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I've heard that if you add 9 to 124, you get 133. Now, this could just be a rumor but the implications of such a discovery, if verified, could be immense.
Oddly enough, one of the connections between the ancient Syrians, Jesus and George W. Bush (ala 9/11) is they all speculated that adding 1 to 132 could render 133....
This is "above my pay grade", as they say, and I work for the feds so I'll leave it for you to decide.
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Great minds.
I used to binge watch documentaries, there was a pretty good one BBC put out on the subject called The Story of Maths. Not the only one I've watched on the subject, but it did reveal some pretty amazing stuff (been a long time so I'd be hard pressed to cite examples, the only one I can remember is based on music and how people find music to be more beautiful the more mathematically harmonious it is).
Have always found math truly fascinating though. More geared towards it's emergence and how it came to be. As a kid I was always wondering how it was invented. Found out later, it never was invented, it's just a product of the Universe. Math is as close to a universal truth we will ever see.
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I can, look. I deny that. I deny that objects exist in the first place. There is no such thing as an object for there to be. Just think of the implications of skepticism for a bit, dude. It's cute. Nothing can be proven with absolute certainty. All statements are suspect. There's no infallible evidence to prove one's own existence. You can't even be sure that you exist. That's the lesson of the skeptics.
Honestly, this is high school stuff.
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Re: What's the signifigance of the number 133? [Re: Shroomslip]
#22109705 - 08/19/15 04:44 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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That's what people say "close to a universal truth..", but ask a longtime practitioner of buddhism and you'l get a different answer.
There is nothing but universal truth and it really couldn't be another way. We are in fact, in and am the universe. Just kinda how it works.
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Re: What's the signifigance of the number 133? [Re: healing]
#22109711 - 08/19/15 04:50 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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He's still right, you can argue semantics all you want. You don't even need a language to understand the concept. You have one object, I hand you another, you now have double the objects. It matters none what you label "one", "double" or even if you label them at all.
Want to say that they don't exist? Then neither do you. Yet we're all in this "non-existence" and in this "non-existence" if you have one object and I hand you another, you have 2. Prove it? If you drop all the objects in your hands, how many fall? Everything is on a relative and comparative basis, whether we exist or not.
We can run around in circles all night, it'd be easier if you just admitted you stated a fallacy as fact though. I'm certainly not going to go back and fourth with you all night.
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Re: What's the signifigance of the number 133? [Re: DirdyD]
#22109718 - 08/19/15 04:54 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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No, you don't get it.
How do I know that what I see with my eyes is real? How could I prove to myself that what I see is reality? [insert your answer] How do I know that [insert your answer] is real? And so on.
It's a pretty simple thought experiment. You're supposed to learn this stuff along with other basic epistemology shit as part of your compulsory education.
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Re: What's the signifigance of the number 133? [Re: Shroomslip]
#22109719 - 08/19/15 04:54 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Shroomslip said: He's still right, you can argue semantics all you want. You don't even need a language to understand the concept. You have one object, I hand you another, you now have double the objects. It matters none what you label "one", "double" or even if you label them at all.
Want to say that they don't exist? Then neither do you. Yet we're all in this "non-existence" and in this "non-existence" if you have one object and I hand you another, you have 2. Prove it? If you drop all the objects in your hands, how many fall? Everything is on a relative and comparative basis, whether we exist or not.
We can run around in circles all night, it'd be easier if you just admitted you stated a fallacy as fact though. I'm certainly not going to go back and fourth with you all night.
How do you know that the object that you think you are holding exists?
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Re: What's the signifigance of the number 133? [Re: healing]
#22109720 - 08/19/15 04:55 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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How do you know that you exist?
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Re: What's the signifigance of the number 133? [Re: sun_spots]
#22109724 - 08/19/15 04:57 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't.
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#22109728 - 08/19/15 05:00 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah, me neither.
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Re: What's the signifigance of the number 133? [Re: healing]
#22109731 - 08/19/15 05:03 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I wasn't debating anything you said, just making a passing observation. Put your dick back in your pants, mate. Everything is cool.
I went through 4 years of college and 2-3 years traditional monastic training. Grasping what you're saying is child's play.
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Re: What's the signifigance of the number 133? [Re: DirdyD]
#22109734 - 08/19/15 05:04 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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DirdyD said: I wasn't debating anything you said, just making a passing observation. Put your dick back in your pants, mate. Everything is cool.
I went through 4 years of college and 2-3 years traditional monastic training. Grasping what you're saying is child's play.
I know! That part wasn't directed at you. Sorry. It's super annoying that they don't know this already.
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Re: What's the signifigance of the number 133? [Re: healing]
#22109738 - 08/19/15 05:07 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I do get it. I get that you're trying to come across as highly enlightened and as if you have some giant knowledge bomb to drop on everyone, but you don't. Your arguments hold no weight. Your philosophical questioning is easily debunked. As I said, I'm not going to go round and round with you all night. This shit will literally go on forever.
The objects are as real as you. What is "real" is just arguing semantics.
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Re: What's the signifigance of the number 133? [Re: Shroomslip]
#22109742 - 08/19/15 05:11 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's 7:10a here.
But yeah, this sort of argument is one hell of a rabbit hole. Best to step away and forget about it asap.
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Re: What's the signifigance of the number 133? [Re: healing]
#22109745 - 08/19/15 05:13 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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healing said: I can, look. I deny that. I deny that objects exist in the first place. There is no such thing as an object for there to be. Just think of the implications of skepticism for a bit, dude. It's cute. Nothing can be proven with absolute certainty. All statements are suspect. There's no infallible evidence to prove one's own existence. You can't even be sure that you exist. That's the lesson of the skeptics.
Honestly, this is high school stuff.
Taking skepticism to such absurd extremes is high school stuff, regardless if you feel the objects exist or not, one object next to another is two objects, who cares if they "exist" in the philosophical sense, that has nothing to do with their quantity.
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Re: What's the signifigance of the number 133? [Re: Shroomslip]
#22109748 - 08/19/15 05:14 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm not at all. I don't even believe in enlightenment. You're just not following through with the thought experiment, which shouldn't be new to you.
You should already know that nothing can be proven with any certainty and that philosophy had to accept this and move on. I don't know why you're getting bogged down here.
What we were really talking about was numbers as social constructs. Because the objects that you use are at their basis conceptual because you either see them with your mind or perceive them through your thoughts or communicate them with your words.
You cannot conceive of it without conceptualizing it and so it is a part of the human experience without humans there would be no such thoughts to order whatever you think the universe is when we're not around and we can't know that. We can't even prove our own existence to ourselves, or do you need a big dose of benadryl?
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healing said: I can, look. I deny that. I deny that objects exist in the first place. There is no such thing as an object for there to be. Just think of the implications of skepticism for a bit, dude. It's cute. Nothing can be proven with absolute certainty. All statements are suspect. There's no infallible evidence to prove one's own existence. You can't even be sure that you exist. That's the lesson of the skeptics.
Honestly, this is high school stuff.
Taking skepticism to such absurd extremes is high school stuff, regardless if you feel the objects exist or not, one object next to another is two objects, who cares if they "exist" in the philosophical sense, that has nothing to do with their quantity.
-E. Borodin
I know that. That's entirely beside the point.
We're talking about the social construct of value.
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Re: What's the signifigance of the number 133? [Re: healing]
#22109753 - 08/19/15 05:16 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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healing said: No, you don't get it.
How do I know that what I see with my eyes is real? How could I prove to myself that what I see is reality? [insert your answer] How do I know that [insert your answer] is real? And so on.
It's a pretty simple thought experiment. You're supposed to learn this stuff along with other basic epistemology shit as part of your compulsory education.
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healing said: I can, look. I deny that. I deny that objects exist in the first place. There is no such thing as an object for there to be. Just think of the implications of skepticism for a bit, dude. It's cute. Nothing can be proven with absolute certainty. All statements are suspect. There's no infallible evidence to prove one's own existence. You can't even be sure that you exist. That's the lesson of the skeptics.
Honestly, this is high school stuff.
Taking skepticism to such absurd extremes is high school stuff, regardless if you feel the objects exist or not, one object next to another is two objects, who cares if they "exist" in the philosophical sense, that has nothing to do with their quantity.
-E. Borodin
I know that. That's entirely beside the point.
We're talking about the social construct of value.
No, we are talking about math, and how skeptical argument can't apply to it in any reasonable sense.
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I don't think they're talking about what you're talking about.
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healing said: No, you don't get it.
How do I know that what I see with my eyes is real? How could I prove to myself that what I see is reality? [insert your answer] How do I know that [insert your answer] is real? And so on.
It's a pretty simple thought experiment. You're supposed to learn this stuff along with other basic epistemology shit as part of your compulsory education.
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healing said:
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Coincidentiaoppositorum said:
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healing said: I can, look. I deny that. I deny that objects exist in the first place. There is no such thing as an object for there to be. Just think of the implications of skepticism for a bit, dude. It's cute. Nothing can be proven with absolute certainty. All statements are suspect. There's no infallible evidence to prove one's own existence. You can't even be sure that you exist. That's the lesson of the skeptics.
Honestly, this is high school stuff.
Taking skepticism to such absurd extremes is high school stuff, regardless if you feel the objects exist or not, one object next to another is two objects, who cares if they "exist" in the philosophical sense, that has nothing to do with their quantity.
-E. Borodin
I know that. That's entirely beside the point.
We're talking about the social construct of value.
No, we are talking about math, and how skeptical argument can't apply to it in any reasonable sense.
-E. Borodin
Reasonable, yes. Reasonable is an opinion, one with which i agree.
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