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Ganoderma on a Peach Tree Stump
    #22112125 - 08/19/15 02:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

This is growing on a peach tree stump.  Last week, I thought it was looking like a possible Ganoderma tsugae like based on the pinning, although it's not a conifer:



But now I'm not sure what it is.  White pores on the bottom.  Lacquer shiny and red stem.  Perfectly circular top.  It's still fairly young. 



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Re: Ganoderma on a Peach Tree Stump [Re: Jumpingfish]
    #22112169 - 08/19/15 02:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I would say Ganoderma tsugae for sure:thumbup:


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Re: Ganoderma on a Peach Tree Stump [Re: kactus.brand.g]
    #22112254 - 08/19/15 02:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Can you prick the white edge and see if it bleeds a yellow resin?





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Re: Ganoderma on a Peach Tree Stump [Re: Mrcloudy]
    #22112436 - 08/19/15 03:06 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Ok, I gave it 3 pricks with a pin and waited 15 to 20 minutes.  Nothing came out:



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Re: Ganoderma on a Peach Tree Stump [Re: Jumpingfish]
    #22112545 - 08/19/15 03:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I don't think it is tsugae but let it grow out a bit more, when it is mature cut it in half and we can take a look at the cross section.


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Re: Ganoderma on a Peach Tree Stump [Re: Mrcloudy]
    #22112614 - 08/19/15 03:42 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

You know what,I bet it's Ganoderma curtisii,because it's on a hardwood.
Ganoderma tsugae grows on conifers,which peach wood is not,boy I'm an idiot:facepalm:


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Re: Ganoderma on a Peach Tree Stump [Re: kactus.brand.g]
    #22112628 - 08/19/15 03:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I always thought the ones I found in Kentucky were tsugae,but now I'm confident that my finds were in fact curtisii.


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Re: Ganoderma on a Peach Tree Stump [Re: Mrcloudy]
    #22112651 - 08/19/15 03:48 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Sounds good.  There's a second one beginning to pin next to it.  So if an animal or bug goes after it, there's at least a backup.

Is peach wood technically hardwood either?  I'm growing G. curtisii and a few G. resinaceums are growing naturally nearby also.  This one seems to have very different growing characteristics than those.


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Re: Ganoderma on a Peach Tree Stump [Re: kactus.brand.g]
    #22112668 - 08/19/15 03:52 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

There is tsugae in Kentucky, it can be found on hemlock, usually not on other conifers. On pine you get Ganoderma meredithae which looks exactly like G.curtisii.


For our purposes the peach can be considered a hardwood :thumbup:


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Re: Ganoderma on a Peach Tree Stump [Re: Mrcloudy]
    #22114955 - 08/20/15 12:16 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Mrcloudy said:
There is tsugae in Kentucky, it can be found on hemlock, usually not on other conifers. On pine you get Ganoderma meredithae which looks exactly like G.curtisii.


For our purposes the peach can be considered a hardwood :thumbup:




WOW,this is so complicated with mushrooms so similar:lol:


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Re: Ganoderma on a Peach Tree Stump [Re: Mrcloudy]
    #22130013 - 08/23/15 08:55 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I went to check on it this morning.  Some animal took a bite out of it and ripped it out of the stump.  It also ripped out 3 of the G.curtisii growing nearby but without bite.  No idea what animal.  Probably something with hands or claws. 

Here are the cross sections.  Is it still too soon to tell?

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There's still another one begging to pin.  I'm going to put chicken wire around it and the others.  These animals are terrors!


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Re: Ganoderma on a Peach Tree Stump [Re: Jumpingfish]
    #22130146 - 08/23/15 09:37 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Nope, it is Ganoderma sessile (North American G.resinaceum complex)

Stipitate specimens like this are uncommon.


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Re: Ganoderma on a Peach Tree Stump [Re: Mrcloudy]
    #22130181 - 08/23/15 09:48 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Cool.  Thanks!  That's interesting how in the same yard there are 2 different species of naturally occurring ganodermas in the resinaceum complex.  Let me know if you want a sample as with all my finds.  I'm going to try to guard this new pin to get it to grow all the way.

Here it is in timelapse-ish and sudden collapse at the end:

http://gfycat.com/EnlightenedInferiorCat


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Re: Ganoderma on a Peach Tree Stump [Re: Jumpingfish]
    #22181944 - 09/03/15 07:44 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Here's resin coming from one growing from the same stump.  Some kind of bug I think is sucking the resin from it.  Hopefully it'll still grow more:



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Re: Ganoderma on a Peach Tree Stump [Re: Jumpingfish]
    #22182024 - 09/03/15 08:20 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Here's resin coming from one growing from the same stump.  Some kind of bug I think is sucking the resin from it.  Hopefully it'll still grow more:








Looks like it still has life in it, they can take a beating and keep growing, I completely mutilated one of my grows going all mad scientist and pinning different parts together to make a frankenconk.














I tried doing the same thing with pieces from 2 different strains and it doesn't work, apparently two strains even if they are the same species are incompatible.


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Re: Ganoderma on a Peach Tree Stump [Re: Mrcloudy]
    #22182333 - 09/03/15 10:09 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

That's an interesting finding, Cloudy.  So ganoderma are similar to humans just to the extent of organ and limb donation vs reattachment.  They might need a regimen of medication to not reject parts from other strains. 

Impressive sculpting btw!


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Re: Ganoderma on a Peach Tree Stump [Re: Jumpingfish]
    #22182669 - 09/03/15 11:42 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

An interesting idea and probably makes sense, Mushrooms might have an immune system of sorts.

Here is what happened when I tried to cross strains.

When I first stuck them together...



The host starts to grow.


A cross section, the top refused to bond and the host grew up and out of the crack between the two, however, very interestingly the pore surfaces did merge. I should note that the donor conk stopped growing out, it remained the same size except for a little thickness added to the pores.



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Re: Ganoderma on a Peach Tree Stump [Re: Mrcloudy]
    #22183307 - 09/03/15 02:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

That's a very cool experiment nonetheless.  Have you tried it with completely different species of Ganoderma as well?


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Re: Ganoderma on a Peach Tree Stump [Re: Jumpingfish]
    #22183443 - 09/03/15 02:54 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I did i tried it with North American G. applanatum and G.sessile with poor results, the G.sessile rotted away did not even try to merge.


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Re: Ganoderma on a Peach Tree Stump [Re: Mrcloudy]
    #22183446 - 09/03/15 02:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)



Here is the picture. This was when it was fresh, I don't think I took a picture of the disaster it turned into.


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