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Joem204
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One 5 berry bag didnt make it so how do I continue my Bulk Method?
#22108693 - 08/18/15 09:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I love this site BTW! I've been reading the Teks, posts, and generous info for several years till I finally took the plunge but now I'm sort of stuck. I had two 3lb inoculated grain spawn bags and all the "Bulk Method" equipment needed (Tub with batting stuffed holes, 10 lbs. of pre-pasteurized mushroom compost, and all the accessories needed). All great except now only one of the 2 3lb bags has reached 100% mycelial colonization. The 2nd bag we've been waiting on for over 2 weeks and best I can tell it’s not getting any better it actually looks less colonized each day! Is that possible? I figure contamination and I feel lucky to have one that is rock hard and totally white! My question is, can I still use the same Big Tub that came with the bulk substrate kit with only one colonized spawn bag or would it be too big now? Just in case I went out and bought another clear tub approx. ½ the size of the one that came with the ‘Bulk Method Kit’. How much of the 10 lbs. of pasteurized compost should I use with it now? How much vermiculite on top? Thanks in advance for any advice you guys may have! This site seems to be unique in the fact that Everyone seems so willing to help us newbies get off on the right foot. Heck, your collective knowledge & experience is openly and eagerly shared and that is so cool! Thanks again and God Bless! IndyHorseLover
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Buck513
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Re: One 5 berry bag didnt make it so how do I continue my Bulk Method? [Re: Joem204]
#22108803 - 08/18/15 09:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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You've been lurking here for several years and THAT is what you have to show for it? Buying a kit and horrible terminology? 
Your sub depth should be 2-3 inches or so. Are you saying your just going to case with verm? Sure you can, but monos don't really need to be cased. If you do decide to case, a thick casing isn't necessary. A 1/4in casing is fine, you can just eyeball it.
Make sure you make your substrate a FLAT AND EVEN surface. Don't halfass that part, it helps develop a nice pinset.
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Mdahmer
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Re: One 5 berry bag didnt make it so how do I continue my Bulk Method? [Re: Buck513]
#22108891 - 08/18/15 09:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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what my friend buck is trying to say is...dont buy kits, things usually work out better when you make them yourself and its not to hard and you save money. plus people will be able to help you better with your questions. most of the recipes are measured by volume (6qt grains spawn to 12 qt bulk sub ect.)
but since you know the weight of both of your ingredients you can still figure it easily. you want a ratio of 1:2 to 1:4 you have 3 lb grain spawn and 10 lb bulk sub so thats like 1:3 plus some which is an acceptable ratio. now you want to see if that will give you at least a 2 inch substrate depth in your tub.
the easiest way to measure this is by pouring qt jars of water into your tub. say you have 6qt spawn 12 qt sub so you dump 18 qts in and see where the line is. i dont know what size your tub is so i would say you might wanna measure like that just to make sure. i looked at a kit the other day in someones post and the site claimed 3 lb was about 4qt i do belive so maybe you can guess your 10lb sub is about 12 qt (this doesnt have to be exact)
if its at least 2 inches you should be good. you dont need to case and i dont like the idea of using just verm to case but people apparently do it so try if you want but you know.
you may have read a bunch of bad info if it was old and there is some sketchy stuff on the front page of this website. check out frankhorrigan monotub teks, stuff from pastywhyte like his mini monos, transcendinglife, just look around and click on peoples links in their sigs and you should find your way to the good stuff
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Inocuole
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Re: One 5 berry bag didnt make it so how do I continue my Bulk Method? [Re: Mdahmer]
#22109025 - 08/18/15 10:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Joem204
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Re: One 5 berry bag didnt make it so how do I continue my Bulk Method? [Re: Mdahmer]
#22162445 - 08/29/15 08:56 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I tried to reach out for help here on Shroomery for the first time a few days ago. I mentioned how much I loved the site and how the members genuinely seemed to care about the success of others in there mycology quest. But on my very first post the very 1st response was so awful so insulting; my choice of product was slammed my vocabulary (which I copied from another mycology site because I know that I don’t know all the terms yet) was mocked and my intelligence insulted and I guess I misjudged this site. Now I am in real trouble with my grow but am afraid to come here for help now. This sucks. Does anyone know what this is or how to deal with it? I was one step away from fruiting the grow!

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Inocuole
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Re: One 5 berry bag didnt make it so how do I continue my Bulk Method? [Re: Inocuole]
#22162471 - 08/29/15 09:07 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Buck is an asshole. 
You can't be afraid of what happens when you make a mistake and ask for help, you take the advice and you get over it, like everybody else. You don't have to be offended because your terminology was bad and you made a bad choice. That happens. It's what you do with that information that matters.
That and I don't believe anyone has a "right" to not be offended, just an ability to choose not to be.
That said, he has a point.
I posted a bunch of links 10 days ago and 10 days is plenty of time to read and comprehend them. So if you haven't done that, and you're still asking what to do, that tells a lot about your learning habits. You could've been asking questions in this thread 10 days ago regarding both of the responses you got besides the first one.
That's bacteria. A lot of bacteria. The spiky mycelium isn't always a bad thing but when it's accompanied by that yellowness, before it's even done colonizing, it might not finish. I don't know if you'll get to fruiting so I would recommend reading back over the links and making a decision on what you want to do next. Feel free to keep an eye on that, since it could still fruit, but you'd be better off looking into PF Tek or monotubs for the time being.
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Inocuole said: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19140341 http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19208976 http://www.shroomery.org/forums/postlist.php/Board/235 http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20541405
Also, if you're 53, and your address starts with a 10, you should be more careful about what information you put on the internet. This isn't worth getting in trouble over.
Edited by Inocuole (08/29/15 09:19 PM)
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Juiceh
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Re: One 5 berry bag didnt make it so how do I continue my Bulk Method? [Re: Joem204]
#22162524 - 08/29/15 09:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Joem204 said: Does anyone know what this is or how to deal with it? I was one step away from fruiting the grow!
What are you referring to in the pic? The yellowing? Or the aerial mycelium? How does it smell?
Whats the black cable that is going into the substrate? Is the clear tube coming from an airpump? If so, don't have it pointing right at the substrate, if you can curve the tube upwards it won't dry out the sub as much.
Kits are generally frowned upon here, if you've been reading the forums for a while you would have known that.
Good luck. Kits can work. I've seen kits produce full canopies in person. But what I see online, not so much.
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Joem204
IndyHorseLover


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Re: One 5 berry bag didnt make it so how do I continue my Bulk Method? [Re: Juiceh]
#22768754 - 01/12/16 04:26 AM (8 years, 19 days ago) |
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Thanks everyone for all the good advice. I should have come right back on and written this but things got busy in a hurry and I am moving back to the states. Anyway, that 1st grow turned out to be FANTASTIC!! With a huge 1st flush and a couple of smaller ones a week after each other. I've had many more since, but one thing I have learned is you never can know it all and so the more I learn the less I realize that I know! But the day I stop learning will be the day I check out. But that's just a new school to go to and start all over again learning all that comes after this life on Earth.
-------------------- What makes a fool is his inability to take his own advice. ~ William Faulkner
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