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OfflineBitter Cactus
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Re: I am enlightened but can't stand living in society. [Re: thelanzii]
    #22114985 - 08/20/15 12:24 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Nemmies said:
you're not the one jaded with society

your personal pleasure doesn't change the facts

society would and the world would be a much better place if we stopped eating meat




That's your personal choice to not eat meat. Now stop telling everyone what to do.


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Re: I am enlightened but can't stand living in society. [Re: Bitter Cactus] * 1
    #22114990 - 08/20/15 12:26 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Well I am going to have to disagree with you there. My statement is an expression of what I am feeling therefore you have no right to call it bullshit. I will say that I am not enlightened in a way that people think. I am no dali lama or buddah or what ever. What I mean when I say I am enlightened is that I can't stare at a tree without smiling. I can't look up into the sky without amazement. I can't look at the life I am experiencing and think that its not fantastic. I can't look at my friends and family without pure love. Now I've always believed that this is true enlightenment to be so joyful of the life you have. I have achieved this type of enlightenment( or what ever you want to call it) not by being high but by realizing things under the influence of psychedelic drugs. I've realized so much and with the realizations came the active changes that I have applied to myself and this lead to my legitimate happiness. It's like taking useful advice from someone wise and trying it out so to just dismiss the fact that psychedelics are significant when it comes to this is bullshit. Also the way you think is the way of a completely conformed capitalist. I feel like I covered enough with you and if you want to get into politics let me know because I am a socialist and would be happy to share some ideas with you.

Edit: Also I have never bought the people that claim to be enlightened in the way that everyone imagines. The priests,the rabbis,the monks etc.. I feel like all these people are running away from themselves by labeling and convincing them selves that they are one with god and/or the world which I am not claiming.


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Re: I am enlightened but can't stand living in society. [Re: LiquidVisions]
    #22114993 - 08/20/15 12:27 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Sounds pretty awesome to me


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Re: I am enlightened but can't stand living in society. [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22115000 - 08/20/15 12:29 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Bitter Cactus said:
Quote:

Nemmies said:
you're not the one jaded with society

your personal pleasure doesn't change the facts

society would and the world would be a much better place if we stopped eating meat




That's your personal choice to not eat meat. Now stop telling everyone what to do.



it's a personal choice to eat a dog or a child too

im telling everyone how to improve society
he can't stand living in society,
2 of his complaints in the op were slaughter and fat people
both meat related


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Re: I am enlightened but can't stand living in society. [Re: thelanzii]
    #22115009 - 08/20/15 12:32 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Human beings are omnivores we have wisdom teeth in order to chew hard foods like leaves..roots..nuts....and meat. The mass production of meat is awful and I agree but as for the disease thing...wouldn't that be in conjunction with everything else we do in western society? It's pretty hard to say that meat itself causes the disease meanwhile we clean our houses with man made chemicals and inhale gas fumes all day. Its more than meat consumption that leads to this issues.


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Re: I am enlightened but can't stand living in society. [Re: nicechrisman]
    #22115018 - 08/20/15 12:37 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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nicechrisman said:
Sounds pretty awesome to me



Thanks man


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Re: I am enlightened but can't stand living in society. [Re: LiquidVisions]
    #22115021 - 08/20/15 12:39 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

want some respected sources on why heart disease one of the leading killers is so prevalent in america and even australia?
want sources on cancer related to meat production?

longest living cultures in the world eat little meat

you still contribute to mass production of meat though, i thought you were all about love and creating a better society?

take a gander at our teeth




go kill and bite into a freshly killed rabbit and tell me how well our teeth work


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Re: I am enlightened but can't stand living in society. [Re: thelanzii]
    #22115030 - 08/20/15 12:43 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I'll look into it im not going to dismiss your what you are saying. I am definitely not gonna bite into a rabbit, I have a pet one and I don't even let him stay in his cage. I love that little guy.


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Re: I am enlightened but can't stand living in society. [Re: LiquidVisions]
    #22115039 - 08/20/15 12:49 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

i have had similar thoughts from psychs
but being jaded for me wasn't positive
i have to function in society or live in the woods alone which would suck balls
i try to keep with an attitude of gratitude
humans are pretty fucked where ever you go
i simply try to be the change

we are all ruled by sex greed and fear

but we have the capacity for good

which starts at an individual level


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Re: I am enlightened but can't stand living in society. [Re: thelanzii]
    #22115052 - 08/20/15 12:53 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Nemmies said:
want some respected sources on why heart disease one of the leading killers is so prevalent in america and even australia?
want sources on cancer related to meat production?

longest living cultures in the world eat little meat

you still contribute to mass production of meat though, i thought you were all about love and creating a better society?

take a gander at our teeth




go kill and bite into a freshly killed rabbit and tell me how well our teeth work




This is hippy propaganda. You can eat salad for every meal of the day, but boy oh boy this bitter cactus enjoys the fuck out of a greasy hamburger every once in a while. Honestly if I couldn't eat meat for the rest of the life I would blow my brains out.

I LOVE THE TASTE OF MEAT. It is so god damn delicious I try to eat meat for every meal of the day besides breakfast, but even then adding some bacon to my breakfast makes it so much better.

I love stake, I love pork chops, I love hamburger, I love bancon.


Life without meat is not a life I would want to live. I don't know how vegetarians can live without a legit source of protein. My sis is mostly vegetarian and has to eat tha disgusting tofu shit and make shakes all the time just to have an adequate amount of protein and b vitamins to survive. Honestly fuck the hippy vegetarian wombo jombo and stick it up your you know what.


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Re: I am enlightened but can't stand living in society. [Re: Bitter Cactus] * 1
    #22115066 - 08/20/15 01:00 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)



ur not bout the greater good
its hardly hippie bs
i wear a suit and tie brah


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Re: I am enlightened but can't stand living in society. [Re: thelanzii]
    #22115971 - 08/20/15 09:47 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Heart disease and cancer are major killers because we live to a much older age.  We didn't evolve to live much past 30.  Too many cell reproductions cause DNA fatigue and the heart just wears out over time.  It's just a muscle and so are your arteries.  Do you realize how horrible animal deaths are in nature?  Ever see a video of a bunch of lions eating the guts of a still alive wildebeest?  I have.  They live their lives in constant fear of predation and starvation.  Farm animals don't.  They are fed and killed swiftly.

Community service?  Here's my community service.  Two grand a month in property taxes.


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Re: I am enlightened but can't stand living in society. [Re: nicechrisman]
    #22116191 - 08/20/15 10:43 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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nicechrisman said:
Some say we all are and the clarity of it is just obscured by our delusions.





this


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Re: I am enlightened but can't stand living in society. [Re: ReposadoXochipilli]
    #22116286 - 08/20/15 11:25 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Man do I feel that way when I'm coming down, talking to sober people.... I can see the awareness of truth in their face and then watch them swallow it down to play the ignorance/delusion game.  Like they don't think they deserve to function from there or are so used to their daily "ho hum" character and/or their self-imposed limitations...

:shrug:

Still; divine.


Maybe these games have been necessary or useful up to this point.  But I have been feeling the Apocalypse; the ongoing revealing. 

What do we care to create from here?

OP: Maybe consider asserting your sovereignty to step out from standing under/upholding the government corporations.  That's one of the best ways I can see to both physical freedom and bettering the world.

I like the work of Robert Menard (and the Freeman Society):  "Your rights end where my nose begins".

"The true test of a free society is the freedom to leave."


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1)Combo of oral DMT + smoked Bufotenine
2)Amanita (urine drank twice)
3)Mushrooms > Achuma 16"+cid(still need higher dose Achuma)> Cid (still need high dose)
4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators)
5)Salvia (need to try quid)


All readable matter in the above post is ficticious... any similarities to real life are purely coincidental.

Blessing.


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Re: I am enlightened but can't stand living in society. [Re: flickedbic]
    #22116347 - 08/20/15 11:45 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

everybody here has valid inputs

I really njoyed reading this thread.


our brains are mysterious indeed !


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Re: I am enlightened but can't stand living in society. [Re: LiquidVisions]
    #22116638 - 08/20/15 01:01 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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LiquidVisions said:
Quote:

morrowasted said:
When was the last time you did some community service, OP? I am guessing it has been a long time.



Well thats irrelevant. However I service people who need help every time I see the opportunity. I don't want to be egotistic and talk about it but I do. Also community service isn't gonna change a damn thing what we need is revolution. GLOBAL REVOLUTION! We just need to create a different and hopefully sustainable way of doing things which is what I try to achieve. I am a political activist, I don't pick up trash from the side of a highway.



If everyone did community service, government and politics would be unnecessary and irrelevant.


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Re: I am enlightened but can't stand living in society. [Re: LiquidVisions]
    #22116686 - 08/20/15 01:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

LiquidVisions said:
Well I am going to have to disagree with you there. My statement is an expression of what I am feeling therefore you have no right to call it bullshit. I will say that I am not enlightened in a way that people think. I am no dali lama or buddah or what ever. What I mean when I say I am enlightened is that I can't stare at a tree without smiling. I can't look up into the sky without amazement. I can't look at the life I am experiencing and think that its not fantastic. I can't look at my friends and family without pure love. Now I've always believed that this is true enlightenment to be so joyful of the life you have. I have achieved this type of enlightenment( or what ever you want to call it) not by being high but by realizing things under the influence of psychedelic drugs. I've realized so much and with the realizations came the active changes that I have applied to myself and this lead to my legitimate happiness. It's like taking useful advice from someone wise and trying it out so to just dismiss the fact that psychedelics are significant when it comes to this is bullshit. Also the way you think is the way of a completely conformed capitalist. I feel like I covered enough with you and if you want to get into politics let me know because I am a socialist and would be happy to share some ideas with you.

Edit: Also I have never bought the people that claim to be enlightened in the way that everyone imagines. The priests,the rabbis,the monks etc.. I feel like all these people are running away from themselves by labeling and convincing them selves that they are one with god and/or the world which I am not claiming.




The fact you see things that way makes you much more enlightened than most of the other people on the board. So don't care what other people think.
Also what you said about conformity is true.
I did kundalini meditation for 5 years and I withdrew from society by doing so, now that I have enlightened and empowered myself I have to go back to doing basic physical exercises like running so I can re-adjust and re-enter society.


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Re: I am enlightened but can't stand living in society. [Re: thelanzii] * 1
    #22117233 - 08/20/15 03:23 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Nemmies said:


ur not bout the greater good
its hardly hippie bs
i wear a suit and tie brah




that's hansel, he's so hot right now


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Re: I am enlightened but can't stand living in society. [Re: LiquidVisions] * 1
    #22127722 - 08/22/15 04:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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LiquidVisions said:
Hey everyone after my last few trips I've learned so much about the actual world and the universe itself. I've been generally happier with the simple things in life but can't stand society. It is gross and unnatural I just can't be a part of it. I want to quit my job and focus on my creative work I want to just say fuck this and live in a country that want built by the slaughter of natural people and slavery. It pisses me off so much and the vicious cycle just continues. The oppression the sadness the overall lazy species that we have become due to western influence is just pissing me off. I work in service and can't stand to see obese people ordering extra white rice and pork with all their meals. What should I do? I can't conform anymore.



I will take a lot of time to make myeslf clear with this post. I can relate to you as a person quite a bit

But first off, what is clearly present is the "I'm different than everyone" type of stuff. You look around you and you feel so incredibly dissatisfied with the endless debauchery and premarital sex you see around you. I viewed people's lives and wondered how anyone can be happy continuing thier existence having such an unfullfilled existence. I have been there

You just want the whole world to drop acid and realize what you are experiecing

You tripped on shrooms a few times and you have had a strong shift in perception. And I am very happy for you. But generally the best way to start changing the world is by working on yourself. Thats the conclusion I came to at least. Telling others that you are better than them makes you come off as preachy and annoying. Although you mean well, it is not tolerated well by others

So instead I suggest a few things:
Try and take on a different outlook. More along the lines of "I want to use the rest of my life trying to have others experience what I experience. This beauty is too amazing"
In addition, I would say meditation has helped me immensely. When I was in the phase that you currently in, meditation took me to a whole new level. I began LIVE what I believed in. I began to also learn to live in day to day society despite my disgust with it. I also began to live life as a hippie at heart, but on the outside going through the motions. By reading and meditating for an hour a day, the past 2 years have been wonderful for me. I am able to live that middle ground between complete hippie and corporate bitch

I go to school/work, do my duty, and in my free time I spend time reading, journaling, meditating, working out, tripping, and being thankful for life. I feel that by doing this, by SHOWING people that there's more to life than social networks, raves, parties, and debauchery, I have helped at least 1-2 people improve their lives. Its not that I am "special". Its just that I have stumbled across a set of ideas that could greatly improve people's lives. And I like the idea of spreading it


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