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Cactus ID, no poaching
    #22114412 - 08/19/15 09:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)



Is this worth digging up? The owner is removing all plants from the front of her house, this poor yellow thing looks like a Tricho to me but I could be wrong. Help ID please!


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Re: Cactus ID, no poaching [Re: Convergence]
    #22114520 - 08/19/15 10:26 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Kinda looks like it to me
edit:like san pedro


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Re: Cactus ID, no poaching [Re: impatientguy]
    #22114742 - 08/19/15 11:24 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

san pedro...and its either severely sun bleached or a variegate


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Re: Cactus ID, no poaching [Re: kosmokratorshaman]
    #22114845 - 08/19/15 11:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

can it be saved? all i have to do is dig it up. Here's a better shot

What's wrong with him and how to save him.


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Re: Cactus ID, no poaching [Re: Convergence]
    #22115159 - 08/20/15 02:10 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

It can definitely be saved. It's just been in too much sun for too long and it's Yellowed because of it. Once in a new home, in less light, the new growth should be green and the Yellow parts may become Greener, but not like a normal plant would be. I'd personally cut it up into cuttings and root them. The new growth that emerges will be nice and Green.

To dig it up I would dig around the outside perimeter of the stones that are already around it. That will give you a sufficient rootball to work with, if you choose to re pot it. Go down a spade's depth and then pry it out of the ground. Cut and bottom roots still attached in the ground with the spade. Once out you would allow the root ball to heal for a couple of weeks unpotted, and then pot it up in a new pot, or in the ground.


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Re: Cactus ID, no poaching [Re: karode13]
    #22115798 - 08/20/15 08:53 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Mine stay nice and green in full sun as long as they get enough water and nutrients.
I'm near the coast though, so I don't usually get extreme heat.


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Re: Cactus ID, no poaching [Re: nicechrisman]
    #22116525 - 08/20/15 12:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I bet it's a potent ass cactus ATM because of the stress it's been under for possibly it's entire life. If you just want to trip ID make a tea from it and reduce it down. About a pound and a half is a good dose imo.

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Re: Cactus ID, no poaching [Re: impatientguy]
    #22116739 - 08/20/15 01:24 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I bet it's a potent ass cactus ATM because of the stress it's been under for possibly it's entire life. If you just want to trip ID make a tea from it and reduce it down. About a pound and a half is a good dose imo.

Just saying haha




Considering stress being a precursor for alkaloid production is only a theory, might not be a good idea.


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Re: Cactus ID, no poaching [Re: nicechrisman]
    #22118084 - 08/20/15 06:48 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Mine stay nice and green in full sun as long as they get enough water and nutrients.
I'm near the coast though, so I don't usually get extreme heat.





You're not very familiar with Western Australia's weather are you? It gets very, very hot and the Sun is extreme at times.


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Re: Cactus ID, no poaching [Re: kosmokratorshaman]
    #22118793 - 08/20/15 09:24 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Considering stress being a precursor for alkaloid production is only a theory, might not be a good idea.






True but if the lady is getting g rid of it anyways then what are you losing? I say do it and tell us how potent the cacti ends up being. Then we will have an idea on whether stress does build up alkaloids excessively or whether it doesn't. 

I'm not sure though just guessing.
I'm already high on mescaline so I guess do whatever you want hahahah


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Re: Cactus ID, no poaching [Re: impatientguy]
    #22118815 - 08/20/15 09:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Then we will have an idea on whether stress does build up alkaloids excessively or whether it doesn't. 





Not at all. You'd need a control to figure out if there was any change. And a bioassay doesn't count, as the experience is subjective, it needs to be extracted and compared to the control.


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Re: Cactus ID, no poaching [Re: karode13]
    #22119156 - 08/20/15 10:03 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Well yeah we would have to extract the pure alkaloids from the cacti to know how much was in there.

That's simple enough to do though.

All I'm saying is that looks like the perfect specimen to try the extraction on to see if the yeilds at are higher than that of your "average" san pedro. Then we will have an idea on whether stress does build up alkaloids excessively or whether it doesn't.



Happy now karode13? Haha jk


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Re: Cactus ID, no poaching [Re: impatientguy]
    #22119182 - 08/20/15 10:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

For it to work properly you would nee at least 2 clones from th esame plant. 1 heavily stressed and the other grown properly.


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Re: Cactus ID, no poaching [Re: spaceman101]
    #22119210 - 08/20/15 10:23 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah thats true I guess
 

I'm just glad that the San pedro I buy is at least "average" potentcy haha



But I would love to see a thread with an experiment like what you just mentioned spaceman


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Re: Cactus ID, no poaching [Re: impatientguy]
    #22119316 - 08/20/15 10:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I would to:wink:


Might be something I have to test next year.

I was thinking about using this bridge


and take the 2 top Pups and grow them out on their own stressing one heavily. I just don't consume my cacti so I'd probably send them to someone I trust to do the experiment.

Karode would you be down?


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Re: Cactus ID, no poaching [Re: spaceman101]
    #22119577 - 08/21/15 12:12 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Gosh I hope you do this experiment!! :goodnews:  good news everyone! I've just heard that stress causes more potent cacti!


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Re: Cactus ID, no poaching [Re: spaceman101]
    #22119582 - 08/21/15 12:13 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Have you tried consuming any mescaline yet?


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Re: Cactus ID, no poaching [Re: impatientguy]
    #22119624 - 08/21/15 12:29 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I attempted it years ago but I wasn't able to get enough down to make it worth my while. I just Love my plants and I don't wanna do them any harm with my own hands. It's kind of like juicing your children IMO.


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Re: Cactus ID, no poaching [Re: spaceman101]
    #22119728 - 08/21/15 01:03 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Darn I see.



:goodnews:Well more for meee! Haha


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