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Crivitz High School to Subject Some Students to Random Drug Testing [WI]
    #22110160 - 08/19/15 08:17 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Crivitz High School to Subject Some Students to Random Drug Testing
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CRIVITZ, Wis. (WFRV)

Crivitz High School is now joining others in the area, like Kimberly and De Pere, who will be drug testing some students at random throughout the school year.

Administrators say the goal is not to punish students, but rather to protect them.

"The last couple years, I've noticed here in the high school we've started to get a growing drug problem, I think we've always kind of had a drug problem here in Marinette County," says Crivitz High School Athletic Director, Jeff Dorschner.

That's why starting this fall, Crivitz High School will begin randomly drug testing some of its students.

"More or less, identifying the problem, getting the parents involved, getting our counselors involved and providing a way for students to get back on the right track," explains Dorschner.

Because of regulations, the school will only test students involved in extracurricular activities, or students who have passes to park on school property.

"Participating in extracurriculars, um in public high schools is a privilege and it's not a right, as well as parking on our school parking lot," says Dorschner.

Bay Area Medical Center in Marinette, is funding the program, and every two weeks a computer system there will select five student identification numbers  to ID which students will be tested.

If a student refuses or tests positive, they will be given an athletic or club code violation, will have to sit out on activities, go to school counseling, and their parents will be involved.

"We do have a good group of kids here and you know I hope that none of them are users, um and if they have in the past that they are affected by it and deterred from doing that and making those choices," says Head Football Coach, Matt Bernier.

Players say that's exactly what they think will happen with this new policy in place, if anyone on the team is using.

"I don't think anyone is using, but if they are, I think it will probably stop them if they're really serious about playing," says the quarterback of the football team, and Senior, Sebastian Atwood.

"I personally don't think there is a problem with drugs but, in a case that someone is doing that, then they'd be able to find help and get off any drugs that they are currently on," says Senior football player, Billy Retza.

"If we can just save one or two kids from going down that path, this program is worth it for everybody," says Dorschner.

While there hasn't been much controversy surrounding the new policy at the high school, the American Academy of Pediatrics did release a statement in March, saying they oppose in-school drug testing, due to a lack of effectiveness.

However, they say they do support substance abuse services in schools.


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Re: Crivitz High School to Subject Some Students to Random Drug Testing [WI] [Re: Ythan] * 1
    #22110226 - 08/19/15 08:49 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

They need to start drug testing in kindergarten so kids know from a young age that they don't own their body, the government does.


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Re: Crivitz High School to Subject Some Students to Random Drug Testing [WI] [Re: grower182]
    #22110295 - 08/19/15 09:12 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I went to one of the schools mentioned in the article. Drug testing 13 year old kids....it's insane.


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Re: Crivitz High School to Subject Some Students to Random Drug Testing [WI] [Re: shr] * 2
    #22112632 - 08/19/15 03:45 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:facepalm3:

How about we just educate the youth and try and make a better world to raise them in and less will feel the need to use drugs...


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Re: Crivitz High School to Subject Some Students to Random Drug Testing [WI] [Re: grower182]
    #22112665 - 08/19/15 03:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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grower182 said:
They need to start drug testing in kindergarten so kids know from a young age that they don't own their body, the government does.





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Re: Crivitz High School to Subject Some Students to Random Drug Testing [WI] [Re: SeaShrooms] * 2
    #22113380 - 08/19/15 06:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I think this would be more of a deterrent to participating in extracurricular activities than a deterrent to doing drugs.


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Re: Crivitz High School to Subject Some Students to Random Drug Testing [WI] [Re: searching] * 1
    #22113880 - 08/19/15 08:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Public schools are becoming like prisons. Personally I have a kid that prob wont' go back to public ed institution because the staff and admin make up rules whenever they want. Testing football players is nothing new...but to get a parking pass?? How about they test teachers like this for drugs and alcohol too to even it out....most wouldn't pass a 8a.m. breathalyzer...

I've heard of them doing this to kids who are in the debate club or chess club. Fuck schools....get your kids out of that bullshit ASAP and teach them what they need to know....not how to fear the man or live in fear.

*edit* pisses me off even more they say you do this or else...trampling on kids rights before they are even legal adults....worse than dirty cops that shit on the constitution.


Edited by BlueIndian (08/19/15 08:08 PM)


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Re: Crivitz High School to Subject Some Students to Random Drug Testing [WI] [Re: BlueIndian]
    #22115379 - 08/20/15 05:09 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

^great comment. Couldnt have said it better


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Re: Crivitz High School to Subject Some Students to Random Drug Testing [WI] [Re: BlueIndian]
    #22115486 - 08/20/15 06:09 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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BlueIndian said:
Public schools are becoming like prisons. Personally I have a kid that prob wont' go back to public ed institution because the staff and admin make up rules whenever they want. Testing football players is nothing new...but to get a parking pass?? How about they test teachers like this for drugs and alcohol too to even it out....most wouldn't pass a 8a.m. breathalyzer...

I've heard of them doing this to kids who are in the debate club or chess club. Fuck schools....get your kids out of that bullshit ASAP and teach them what they need to know....not how to fear the man or live in fear.

*edit* pisses me off even more they say you do this or else...trampling on kids rights before they are even legal adults....worse than dirty cops that shit on the constitution.




I don't know how old you are or what schools you went to but they are prisons. They have had prison style rules for over 20 years. I'm pretty sure I remember hearing about getting detention or something for being involved in a fight that you didn't initiate and acting in self defense. What the hell is that about?

Marijuana laws and attitudes are changing quickly. How about the schools be compassionate about a students drug use and try to help them, not punish. I think everyone on this forum can reference a million articles or studies about how punishment doesn't stop or solve drug use.


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Re: Crivitz High School to Subject Some Students to Random Drug Testing [WI] [Re: AEL1911]
    #22115627 - 08/20/15 07:25 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Crivitz High School to Subject Some Students to Random Drug Testing [WI] [Re: AEL1911]
    #22116705 - 08/20/15 01:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Where I live the largest highscool in town was actually designed by a prison architect :lol:


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Re: Crivitz High School to Subject Some Students to Random Drug Testing [WI] [Re: musiclover420]
    #22116790 - 08/20/15 01:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

My old high school in Kansas has the same floor plan as an ohio prison.


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Re: Crivitz High School to Subject Some Students to Random Drug Testing [WI] [Re: Ythan]
    #22116847 - 08/20/15 01:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Ythan said:
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Because of regulations, the school will only test students involved in extracurricular activities, or students who have passes to park on school property.

"Participating in extracurriculars, um in public high schools is a privilege and it's not a right, as well as parking on our school parking lot," says Dorschner.
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If a student refuses or tests positive, they will be given an athletic or club code violation, will have to sit out on activities, go to school counseling, and their parents will be involved.
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Make the kids hate the system before they even finish school, and learn that in order to do drugs they either need to stop bothering with school due to lack of parking, or start spending more time hanging out doing drugs than participating in extracurricular activities.
:brilliant:

Think that the part about this story that makes me laugh the most is that in high school, pretty much everyone who could drive went out at lunch and breaks to get high in their car; and almost everyone on the sports teams were stoners.

Meanwhile, personally never did any drugs in high school, never drove, and didn't participate in extracurricular activities because I was a judgemental asshole who didn't trust the druggies. :lol:
Despite never trying cannabis or anything until after high school, even if I had participated in extra curricular activities, I would have refused to piss in a cup to keep doing them, and be sent to counseling for being resistant to authority.  Score.

Wonder how many lives this program is going to leave fucked up. :sad:


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Re: Crivitz High School to Subject Some Students to Random Drug Testing [WI] [Re: musiclover420]
    #22116891 - 08/20/15 02:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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musiclover420 said:
Where I live the largest highscool in town was actually designed by a prison architect :lol:




Same. And was "originally designed as a prison"....now, is this just a myth about every HS? Pretty sure this is true in this case


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Re: Crivitz High School to Subject Some Students to Random Drug Testing [WI] [Re: Fractal420]
    #22117573 - 08/20/15 04:48 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

This honestly doesn't sound bad at all but I go to a private school so much harsher for ours. But they'll test anyone they want to, and make them pay $50 for it even if they pass. Fail two tests and you're outta there for good.


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Re: Crivitz High School to Subject Some Students to Random Drug Testing [WI] [Re: musiclover420]
    #22121563 - 08/21/15 09:52 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Where I live the largest highscool in town was actually designed by a prison architect :lol:



hahaha careful man a lot of people in this town know about that which means anyone on here can easily tell where you live, not that it matters. I'm happy you get to enjoy this wonderful place as much as me though; best town in the PNW by far


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Re: Crivitz High School to Subject Some Students to Random Drug Testing [WI] [Re: psilocyclops]
    #22122315 - 08/21/15 12:53 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I am not too worried, especially after meeting someone from here locally, that was pretty cool.

I had already seen him before too at a concert which was pretty hilarious.

Thanks for the warning though :lol: and it really is a great town.


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Re: Crivitz High School to Subject Some Students to Random Drug Testing [WI] [Re: musiclover420]
    #22122814 - 08/21/15 02:37 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Bay Area Medical Center in Marinette, is funding the program



Well that seems fishy.
Have you ever known Medical Centers to just give away
and every two weeks a computer system there will select five student identification numbers  to ID which students will be tested.

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If a student refuses or tests positive, they will be given an athletic or club code violation, will have to sit out on activities, go to school counseling, and their parents will be involved.



Way to teach the 5th amendment doesn't matter!
Given that kids can't sign contracts their parents should be involved from the get go.


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Re: Crivitz High School to Subject Some Students to Random Drug Testing [WI] [Re: StygianKnight]
    #22130153 - 08/23/15 09:40 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Last time I was in Crivitz I stayed in a trailer park for a weekend. Crashed a moped into said trailer while wasted, lost the gas cap to the boat while in the middle of the lake, flushed a condom down the toilet (drunk again) which plugged up the septic tank, caught a tree on fire while lighting off fireworks and got the nastiest most wicked swimmers itch. Good times! :offthehook: Needless to say, there are WAY cooler places than Crivitz. Whats the point of testing kids that live out in the country, pretty sure the cities got the drugs on lock down last time I checked


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Re: Crivitz High School to Subject Some Students to Random Drug Testing [WI] [Re: tealeaf]
    #22131079 - 08/23/15 02:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Ya people in the country have a shit ton of drugs, mostly meth and pain pills.


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