows some (metaphorical) balls. I Wish their was some way to tell if the roots are well right now their my only hope, if she survives then in celibration i'm buying some (metaphoric) coke! YAYO!
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Re: Erythroxylum coca seedling, dying on me!?!? It barely Survived 2 weeks in the mail [Re: ferrel_human]
#22133970 - 08/24/15 05:22 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Erythroxylum coca seedling, dying on me!?!? It barely Survived 2 weeks in the mail [Re: salviasandwich]
#22142171 - 08/25/15 05:50 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I can't see the pic...
But to answer one of your above questions, the apical meristem is basically the top of the stem where the plant is growing. It is the 'growth tip'.
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Re: Erythroxylum coca seedling, dying on me!?!? It barely Survived 2 weeks in the mail [Re: cowsRmeat]
#22146149 - 08/26/15 12:24 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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this parts died, it's toast.
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Re: Erythroxylum coca seedling, dying on me!?!? It barely Survived 2 weeks in the mail [Re: salviasandwich]
#22147812 - 08/26/15 05:36 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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That's too bad, man. Sry
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Re: Erythroxylum coca seedling, dying on me!?!? It barely Survived 2 weeks in the mail [Re: cowsRmeat]
#22152482 - 08/27/15 04:54 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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thanks eh man, no worries seedling was only $30
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Re: Erythroxylum coca seedling, dying on me!?!? It barely Survived 2 weeks in the mail [Re: salviasandwich]
#22152493 - 08/27/15 04:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks people for everyones knowledge, learned much from this thread. peace
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