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CrimsonSpectre
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LiquidVisions said: I felt like I was back to where I was supposed to be just sooner than I should of because all the beings in this dimension recognized me yet were surprised that I was there.
I've experienced this as well. On one occasion, however, they were fully expecting my arrival. They were sitting in a circle around me, and were amused by my confusion/disorientation. But not laughing AT me.
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Hanz
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On the few occasions that I've had these entity experiences, I felt as if I joined a party to which I was specifically invited. Then, when I arrived they were glad I did, and welcomed me. No confusion or surprise. It just doesn't always happen. Sometimes there is only head space, visuals, and dissociation. Perhaps I'm not taking enough, but I'm a little worried after that time when I took too much...
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LiquidVisions
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Re: Advice needed regarding salvia [Re: Hanz]
#22137272 - 08/24/15 07:52 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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If you aren't afraid you did too much.. you didn't do enough. - Terrance Mckenna
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Step 2: Look at this after following step one
Step 3: Enjoy the mini trip
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Coincidentiaoppositorum
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Re: Advice needed regarding salvia [Re: Hanz]
#22139029 - 08/25/15 06:57 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Coincidentiaoppositorum said: After the extracts were preformed, I had a friend tell me he placed some of the pure salvinorin-A under his tongue, probably about 500ugs, and he reported an intense but slightly extended salvinorin-a experience, he told me it came on slower than smoking, and lasted longer, but reached the same intensity...
I generally try not to publish 2nd hand anecdotes, but it appears that quidding the extract infused leaf may produce the experience that quidders are seeking...has anybody bought salvia extract and rather than smoke the salvinorin-a infused plant material, simply placed it under their tongue?
-E. Borodin
No, I haven't done that yet. I would be wary of doing it with pure salvinorin-A though. The measuring error of my scale is the difference between no effect and total overkill. I'm afraid you will need some pretty expensive equipment to do that responsibly, .. and enjoy it.
https://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/hardware/hardware_info1.shtml
https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/equipment/scale2.html
Follow these directions exactly, and you will have an accurate microgram-scale.
-E. Borodin
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Coincidentiaoppositorum
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Hanz said: On the few occasions that I've had these entity experiences, I felt as if I joined a party to which I was specifically invited. Then, when I arrived they were glad I did, and welcomed me. No confusion or surprise. It just doesn't always happen. Sometimes there is only head space, visuals, and dissociation. Perhaps I'm not taking enough, but I'm a little worried after that time when I took too much...
The beings I encounter on salvia are always these whacky elfen cartoon like things, as described in this previous post:
I encounter entities more often on salvinorin-A but they are often whacky, Looney-tunes cartoon like elf beings...
Here's an experience report from salvinorin-A:
I had just obtained the salvinorin-a and went into a tunnel where I often smoke marijuana, it's an isolated place, no worries about the public or police. I loaded a fairly large bowl of the salvinorin-a infused leaf into my marijuana pipe and cashed it in a single hit... The bricks on the wall began to form a pyramid like structure in my visual field, a rush of cold pins and needles moved over my skin as I slowly lost contact with my body and the outside world, the pyramid structure became more defined, it was an Aztec pyramid, with vines and jungle surrounding it. I looked around I saw I was surrounded by small creatures, they were shaped like upside down horse-shoes or like a lower-case letter "n", they had feet at each point of the "n" shape of their body, large black eyes, and funny little arm like appendages that were warped around a stick which was resting across their "shoulders" with a bucket full of water on either end of the stick. All these little beings were carrying these pales of water up the pyramid steps. The communicated in this squeaky high-pitch ossiclation of frequencies which were packed with telepathic significance, I followed them to the top of the pyramid, where a river was running down the back, they were all dumping their buckets f water into this river, which I jumped into, I felt wet, and blind, and as if I were falling...then I came back to baseline reality.
Another time I smoked in my friends garage, after I exhaled I saw a multicolored river pouring over the white van that was parked next to me, this river type thing began at the top of the shelf and at its mouth sat several of these whacky, goofy, constantly moving and jumping and bouncing and making noise elf type creatures, all their bodies had odd shapes, one was shaped similar to a pipe wrench, the other was several odd angles all intersecting, it's hard to describe them, but I realized they were throwing this color changing rainbow like stuff into the "river" that was pouring down the shelf over the vans windshield and roof like wind, and out the garage door, these creatures were again squeaky and load. They having their own insane party of coloring this river... Again, very very bizzare, but not life changing or very meaningful
the beings I encounter on DMT are all together different...
-E. Borodin
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Hanz
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LiquidVisions said: If you aren't afraid you did too much.. you didn't do enough. - Terrance Mckenna
Yes, this sounds very cool, and may apply to shrooms, but IME it does not apply to salvia. With salvia, too-much-too-much results in black-out, amnesia, and a nasty come down. Would rather avoid those from now on.
Also, isn't the guy called "Terence", and not "Terrance"?
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Hanz
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Coincidentiaoppositorum said:
https://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/hardware/hardware_info1.shtml
https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/equipment/scale2.html
Follow these directions exactly, and you will have an accurate microgram-scale.
-E. Borodin
Wow, those are some great tools. So you have really built them, and they do the job?
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Coincidentiaoppositorum
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Re: Advice needed regarding salvia [Re: Hanz]
#22149970 - 08/27/15 05:59 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Coincidentiaoppositorum said:
https://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/hardware/hardware_info1.shtml
https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/equipment/scale2.html
Follow these directions exactly, and you will have an accurate microgram-scale.
-E. Borodin
Wow, those are some great tools. So you have really built them, and they do the job?
I helped build it, and yeah it worked great, it's no where near as complicated as it sounds, but I still had some of my more technical friends help out, all in all fairly simple, fairly easy to obtain parts....(we built the first one not the 2nd...)
-E. Borodin
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Coincidentiaoppositorum
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His ingenious ploy was to combine a cheese board and an old galvanometer, a device that measures current. The result was an electrorobalance that can determine weights from about 10 micrograms all the way up to 500,000 micrograms ( 0.5 gram).
The precision of the measurements is quite impressive. I personally confirmed that his design can measure to 1 percent masses exceeding one milligram. Furthermore, it can distinguish between masses in the 100-microgram range that differ by as little as two micrograms. And calculations suggest that the instrument can measure single masses as slight as 10 micrograms (I didn't have a weight this small to test).-erowid
Follow the directions exactly, the device should function as claimed above...
--E. Borodin
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voodoochild1000
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buddingshroomer said: So, just a bit of background: I've done most of the "typical" psychedelics and a few of the more bizarre one and so far I have enjoyed them all. One I have never tried is Salvia divinorum.
The reason I have never tried it is because there is such a huge negative taboo around it. Every report I read or video I watch seems to be someones horror story on salvia... Which begs the question: Why would anyone still do it? If it produces such horrible and frightening experiences why does it even exist anymore? I would expect it to just loose popularity and eventually just not be available due to no demand... But it is still available, and people still do it...Why?
I have always been intrigued by its uniqueness, but never had the courage to try it. SO, what are your experiences/opinions with it? Have you personally had a good time with it? If so, how?
And lastly, would you recommend it? Are you glad you tried it?
Sorry for all the questions, I'm just really trying to put this "myth" to rest. If everyone agrees its awful and suggests not to try it ill be able to just accept its a bad drug and not try it, but it's very existence confuses me. There must be something that is keeping it around, right?
.....here's what happended to me yesterday... http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22149486/fpart/1/vc/1
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voodoochild1000
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Re: Advice needed regarding salvia [Re: MajickMuffin]
#22150361 - 08/27/15 08:46 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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MajickMuffin said: People can have positive and negative experiences on any drug. People can freak out on weed.
Just because you read people having negative experiences on Salvia, dont assume its a negative substance
Thanks for the response I get where you are coming from completely, but you know what i mean right? There is a LOT of reports saying salvia is negative and very few reports of positive experiences. That has to mean something. It could just be that it is very strong and used irresponsibly by people who haven't done their homework 
I definately get where your coming from man and I understand why you asked what you did. But most people simply just dont understand what the drug they take will do to them before they take it, they dont understand what to expect or how to deal with such things when it happens.
Being experienced with psychedelics and doing your research, would certainly greatly improve your chance to have a positive experience.
Ive never experienced Salvia, yet. Or DMT for that matter. But id be able to handle it thats for sure.
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........so...u haven't tried it?...but your SHURE u can handle it...
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voodoochild1000
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Re: Advice needed regarding salvia [Re: MajickMuffin]
#22150445 - 08/27/15 09:07 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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MajickMuffin said: But id be able to handle it thats for sure.
Possibly. One friend though approached it pretty cocky. "I've done tons of drugs, I can handle anything." With Salvia, he had the most frightening experience of his life. He was reduced to the fetal position and a constant stream of tears AFTER he "came back."
Not saying you'd have a similar experience. But it's all about mindset when starting the venture, as you know.
Oh fuck no dude I have great respect for psychedelics and their power.
Im not like, ive done a shit ton of drugs, give me that shiat FFFFFFFFFFF.
It would take me some meditation and alot of thinking and humbling before Id sit down to do it.
....sorry...should have read more....namaste!
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Ive taken it about 5 times though its been a few years.It can be scary/strange/overwhelming experience but it is also interesting and doesnt last very long at all. There are people who like it. If youre gonna do it make sure you are in a safe place by yourself maybe with a responsible trustworthy sitter.It is pretty strange how it is legal though(not really complaining as I think all drugs should be legal) but it is definitely stronger than any psychedelic or even ketamine.
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