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DANKSICLE
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What exactly is casing?
#22114650 - 08/19/15 11:03 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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So on my other posts people were telling me that both coir and Vermiculite is a subtrate (which is what the mushrooms actually fruit off of) so this whole time I thought the coir was casing used as nutrients. Now people are saying it's a subtrate. I think what I have is coir. The only thing that confused me is I bought it online as steralizrd horse manure labeled as casing. So what exactly am I dealing with. Also would mixing vermiculite with the manure and then putting it on top of a thick layer of perlite for my fruiting chamber.
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Re: What exactly is casing? [Re: DANKSICLE] 1
#22114658 - 08/19/15 11:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: What exactly is casing? [Re: DANKSICLE]
#22114661 - 08/19/15 11:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: What exactly is casing? [Re: DANKSICLE]
#22114669 - 08/19/15 11:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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DANKSICLE said: What exactly is casing?
Casing is the act of applying a non nutritious top layer to an already fully colonized substrate to aid in pinning and for some moisture retention.
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DANKSICLE said: So on my other posts people were telling me that both coir and Vermiculite is a subtrate (which is what the mushrooms actually fruit off of) so this whole time I thought the coir was casing used as nutrients. Now people are saying it's a subtrate. I think what I have is coir. The only thing that confused me is I bought it online as steralizrd horse manure labeled as casing. So what exactly am I dealing with. Also would mixing vermiculite with the manure and then putting it on top of a thick layer of perlite for my fruiting chamber.
The people u bought the manure from are idiots, and do not know the lingo.
If it says manure, it is manure, not coir.
Coir is coconut husk, also referred to as coco peat.
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Re: What exactly is casing? [Re: 36fuckin5]
#22114675 - 08/19/15 11:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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36fuckin5 said: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what+is+a+casing+layer%3F
You lazy fuck.
Except he did not ask what a casing layer was, he asked what a casing was....lol.
If he just searched for casing, he would still be confused.
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Edited by PussyFart (08/19/15 11:08 PM)
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Re: What exactly is casing? [Re: 36fuckin5]
#22114685 - 08/19/15 11:10 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: What exactly is casing? [Re: PussyFart]
#22114686 - 08/19/15 11:10 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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PussyFart said:
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36fuckin5 said: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what+is+a+casing+layer%3F
You lazy fuck.
Except he did not ask what a casing layer was, he asked what a casing was....lol.
If he just searched for casing, he would still be confused.
Maybe (definitely) I'm drunk, but I don't see a difference. How is a casing different from a casing layer? I always considered "casing" to be a verb, slang for applying a casing layer. My link explains that perfectly.
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Re: What exactly is casing? [Re: 36fuckin5]
#22114693 - 08/19/15 11:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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If he searched for "what is a casing", he would get the same confusing misinformation he already has...
If he searched for "what is a casing layer", then he might learn what was said above.....that one word, layer, throws a lot of people off lol.
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Re: What exactly is casing? [Re: PussyFart]
#22114698 - 08/19/15 11:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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or if he used our searchbar and "posted by pussyfart" he'd be a tc in 100 posts
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Re: What exactly is casing? [Re: cronicr]
#22114700 - 08/19/15 11:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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lol
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Re: What exactly is casing? [Re: cronicr]
#22114711 - 08/19/15 11:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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cronicr said: or if he used our searchbar and "posted by pussyfart" he'd be a tc in 100 posts
For real though. People think it's so hard. PF has a damn text file with everything you need to know, fits in one post and applies (for the most part) to all saphrophytic fungi.
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Re: What exactly is casing? [Re: 36fuckin5]
#22114717 - 08/19/15 11:18 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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36fuckin5 said: PF has a damn text file with everything you need to know, fits in one post and applies (for the most part) to all saphrophytic fungi.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=17186530&page=0&vc=1#17186530
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Re: What exactly is casing? [Re: PussyFart]
#22114745 - 08/19/15 11:25 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Adding verm to grains tends to help make up for sloppy preparation but leads to invitro pin formation in the jars. RR
How? Absorbing extra moisture? How much verm?
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Re: What exactly is casing? [Re: taGyo]
#22114758 - 08/19/15 11:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I would guess because of the nutrients verm provides. It's that little bit of extra they need to get their dicks up.
That's pure speculation though.
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Re: What exactly is casing? [Re: DANKSICLE]
#22115292 - 08/20/15 04:04 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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DANKSICLE said: Also would mixing vermiculite with the manure and then putting it on top of a thick layer of perlite for my fruiting chamber.
so my coffee hasn't kicked in yet, excuse me if I got this wrong...
but what? the sentence doesn't make sense... are you proposing to mix colonised spawn with verm and manure and then placing it directly on top of perlite?
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Re: What exactly is casing? [Re: keeno] 1
#22115510 - 08/20/15 06:22 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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This website is here to teach. I like posting specific scenarios and get tips from that. Can't hate on that guys.
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Re: What exactly is casing? [Re: DANKSICLE]
#22115523 - 08/20/15 06:29 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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what are you planning to use as a fruiting chamber? u might be getting TEKs mixed up.
u don't want ur bulk substrate to be laying on top of and touching perlite. it can be in a tray thats sitting on top of a layer of perlite, like an SGFC, but they won't be directly touching.
for a monotub, perlite is not gonna do much of anything almost anywhere u put it.
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Re: What exactly is casing? [Re: DANKSICLE]
#22116173 - 08/20/15 10:41 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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yeah sorry, wasn't hating, just didn't understand what you were saying
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Re: What exactly is casing? [Re: keeno] 1
#22116211 - 08/20/15 10:50 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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keeno said:
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DANKSICLE said: Also would mixing vermiculite with the manure and then putting it on top of a thick layer of perlite for my fruiting chamber.
so my coffee hasn't kicked in yet, excuse me if I got this wrong...
but what? the sentence doesn't make sense... are you proposing to mix colonised spawn with verm and manure and then placing it directly on top of perlite?
lol.. It's not even a question... I assumed the same thing...
This is for bulk no? Why is perlite involved?
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I would guess because of the nutrients verm provides.
Which nutrients does it supply?
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