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this look right
#22113804 - 08/19/15 07:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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i used 2 pounds of grain one brf cake and 5 pounds of compost with a casing layer
i think i might be put it into fruiting too early but from what ive seen and past grows i think it doesnt really matter.. does it
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Re: does this look right [Re: moehd]
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Re: does this look right [Re: moehd]
#22113861 - 08/19/15 07:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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You edited your post BEFORE you bumped your thread with a new post, clearly demonstrating that you know how to use the edit feature, but didn't. What.. happened here? 
If that has a casing layer it's probably fine to be in fruiting. How many days?
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Re: does this look right [Re: Inocuole]
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Inocuole said: You edited your post BEFORE you bumped your thread with a new post, clearly demonstrating that you know how to use the edit feature, but didn't. What.. happened here? 
i had to crop out the mess in the backround
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Inocuole said: If that has a casing layer it's probably fine to be in fruiting. How many days?
its been sitting covered for 10 days
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Re: does this look right [Re: Inocuole]
#22113882 - 08/19/15 08:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ouch, if that's ten days there's probably a problem. Did you mix the grains up real well and then add a psuedo-casing? (Top layer)
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Re: does this look right [Re: taGyo]
#22113890 - 08/19/15 08:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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taGyo said: Ouch, if that's ten days there's probably a problem. Did you mix the grains up real well and then add a psuedo-casing? (Top layer)
no i fucked up i bet most of the grains were on the bottom
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Re: does this look right [Re: moehd]
#22113897 - 08/19/15 08:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ahh.
Just wait it out. I did a similar thing on my first ever mono and it produced great. Just wait it out until it looks white or stalls for a few days and fruit it.
Next time mix it together well
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Re: does this look right [Re: moehd]
#22113909 - 08/19/15 08:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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You should have mixed the grain spawn thoroughly. I don't really think that this is going to turn out good for you. But, you can always wait and see what happens...
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Re: does this look right [Re: taGyo]
#22113912 - 08/19/15 08:10 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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taGyo said: Ahh.
Just wait it out. I did a similar thing on my first ever mono and it produced great. Just wait it out until it looks white or stalls for a few days and fruit it.
Next time mix it together well 
lol i dont want to put aluminum foil on i again now that its all humid cant i just let it sit in fruiting...till it fruits
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Re: does this look right [Re: moehd]
#22113915 - 08/19/15 08:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Do whatever, if it's been 10 days it's either ready to fruit, or there's a problem. Either way, you'll find out soon. Leave it how it is.
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Re: does this look right [Re: GerG]
#22113930 - 08/19/15 08:14 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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GerG said: You should have mixed the grain spawn thoroughly. I don't really think that this is going to turn out good for you. But, you can always wait and see what happens...
the mycelium that is at the top is the same as on the bottom it'll use the nutrients evenly across the whole substrate....right
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Re: does this look right [Re: moehd]
#22113937 - 08/19/15 08:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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actually now that i remember it was last friday so 6 days
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Re: does this look right [Re: moehd]
#22113950 - 08/19/15 08:18 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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You're fine then lol.
I mean it's still fucked because it should be way whiter then that but it's all good. Just wait it out.
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Re: does this look right [Re: taGyo]
#22113959 - 08/19/15 08:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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how long should it take to fruit like 8 more days?
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Re: does this look right [Re: moehd]
#22113963 - 08/19/15 08:23 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I can't tell you that.
Wait till it stalls or goes all white Depends on how aggressive your culture is and where exactly your grains are.
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Re: does this look right [Re: moehd]
#22113970 - 08/19/15 08:24 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Only time will tell.
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Re: does this look right [Re: GerG]
#22113988 - 08/19/15 08:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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tasmanians are supposed to be a extremely aggressive colonizer
but im not convinced on the fully white thing because casings dont have to be fully white
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Re: does this look right [Re: moehd]
#22114002 - 08/19/15 08:32 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Did you case or add a top layer bro? If you added a top layer on the exposed grains then yes, it goes fully white. If you cased you wait until 30%.
There are two different layers. Psuedo-Casing (Which is the top layer on the exposed grains during colonization for an even substrate and to prevent grains from drying out) and a casing (the micro-climate you can fruit immediately or get to 30% and then fruit). You have a psuedo-casing brotha, you have to wait for that to go 100% white and then case or just fruit it.
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Re: does this look right [Re: taGyo]
#22114006 - 08/19/15 08:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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He said he cased it Gyo, what are you on about? Read the first post.
Though I guess it's up to him to tell us what he cased it with and when. A casing layer of CVG is just a psuedo casing if you apply it during the spawn run.
I suppose I was assuming he didn't do that.
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Re: does this look right [Re: Inocuole]
#22114027 - 08/19/15 08:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hamloaf just corrected me on this lol.
I'll find the post.
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Re: does this look right [Re: Inocuole]
#22114032 - 08/19/15 08:36 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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the casing layer is organic peat moss, coarse vermiculite, hydrated lime (for pH adjustment), and granular gypsum
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Re: does this look right [Re: moehd]
#22114036 - 08/19/15 08:37 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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So you waited until it went all white and then cased it, correct?
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Re: does this look right [Re: moehd]
#22114039 - 08/19/15 08:37 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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smells like a wet cinder block
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Re: does this look right [Re: moehd]
#22114041 - 08/19/15 08:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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That's very specific.
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Re: does this look right [Re: taGyo]
#22114045 - 08/19/15 08:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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taGyo said: So you waited until it went all white and then cased it, correct?
no mixed grains then put the casing ontop
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Re: does this look right [Re: moehd]
#22114051 - 08/19/15 08:39 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hmm... even then, if it's that far through a peat casing I'd say it'd good for fruiting.
I don't think that's when you're supposed to apply a casing though, for future reference. Though if it works, can't argue..
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Re: does this look right [Re: Inocuole]
#22114056 - 08/19/15 08:40 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: Hmm... even then, if it's that far through a peat casing I'd say it'd good for fruiting.
I don't think that's when you're supposed to apply a casing though, for future reference. Though if it works, can't argue..

That's where I got confused lol. I thought he was asking if it was time to apply a casing.
I'd def fruit that then, it's probably all white underneath that.
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Re: does this look right [Re: taGyo]
#22114066 - 08/19/15 08:42 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: Hmm... even then, if it's that far through a peat casing I'd say it'd good for fruiting.
I don't think that's when you're supposed to apply a casing though, for future reference. Though if it works, can't argue..

That's where I got confused lol. I thought he was asking if it was time to apply a casing.
I'd def fruit that then, it's probably all white underneath that.
yea i was waiting to see white all across the board as soon as i did fruited it
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Re: does this look right [Re: Inocuole]
#22114074 - 08/19/15 08:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: Hmm... even then, if it's that far through a peat casing I'd say it'd good for fruiting.
I don't think that's when you're supposed to apply a casing though, for future reference. Though if it works, can't argue..
yea but i got duped but the description and granular gypsum (supplementing the mix with calcium and sulfur—essential elements for fruit body formation).
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Re: does this look right [Re: moehd]
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Re: does this look right [Re: moehd]
#22157555 - 08/28/15 05:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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more pins incoming
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Re: does this look right [Re: moehd]
#22157557 - 08/28/15 05:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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That looks pretty unhealthy. Looks like bacteria.
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Re: does this look right [Re: moehd]
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Re: does this look right [Re: moehd]
#22157566 - 08/28/15 05:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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maybe but its not hard i can decompress it
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Re: does this look right [Re: moehd]
#22157594 - 08/28/15 05:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah, deconmpressing isn't a good sign,
Can you peel it off pretty easily or is it glued on there? Does it bruise blue?
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Re: does this look right [Re: taGyo]
#22157629 - 08/28/15 05:22 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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i can take it off it turns really blue
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Re: does this look right [Re: moehd]
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Keep an eye on it, I'm still pretty sure that's bacteria unless you just misted?
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Re: does this look right [Re: taGyo]
#22157944 - 08/28/15 06:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Definitely something funky.
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Re: does this look right [Re: Inocuole]
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What makes you say that Fox?
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Re: does this look right [Re: taGyo]
#22157985 - 08/28/15 06:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I feel like that's getting thrown around as a buzzword now. Seen people calling stuff vert when it doesn't really look like it.
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Re: does this look right [Re: taGyo]
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Brown spot(s) on the base of the pins. Also, the pinheads look necrotic
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I think that's the pic brotha.
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Could be, but there's so much nasty shit going on in there it's hard to say.
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Re: does this look right [Re: Inocuole]
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Last time I checked it was summer... Contams are more rampant during this season.. Due to it being the hottest of the four temperament seasons.
Vert can easily get brought home by the cultivator on his/her clothing etc.
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Pasty was just saying vert is death. I never realized culting in summer sucked so much lol. But then again even growing weed is easier/better in the winter because you don't have to worry about heat as much if you run 1000ws.
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Re: does this look right [Re: Inocuole]
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Inocuole said: Could be, but there's so much nasty shit going on in there it's hard to say.
Like what, exactly?
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Oh I dunno, the weird ass masses of crazy looking mycelium, inconsistent growth patterns, what appears to be pooling metabolites, and weak ass fruits? This shit is nasty man. It's nastier than just vert, that's for sure.
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Re: does this look right [Re: Inocuole]
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I see what I think is bacteria out the game, heavy balling like that is always an issue. It also looks wet as fuck in there.
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Re: does this look right [Re: Inocuole]
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Oh I dunno, the weird ass masses of crazy looking mycelium, inconsistent growth patterns, what appears to be pooling metabolites, and weak ass fruits? This shit is nasty man. It's nastier than just vert, that's for sure.
lol I guess you've never encountered vert in one of your own personal grows..
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I can't be 100% sure if I have or not but I've never had anything looking like what OP has. If that's 100% vert and nothing else I'll eat a sock.
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Re: does this look right [Re: Inocuole]
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Its not tht serious.. But if you really need an excuse to eat a sock then I guess,
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I have several clean pair of socks and a big bottle of bbq sauce. All I need is the proof.
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Re: does this look right [Re: taGyo]
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taGyo said: I see what I think is bacteria out the game, heavy balling like that is always an issue. It also looks wet as fuck in there.
that shit eats bacteria for breakfast. there could be vert there but its not the only thing.
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I mean I figured there were multiple problems there, vert eats bacteria?
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Re: does this look right [Re: taGyo]
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no not that vert or anything eats bacteria, it was just a joke, just those big fluffy balls and the one with metabolites on top is some nasty shit! just get that thing out OP, nothing good can come from keeping that stuff!
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Re: does this look right [Re: taGyo]
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Re: does this look right [Re: moehd]
#22158629 - 08/28/15 10:06 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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i know itll grow just fine
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Re: does this look right [Re: moehd]
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going back yo my op
itll look right when the shrooms fully develop
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Re: does this look right [Re: moehd]
#22158888 - 08/28/15 11:32 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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So you're saying that something that looks like that, will eventually turn out to look right?
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Re: does this look right [Re: moehd]
#22159171 - 08/29/15 02:08 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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moehd said: i know itll grow just fine 
you might get sick doing that one day.
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Re: does this look right [Re: newrook]
#22159256 - 08/29/15 03:40 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Stop f'ing with the casing and let it grow.
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Re: does this look right [Re: tahoe]
#22159523 - 08/29/15 07:44 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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all of my grows looked like shit however they still flushed up to 4 times and made me trip balls
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Re: does this look right [Re: moehd]
#22159729 - 08/29/15 08:54 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Do you use agar? 'Cause you need to clean up your innoculant. I promise it's not supposed to look like that.
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Re: does this look right [Re: taGyo]
#22174200 - 09/01/15 02:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: does this look right [Re: moehd]
#22177337 - 09/02/15 08:24 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: does this look right [Re: moehd]
#22177343 - 09/02/15 08:25 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: does this look right [Re: moehd]
#22177349 - 09/02/15 08:27 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Came to 350g wet
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Re: does this look right [Re: moehd]
#22177362 - 09/02/15 08:31 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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it still dosent look right
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Re: does this look right [Re: moehd]
#22177389 - 09/02/15 08:50 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Low fae, bacteria, and mycogone are infecting your substrates. Especially:
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all of my grows looked like shit however they still flushed up to 4 times and made me trip balls
All of these are problems of not only needing to do agar work, but also having a high co2 environment. Work on your chamber man. Adjust the poly or something. They need much more fae, and probably more light too (small ass caps).
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Re: does this look right [Re: Mad Season]
#22177671 - 09/02/15 10:51 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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yea i was smoking in my room and the window wouldnt be open also the grow is in the bottom of my closet
no smoking
put it in the middle of room
mist less fan more
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Re: does this look right [Re: moehd]
#22177688 - 09/02/15 10:56 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Just need to adjust poly. Fanning doesnt replace fae. Keep it glistening/damp with no pooling water (droplets are fine). Some days I don't mist because it's glistening. Other days I mist twice because it's dry. Just mist when needed and adjust poly as needed. 
Some tubs don't need to be misted until 2nd flush. It's really all about just misting when needed.
Edited by Mad Season (09/02/15 10:57 AM)
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Re: does this look right [Re: Mad Season]
#22178389 - 09/02/15 02:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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oh i was misting every day twice
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Re: does this look right [Re: moehd]
#22236189 - 09/14/15 11:31 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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caps are bigger sunlight actually works
i quit cigarettes so no more co2 in the air and slowed down on the misting
thats the third flush 328 g wet
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Re: does this look right [Re: moehd]
#22236494 - 09/14/15 12:50 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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nice 3rd flush soon you'll see beautiful flushes every grow .
Edited by Mad Season (09/14/15 12:52 PM)
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Re: does this look right [Re: Mad Season]
#22236607 - 09/14/15 01:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: does this look right [Re: taGyo]
#22269529 - 09/21/15 01:50 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: does this look right [Re: moehd]
#22269535 - 09/21/15 01:51 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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i added a cake i found... think itll fruit
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Re: does this look right [Re: moehd]
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