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Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? * 2
    #22108685 - 08/18/15 09:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I was shopping today at whole foods and this guy came around the corner, probably weight around 500ish pounds. He was fucking HUUUUUUUUGE!...His cart of course was full of meat and junk food, so I started chatting him up about his diet and lifestyle. He had a fucking fit and called the manager, and then they asked me to leave

All i was trying to do is give dietary advice to a guy that's probably going to drop dead in 6 months from a massive heart attack.

How can you see someone that fucking big and not say something to them? It's not normal.:shrug:


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: RanOutOfWeed] * 7
    #22108695 - 08/18/15 09:18 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

If you came over hassling me about meat at the grocery store I'd call the manager too.

Okay not really, I'd probably tell you to fuck off


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22108705 - 08/18/15 09:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I was really nice about it. I offered to coach him for free if he wanted to drop the weight. Maybe do a video and document the weight loss

But nope.


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: RanOutOfWeed] * 1
    #22108723 - 08/18/15 09:23 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Meh. I told one morbidly obese guy at my doctors that maybe if he stopped drinking  the sweet soda (He had a 16oz. bottle of Mountain Dew), maybe his diabetes and gout would improve. Boy, that one brought rain. Whatta ya gonna do? :justdontknow:


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    #22108727 - 08/18/15 09:23 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: RanOutOfWeed] * 4
    #22108730 - 08/18/15 09:24 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Doobie told me you're actually a fat piece of shit too.


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: BlackWidow]
    #22108740 - 08/18/15 09:25 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

190 6'1


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: RanOutOfWeed]
    #22108741 - 08/18/15 09:25 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Store took his side because he spends more on food than you. He's  on a fat guy message board talking shot about op now


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: my3rdeye] * 2
    #22108751 - 08/18/15 09:28 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

OP, what gives you the right or belief that you are entitled to educate the general population about their health habits without their consent?


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: Detached]
    #22108762 - 08/18/15 09:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Have you seen the general population? A true nightmare.


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: RanOutOfWeed] * 4
    #22108773 - 08/18/15 09:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I've seen it over and over again on here. People need to learn to mind their own damn business


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: RanOutOfWeed] * 2
    #22108777 - 08/18/15 09:34 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Dick move, OP.

Being fat isn't normal....but since when is 'what is normal' your business?


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: RanOutOfWeed]
    #22108789 - 08/18/15 09:36 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

OP what's your obsession with fat people?

Ha

LOL

another one


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: Detached] * 1
    #22108830 - 08/18/15 09:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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OP, what gives you the right or belief that you are entitled to educate the general population about their health habits without their consent?




He's trying to educate someone who's killing themselves, I call that courageous.


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: RanOutOfWeed]
    #22108833 - 08/18/15 09:45 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

yOu are like michelle Obama--bitching about what people eat--you probably even got the same ass-like-an-obese NFL tackle that hangs over 2 seats in the airplane and the crack of your ass shows when you bend over.


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: starfire_xes]
    #22108843 - 08/18/15 09:46 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:shrug:

Sounds like you know from personal experience. Dem details doe


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: RanOutOfWeed] * 2
    #22108918 - 08/18/15 10:01 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I was really nice about it. I offered to coach him for free if he wanted to drop the weight. Maybe do a video and document the weight loss

But nope.





and what he heard was "I'm gonna roofie you and but rape you for months while
beating and starving you because I'm a sadistic bastard that gets my jollies
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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22108929 - 08/18/15 10:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Buffalo bill, is that you?


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: RanOutOfWeed]
    #22108951 - 08/18/15 10:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Ummmm because of common decency. Do you question why people treat blind people like normal? They can't even see that's not normal Wtf???


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: RanOutOfWeed] * 1
    #22108968 - 08/18/15 10:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Buffalo bill, is that you?





WHY DO I HAVE TO ACT LIKE YOU'RE NORMAL?!?!?!?


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: RanOutOfWeed] * 4
    #22108980 - 08/18/15 10:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I was really nice about it. I offered to coach him for free if he wanted to drop the weight. Maybe do a video and document the weight loss

But nope.




you asked the guy to do a video and document his weight loss?  i woulda decked your ass as sat on your stupid face :lol: 

you embarressed the guy and tried to make him feel like he was abnormal, so abnormal that they should make a fucking video about it and document it?:lol:  you were a total douche bag


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: qman] * 2
    #22108993 - 08/18/15 10:20 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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OP, what gives you the right or belief that you are entitled to educate the general population about their health habits without their consent?




He's trying to educate someone who's killing themselves, I call that courageous.




lets make movies and document smokers and alcoholics and people who consume refined sugar and don't take multivitamins


you people don't even realize how infected you are with the police/nanny state ideaology's.  they want you to try and control each other, what you should do is mind your fucking buisness.  controlling each other is why we have so many stupid laws in this country.  if everyone minded their own buisness they wouldn't be able to pass stupid laws.  every time you rub your nose in someone elses buisness you are passing that ideaology along, like a virus or infection


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #22109003 - 08/18/15 10:23 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

If it only effected him I wouldn't care, but sadly his obesity effects the tax payers, environment, animals, etc.


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #22109020 - 08/18/15 10:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yeh seriously I wonder what kinda devient vices op partakes in as well. You dont knowanything about that guy or where he's coming from do you really care about him? I'm sure he's very aware he's fat and it bad for his health way to be an ass.


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: RanOutOfWeed]
    #22109027 - 08/18/15 10:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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If it only effected him I wouldn't care, but sadly his obesity effects the tax payers, environment, animals, etc.



Omfg ur right that one fat guy is the crux of all societies problems if we could only get him to get right and exercise we can save the world


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: RanOutOfWeed]
    #22109038 - 08/18/15 10:32 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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If it only effected him I wouldn't care, but sadly his obesity effects the tax payers, environment, animals, etc.




everything everyone does affects tax payers, environment, animals , ect.  but because fat people are so obvious they make easy targets, they wear their affects out in public for everyone to see and can't hide it like you can.  their addiction follows them everywhere, they are already haunted by it, and then here you come along to rub it in their face


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #22109065 - 08/18/15 10:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Gonna get coached to going vegan, yuck


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: makaveli8x8] * 2
    #22109072 - 08/18/15 10:39 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I was really nice about it. I offered to coach him for free if he wanted to drop the weight. Maybe do a video and document the weight loss

But nope.




you asked the guy to do a video and document his weight loss?  i woulda decked your ass as sat on your stupid face :lol: 

you embarressed the guy and tried to make him feel like he was abnormal, so abnormal that they should make a fucking video about it and document it?:lol:  you were a total douche bag




I normally don't agree with makaveli at all, but he's correct. Saying that kind of thing unprompted to a stranger is the mark of a real cunt.


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: RanOutOfWeed]
    #22109074 - 08/18/15 10:40 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Do people treat you like you are normal?


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #22109077 - 08/18/15 10:42 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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you asked the guy to do a video and document his weight loss?  i woulda decked your ass as sat on your stupid face :lol: 




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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: Niffla]
    #22109086 - 08/18/15 10:44 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Normal is a relative term neway.


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #22109090 - 08/18/15 10:46 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

i know several people that are always commenting on heavy or obese people, i always think, i get your point but why do you need to say it? no business of mine.


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #22109096 - 08/18/15 10:48 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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qman said:
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OP, what gives you the right or belief that you are entitled to educate the general population about their health habits without their consent?




He's trying to educate someone who's killing themselves, I call that courageous.




lets make movies and document smokers and alcoholics and people who consume refined sugar and don't take multivitamins


you people don't even realize how infected you are with the police/nanny state ideaology's.  they want you to try and control each other, what you should do is mind your fucking buisness.  controlling each other is why we have so many stupid laws in this country.  if everyone minded their own buisness they wouldn't be able to pass stupid laws.  every time you rub your nose in someone elses buisness you are passing that ideaology along, like a virus or infection




Yeees.

I think it's this new age social media shit thay people think they can tell other people how to live.  People need to learn to mind their own business as been stated multiple times in this thread.

These freaking "nib noses" make me sick. They are way worse then obese people. Jesus let people live how they want to. If they want to eat themselves to death that's their problem. seeing a fat person in a grocery store doesn't hurt anybody unless they take the last 5 packs of oreos  and you wanted one. 

I don't know if you are trolling or what. I sincerely hope you are.  But there are people that do shit like that and they  are the most annoying, biggest douchers, most annoying, dumb arses that annoy everyone.  Annoyancers!

Get a life and oh ya mind yo biz.


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: RanOutOfWeed] * 1
    #22109097 - 08/18/15 10:48 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

This reminds me of some Christians who chose a certain "sin" to elevate above all the others so they can self-righteously proclaim they are trying to save souls when in reality they are stoking their own pride.

What other secular "sins" might be invisible to the eye but offensive to OP? What does he do that I or another may take offense at or feel justified to accost someone uninvited?

I don't care what the underlying prejudices are, harassing strangers with your self-righteous crusade is flat out rude.


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #22109125 - 08/18/15 10:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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lets make movies and document smokers and alcoholics and people who consume refined sugar and don't take multivitamins


you people don't even realize how infected you are with the police/nanny state ideaology's.  they want you to try and control each other, what you should do is mind your fucking buisness.  controlling each other is why we have so many stupid laws in this country.  if everyone minded their own buisness they wouldn't be able to pass stupid laws.  every time you rub your nose in someone elses buisness you are passing that ideaology along, like a virus or infection




missed this earlier

this is a great fuckin post

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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: RanOutOfWeed]
    #22109133 - 08/18/15 11:02 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Ultimately, you gotta let people do what they wanna do to/for themselves.
You could be healthy as pie, and still get hit by a bus.

This big fella you were lecturing could out live you with his cart full of junk food... there's no telling till the chips (fritos?) fall.

  Whats normal anyway??
Normal=boring and we should never become uniform like robots marching along


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: RanOutOfWeed]
    #22109167 - 08/18/15 11:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal?



You don't. It's called having some fucking courtesy.


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #22109178 - 08/18/15 11:20 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Fucking fat fuckers make me sick.


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #22109227 - 08/18/15 11:39 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Fucking fat fuckers make me sick.





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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #22109256 - 08/18/15 11:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Fucking fat fuckers make me sick.




What a nice guy you are! yay you


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: Oeric McKenna]
    #22109293 - 08/19/15 12:12 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

i dont get why you care

if anything, the world could use a good culling of humans. we might not have 'too many' yet, but why not just let us fatties kill ourselves off?

soon enough the world will be overpopulated, and you might regret telling all of those fattie mc fatters to straighten themselves up when you're competing with them


i weigh 220, give or take 5 pounds at the moment, and i refuse to apologize for being fat, and i dont need some vegan to come up and give me dieting tips


anything that you can tell a fattie, they can find online themselves. why dont you just keep to yourself and not harass obese strangers?


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: RanOutOfWeed]
    #22109541 - 08/19/15 02:29 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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190 6'1





is this your male persona, or your female persona..? i'm confused.


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    #22109595 - 08/19/15 03:14 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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If it only effected him I wouldn't care, but sadly his obesity effects the tax payers, environment, animals, etc.





That mentality right there. That is the cancer eating society.


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: Asante]
    #22109645 - 08/19/15 03:53 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

You need to mind your business. You deserved to get kicked out of the store

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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: RanOutOfWeed]
    #22109650 - 08/19/15 03:57 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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190 6'1



I hope you're a male otherwise you need to take your own advice and document your own ass.

Lol@video taping. This topic is troll probably...


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: nicechrisman] * 1
    #22109710 - 08/19/15 04:49 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Do people treat you like you are normal?



Only when he runs out of weed... :supercrankey:
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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: vinsue]
    #22109736 - 08/19/15 05:05 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

It was a dick move, sucks you got fired, but you kinda deserved it. Especially for saying you want to video tape the progress...


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    #22109824 - 08/19/15 05:51 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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    #22109864 - 08/19/15 06:14 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Take a breath dude.. Lol.

Dude/chick/cousin is almost certainly just a troll. Look at his threads. I play a long because I'm bored (same reason I play along with the xxx pages for genitalia posts) but I'd never let myself get that worked up over it. He probably didn't even go the store today.


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22109872 - 08/19/15 06:19 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah you're right lol might of went a little overboard, was already a little pissed at real life shit and people like OP I already hate so it gave me an excuse to vent.


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #22109930 - 08/19/15 06:45 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

OP is exactly the reason why I don't have to much to do with people


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #22109937 - 08/19/15 06:48 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Live and let live. If he wants to be an unhealthy fat fuck, let him. If you chatted me up about my diet in general I wouldn't like it very much either. I'm sure yours isn't perfect. No one's is.


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: bukkake]
    #22109981 - 08/19/15 07:12 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

W3 are kind of semsative in America. Always convincwd we know what is best for ourselves. We are a fat fuck country. I wpuld mich sooner loook down on someone dor being fat then being ugly, or whatever. It is easy ro comtroll, the info is out there.
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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #22109988 - 08/19/15 07:15 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I weigh 110, 5'10, let me coach you niggas.

No fast food, no soda, limit processed food.
Eat vegetables, drink water or coffee, and just stop fucking plowing on that food, jesus fucking christ. :thatsaten:

I cant even talk to morbidly obese people hardly:kummeli:


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: MajickMuffin]
    #22110003 - 08/19/15 07:19 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

you lack empathy


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #22110010 - 08/19/15 07:21 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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you lack empathy



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    #22110017 - 08/19/15 07:25 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

110 and 5'10"? So you're a woman, you're 12, or you're so grossly skinny that you have no place judging a fat person? I bet you couldn't gain muscle or weight if you tried, so you're pissed there's all those fat bastards out there with more muscle on their one leg than you got on your whole body.


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    #22110025 - 08/19/15 07:29 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yeh dewd you need to like drink ensure and eat food your disgustingly skinny i bet having sex with you is like fucking a sack of bones gross dewd


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    #22110038 - 08/19/15 07:34 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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you people don't even realize how infected you are with the police/nanny state ideaology's.  they want you to try and control each other, what you should do is mind your fucking buisness.  controlling each other is why we have so many stupid laws in this country.  if everyone minded their own buisness they wouldn't be able to pass stupid laws.  every time you rub your nose in someone elses buisness you are passing that ideaology along, like a virus or infection




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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: RanOutOfWeed]
    #22110043 - 08/19/15 07:35 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I was shopping today at whole foods and this guy came around the corner, probably weight around 500ish pounds. He was fucking HUUUUUUUUGE!...His cart of course was full of meat and junk food, so I started chatting him up about his diet and lifestyle. He had a fucking fit and called the manager, and then they asked me to leave

All i was trying to do is give dietary advice to a guy that's probably going to drop dead in 6 months from a massive heart attack.

How can you see someone that fucking big and not say something to them? It's not normal.:shrug:




Cause they're people.

It'd be like

Yo you fat *judgemental asshole*

Then fat guy should be like

Yo you're a loser junkie

See what I did there? Don't judge.


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: ergoticmandala]
    #22110061 - 08/19/15 07:41 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I used to be a bit of a big dude, not morbidly obese but bigger than I wanted to be. It was the first thing I thought about in the morning when I'd look in the mirror and that last thing I'd think about getting undressed to go to bed. Telling a fat dude he is big and needs to lose weight is like telling a cloud the sun is hot and lives above the earth.

Body shaming is lame anyway; everyone is sacred. Some people just live differently, and have their own lives to live. All in all they are still human; regardless of your ethos.

If you have a problem with the use of our tax money, protest against our military and prison industrial complex instead... that's just my opinion, man.


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #22110063 - 08/19/15 07:41 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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110 and 5'10"? So you're a woman, you're 12, or you're so grossly skinny that you have no place judging a fat person? I bet you couldn't gain muscle or weight if you tried, so you're pissed there's all those fat bastards out there with more muscle on their one leg than you got on your whole body.



Yeah it's odd that he says that as if that's a desirable physique. That's well into anorexia/concentration camp territory.


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: psi]
    #22110071 - 08/19/15 07:44 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

If I weighed 110lbs I'd be decaying.


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #22110077 - 08/19/15 07:45 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

edit: my friend gilfriend is fat and they've been going out for 3 years she hasn't shrunk one bit


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: RanOutOfWeed]
    #22110092 - 08/19/15 07:51 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I was shopping today at whole foods and this guy came around the corner, probably weight around 500ish pounds. He was fucking HUUUUUUUUGE!...His cart of course was full of meat and junk food, so I started chatting him up about his diet and lifestyle. He had a fucking fit and called the manager, and then they asked me to leave

All i was trying to do is give dietary advice to a guy that's probably going to drop dead in 6 months from a massive heart attack.

How can you see someone that fucking big and not say something to them? It's not normal.:shrug:




It's a gutsy thing to do and if your heart was in the right place of really wanting to be helpful, then why not.  You're right, the guy is headed for a dead end soon at that size.


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #22110104 - 08/19/15 07:59 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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if your heart was in the right place of really wanting to be helpful, then why not.





Does this sound like his heart was in the right place?


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If it only effected him I wouldn't care, but sadly his obesity effects the tax payers, environment, animals, etc.




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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: MajickMuffin]
    #22110130 - 08/19/15 08:08 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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No fast food, no soda, limit processed food.
Eat vegetables, drink water or coffee, and just stop fucking plowing on that food, jesus fucking christ.

I cant even talk to morbidly obese people hardly



I'm not the biggest fan of fat people, but how do you know they aren't on a medication that increases their appetite or causes them to gain weight? Oops. Same goes for the OP that said it "effects (sic) the taxpayers, environment, animals, etc."


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    #22110141 - 08/19/15 08:10 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I weigh 110, 5'10




110 pounds??

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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: RanOutOfWeed]
    #22110144 - 08/19/15 08:12 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I was shopping today at whole foods and this guy came around the corner, probably weight around 500ish pounds. He was fucking HUUUUUUUUGE!...His cart of course was full of meat and junk food, so I started chatting him up about his diet and lifestyle. He had a fucking fit and called the manager, and then they asked me to leave

All i was trying to do is give dietary advice to a guy that's probably going to drop dead in 6 months from a massive heart attack.

How can you see someone that fucking big and not say something to them? It's not normal.:shrug:




Congratulations man. I feel you. Being that fat is not normal.. Never was, never will be.

When it gets to the point when you go from happy to sad because you see a huge dude with a cart full of shit, it's encroaching your territory. Just like when a drunk starts yelling at you. When you're so fat that you fuck up my mood, I'm gonna say something.

For those who think it's not his fault, fuck off. McDonald is force feeding him. Its his fault. Just like a coke addict, nobody shoving that shit up his nose. I drink too much, its my fault, not Jack Daniels', its me.

Its visual pollution at this point. It's disgusting, it's practically second hand smoke. Then you have these assholes like Megan Treynor singing songs about how being fat is OK... It's not, don't encourage them.

You're tax money is gonna go towards them at some point. You have the right to bitch. You should bitch. It is your duty to bitch.

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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #22110245 - 08/19/15 08:56 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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110 and 5'10"? So you're a woman, you're 12, or you're so grossly skinny that you have no place judging a fat person? I bet you couldn't gain muscle or weight if you tried, so you're pissed there's all those fat bastards out there with more muscle on their one leg than you got on your whole body.



LOL.
You guys are silly.

Im not 'grossly skinny' or 'anarexic' in any way.

Im toned. You guys can believe that shit all you want but its not true lol.

If I weighed 90-95 I would be grossly skinny


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: MajickMuffin]
    #22110251 - 08/19/15 08:57 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Fat people are Fat because they eat too much, and they eat too much unhealthy food. Its that fucking simple. :seriousthankyou:


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    #22110257 - 08/19/15 08:58 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Fat people are Fat because they eat too much, and they eat too much unhealthy food. Its that fucking simple. :seriousthankyou:




Why should I treat you like you normal?


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: MajickMuffin]
    #22110264 - 08/19/15 09:03 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Fat people are Fat because they eat too much, and they eat too much unhealthy food. Its that fucking simple. :seriousthankyou:




Also, they don't exercise enough.  Lots of fat adults were fat as children and they can thank their parents for getting them in horrible eating habits.

How the hell can so many children be fat today?  When I was young there was maybe 1-2 fat kids in my entire grade school.


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #22110266 - 08/19/15 09:03 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

If you seen my body you would treat me like I was normal, you can look at the fucking 'averaging charts' that say im slightly underweight all you want.

Which may be true to some extent, but to look at my naked body you would call me a God.


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #22110267 - 08/19/15 09:04 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

BMI is shit. Can Google for yourself why.


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    #22110268 - 08/19/15 09:05 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I think it's important to treat people civilly and like human beings. I'm aghast sometimes when I see super morbidly obese people on scooters at the grocery store , with oxygen tanks, or even missing a foot from diabetes - and see that their cart is filled with junk. I just feel sad for them because it seems like it's a miserable existence and they're slowly killing themselves. Nonetheless, they deserve to be treated with as much respect as anyone, I really do feel for them, unless they're inherently selfish obnoxious fucks who expect everyone to bend over backwards for them with no hint of gratitude.

There's a huge lack of education, a lot of people have 0 concept of basic nutrition and even people who think they're eating healthy do not grasp how much they're eating - and many are not eating balanced diets, regardless of whether or not they buy organically grown shit and eat almond butter. I don't think it's okay that society is starting to accept obesity, it's the leading cause of death(or complications from it), it strains the healthcare system and infrastructure that requires time and money to accommodate the increasing amount of super-obese. I don't hate people for being overweight, but I hate that a lot of people are complacent about the upward trend of obesity.


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Additionally, I get that some things can make it harder to lose weight, I get that metabolism differs(only slightly, we're talking a few hundred calories), I get that some medication can make people hungrier. But so many people just use nothing but excuses, so many people claim they have thyroid issues, but it's not nearly as prevalent as people would suggest(including all underlying causes of hypothyroidism about 4.6% of the population have it)- and they never acknowledge or complain about other problems and symptoms that come with it. Ultimately it still all comes down to calorie intake, and a slow metabolism will take you down a few hundred calories to maintain your weight, you're not going to get fat off air and kale like people seem to imply.

I have an auto immune disease that is actually slowly destroying my thyroid, making it essentially non-functional - it's not the only thing that can cause an underactive thyroid but including other causes, only about 4.6% of the population is actually diagnosed. A lot of hypo-thyroid people are not overweight, and there's a lot of other symptoms that cause problems. It also has made me go from an overactive thyroid to a useless damaged one, and at first it made me gain weight easier than I was used to - I stayed within a healthy bmi range, but it also made me too tired to be as active as I was before I was medicated, and I had to eat around 1200-1300 calories to avoid gaining weight - and it sucks. 

You know what also sucks, that no one seems to mention? It's incurable, it increases my risk of other autoimmune problems like lupus, it slows my heart rate, brain function, it made my hair fall out and made me unbearably cold all the time, it causes depression and extreme fatigue, and when it doesn't get treated and gets to the last stage it can kill you via heart failure, or a myxedema coma which has a 100% mortality rate. Luckily, when it's treated you can lead a normal life with no reduction of your natural life-span.

And luckily the meds are dirt cheap even without insurance, so it really aggravates me when I someone I know claims to have an underactive thyroid when I see them eating constantly, and when they have no other symptoms which normally cause people to seek medical care. And if they do have a thyroid issue, regardless of what is causing it, it is easy and cheap to treat once you finally get the medication right.

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Quote:

XLCaps said:
110 and 5'10"? So you're a woman, you're 12, or you're so grossly skinny that you have no place judging a fat person? I bet you couldn't gain muscle or weight if you tried, so you're pissed there's all those fat bastards out there with more muscle on their one leg than you got on your whole body.



LOL.
You guys are silly.

Im not 'grossly skinny' or 'anarexic' in any way.

Im toned. You guys can believe that shit all you want but its not true lol.

If I weighed 90-95 I would be grossly skinny





Your bmi indicates you're quite underweight. It doesn't mean you're anorexic, and a lot of people who are "naturally skinny" do just eat what they want, but what they want is not enough to make them gain weight. There are health risks with being underweight, and there are more risks than someone who is slightly(and I mean slightly, not obese) overweight.

You also might have hyperthyroidism or graves disease. I went from hyperthyroidism to hypothyroidism, and the former is more dangerous, it speeds everything up and it is not healthy for you heart - hypothyroidism will give you heart failure if it's severe enough and not treated, but it'll take a longer time and people who are hypo usually seek medical care sooner.


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    #22110269 - 08/19/15 09:05 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

no I would call you a person jus like the fat guy


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    #22110275 - 08/19/15 09:06 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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BMI is shit. Can Google for yourself why.



OMG since your such an expert why not jus tell us yourself and how it relates to a skinny person?


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    #22110277 - 08/19/15 09:07 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I wish America took all the fat guys and put them into Sumo and then we could all over the world bet on which fat guy would win.



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    #22110279 - 08/19/15 09:07 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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no I would call you a person jus like the fat guy



I couldn't care less.

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    #22110287 - 08/19/15 09:09 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I wont even dignify that with a response :snub:


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    #22110288 - 08/19/15 09:10 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Because I'm too fat and lazy of course.

Honestly I don't give enough of a shit to point out article after article discrediting it. If you don't wanna Google it on your own, why the hell are you going to read anything I post?

It's shit, it's known to be shit, even by experts.


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    #22110290 - 08/19/15 09:10 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

The pic of Pubbers thread is at the top majick, prove us all wrong


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    #22110291 - 08/19/15 09:11 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I wont even dignify that with a response :snub:



You just did. And your the one saying that you would look at me the same as a morbidly obese person.

I could eat all the unhealthy food I want, processed shit, fatty stuff, and I will still not get past 115.
It will change with time its kind of a heritage thing my father was the same way at my age but now he is average.


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: Patlal]
    #22110293 - 08/19/15 09:12 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Congratulations man. I feel you. Being that fat is not normal.. Never was, never will be.

When it gets to the point when you go from happy to sad because you see a huge dude with a cart full of shit, it's encroaching your territory. Just like when a drunk starts yelling at you. When you're so fat that you fuck up my mood, I'm gonna say something.

For those who think it's not his fault, fuck off. McDonald is force feeding him. Its his fault. Just like a coke addict, nobody shoving that shit up his nose. I drink too much, its my fault, not Jack Daniels', its me.

Its visual pollution at this point. It's disgusting, it's practically second hand smoke. Then you have these assholes like Megan Treynor singing songs about how being fat is OK... It's not, don't encourage them.

You're tax money is gonna go towards them at some point. You have the right to bitch. You should bitch. It is your duty to bitch.

But then again, I'm a fucking psycho :shrug:




This has to be the dumbest most unrelated comment I've ever seen on here.

Did.the guy say it wasn't his fault? Mayne he wants to be that way.

You compared second hand smoke to looking at something :lolsy:

If someone is so fat they fuck up your mood, theres something wrong with you.

I usually like your post, but the level of retard in this one is off the charts, I'm pretty sure you just became the tardking. I don't even feel like tackling the rest of it because it's so blatantly obvious on its own






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    #22110303 - 08/19/15 09:17 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Patalal is having trouble putting himself in someone elses shoes. He's pob never even done hard drugs the blind hypocrisy continues. Also if some one is so fat it fucks up your mood you have serious emotional issues.


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    #22110308 - 08/19/15 09:19 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Eat vegetables





get the fuck out of here with that crazy talk



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if your heart was in the right place of really wanting to be helpful, then why not.





Does this sound like his heart was in the right place?


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If it only effected him I wouldn't care, but sadly his obesity effects the tax payers, environment, animals, etc.







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    #22110317 - 08/19/15 09:23 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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This has to be the dumbest most unrelated comment I've ever seen on here.

Did.the guy say it wasn't his fault? Mayne he wants to be that way.

You compared second hand smoke to looking at something :lolsy:

If someone is so fat they fuck up your mood, theres something wrong with you.

I usually like your post, but the level of retard in this one is off the charts, I'm pretty sure you just became the tardking. I don't even feel like tackling the rest of it because it's so blatantly obvious on its own






I tend to agree that getting upset by the size/weight of a person you don't even know is pretty silly if not downright stupid.  I sometimes find it frustrating in terms of the attitudes of the people around me but whether or not a complete stranger chooses to get in shape ???  Lots of people making bad choices about prescription meds, alcohol, drugs, food, exercise, human relations skills, education, entertainment, etc.

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    #22110334 - 08/19/15 09:28 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yea...Patlal drinks too much, that will.eventually effect his health and as he admitted, thats his fault and therefore our taxes will be implemented, so as he said, it's our duty to bitch.

Riot against Patlal NOW :lolsy: I don't think people.quite understand why that tax argument is so unbelievably stupid, we'd have.to restrict everyone in almost every way for.that to be a viable argument.


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Congratulations man. I feel you. Being that fat is not normal.. Never was, never will be.

When it gets to the point when you go from happy to sad because you see a huge dude with a cart full of shit, it's encroaching your territory. Just like when a drunk starts yelling at you. When you're so fat that you fuck up my mood, I'm gonna say something.

For those who think it's not his fault, fuck off. McDonald is force feeding him. Its his fault. Just like a coke addict, nobody shoving that shit up his nose. I drink too much, its my fault, not Jack Daniels', its me.

Its visual pollution at this point. It's disgusting, it's practically second hand smoke. Then you have these assholes like Megan Treynor singing songs about how being fat is OK... It's not, don't encourage them.

You're tax money is gonna go towards them at some point. You have the right to bitch. You should bitch. It is your duty to bitch.

But then again, I'm a fucking psycho :shrug:




This has to be the dumbest most unrelated comment I've ever seen on here.

Did.the guy say it wasn't his fault? Mayne he wants to be that way.

You compared second hand smoke to looking at something :lolsy:

If someone is so fat they fuck up your mood, theres something wrong with you.

I usually like your post, but the level of retard in this one is off the charts, I'm pretty sure you just became the tardking. I don't even feel like tackling the rest of it because it's so blatantly obvious on its own









ehh, I get what here's saying as far as the consequences of obesity and personal choice. It's a bit harsh, but he's right that this fat-acceptance thing is not healthy, is a very large strain on the economy, and that ultimately it does come down to personal choices.
Weight loss is simple, but that doesn't mean it's easy.

That being said, I think it's akin to other addictions, and I'm sympathetic to anyone struggling with one who's trying to get past it. We need to educate people about the importance of diet and nutrition in areas where is a profound lack of knowledge about the risks and consequences of it, and we need to recognize that a lot of people struggling with weight often have other issues, whether it's depression, whether it's hormonal - in which case it is still very possible to avoid associated weight gain when people pay attention to how much they eat, learn to recognize proper portions, and learn to eat the best food for their body to avoid blood sugar spikes/dips and excessive hunger.

I don't think it's okay to be complacent about anything that kills millions of people a year, especially when it's avoidable, and is an alarmingly sudden and aggressive change the way that obesity and related complications have been the last 20-30 years. Do I think the government should be banning or excessively taxing junk food? No, but I do think there needs to be more outreach and aggressive treatment geared at reducing obesity.

Again, ultimately it comes down to your own choice. If someone is okay with living like that, it's no skin off my back - but when it's as widespread as it is and rooted in the culture, there are definite consequences when it comes to the economy/health system, and infrastructure costs.


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    #22110337 - 08/19/15 09:28 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

He says that he doesnt care about the person himself but for the alleged burden this person puts on society.

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    #22110347 - 08/19/15 09:32 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Actually fat people contribute more to economy because they eat more
Support local farmers
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    #22110349 - 08/19/15 09:34 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I don't disagree, but it always comes down to personal choice, and every single individual has the right to do whatever they want with their own body.

Education is the most we could do, with obesity, drug use, anything. And after that it comes down to personal choice.

The argument that it ultimately does effect society/economy can be applied.to almost every single thing people do, and there isn't much you can do to stop.it unless we restrict personal choice, which I will always be against.


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    #22110391 - 08/19/15 09:48 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

if fat people didn't eat so much food, the food in the stores would be old,stale,rotten, so they keep shit fresh for the skinny folk

its also of my opinion that they are the driving force behind all your favorite foods, without them your food would be bland and tasteless, you'd be left with nothing but ramen noodles which you never see a fat person eating, for good reason, they have standards and skinny people don't.


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    #22110403 - 08/19/15 09:52 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Not to get into really srs bsns or anything, but on the subject of personal choice, from an early age we are bombarded with fast food advertisements and generally promoted unhealthy shit which do make us fat. Can't blame the child, can blame the parents. But really how are parents supposed to adequately compete with advertisements in the tens of millions of dollars for their screaming demon spawns? When these children inevitably grow up they maintain the same diet and eat garbage (McDonalds, Pizza Hut, Burger King, junk food). Obviously not everyone becomes fat because of it but many are. The word moderation has no place in American culture in any facet. Having the world's most obese population is just an example of the US' decadence.


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    #22110409 - 08/19/15 09:53 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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He says that he doesnt care about the person himself but for the alleged burden this person puts on society.

Thats not having your heart in the right place.





It's a valid concern. I think it lacks empathy, but as long as he's not bullying someone because of their weight, it's just an opinion.

People make tons of judgement about smokers, and while secondhand smoke is a legitimate thing to be mad about, most people just consider it disgusting and that a smoker has a poor regard for their own health. Sure, a lot do, but what if they're trying to slowly wean themselves off or quit and had a terrible day? What if they are otherwise healthy and only an occasional smoker that is courteous about where and when they do it and properly disposes of the butts.

I think that overweight people could be viewed in that light, sure many do have poor regard for their health, it does affect everyone through economic strain, but they're also human. They might be depressed or have an issue with binge eating, which is very much a legitimate eating disorder. What if they are trying to lose weight and in the early stages, or maybe have lost a bunch of weight already?

When you look at it as a cultural trend and a widespread health issue, you're not looking at individuals, you're looking at numbers and statistics, which are alarming - especially the amount of people who die prematurely who could've been saved.
But on a person by person basis, it's unfair to draw conclusions about a stranger, many overweight people are kind, smart, productive members of society who do not by any means deserve to be bullied or discriminated against professionally, but it is still an alarming cultural trend that we need to try to improve, if for nothing else, then for the sake of the health of our citizens.

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I don't disagree, but it always comes down to personal choice, and every single individual has the right to do whatever they want with their own body.

Education is the most we could do, with obesity, drug use, anything. And after that it comes down to personal choice.

The argument that it ultimately does effect society/economy can be applied.to almost every single thing people do, and there isn't much you can do to stop.it unless we restrict personal choice, which I will always be against.




You replied after I wrote up this post, but it still conveys my opinion. I agree that everyone has a right to do what they will to their own body - but I think that there are a lot of shady practices done by the food industry that contributes to the epidemic, witholds information from consumers, and has no regard for the health of anyone - and government lobbying ensures that all the shadiness and greed is there to stay and won't face consequences.

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if fat people didn't eat so much food, the food in the stores would be old,stale,rotten, so they keep shit fresh for the skinny folk

its also of my opinion that they are the driving force behind all your favorite foods, without them your food would be bland and tasteless, you'd be left with nothing but ramen noodles which you never see a fat person eating, for good reason, they have standards and skinny people don't.





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    #22110413 - 08/19/15 09:54 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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He says that he doesnt care about the person himself but for the alleged burden this person puts on society.

Thats not having your heart in the right place.



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    #22110422 - 08/19/15 09:58 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

What about the extra health care costs associated with being overweight that i end up paying for through higher premiums/increased treatment cost?

You should have to pay more at the hospital/doctor/pharmacy if youre obese. I shouldnt have to pay for your fatness.

And i cannot stand when my doctor walks in and he/she is like 300lbs. Like really....youre going to give me medical advice?

I just dont get it. I mean im not small(6'1" 190) but i run every day and dont over do it on the sweets. If i ever got that big i wouldnt be able to look in the mirror and would immediately switch to only eating salads and hitting the gym twice a day:shrug: Im not trying to minimize the plight of fatty, losing weight is difficult, but it is not impossible. Ive spent the past couple months losing 30lbs so i could back to 190, and im still trying to lose 15 more. If someone who loves to cook and is as lazy as i am can lose weight, anyone can.


The only ones i feel bad for are the kids. When i go run at the beach or park and 3/4 of the kids i see under 13 are either waddling or almost rolling over to the picnic table for another hotdog it astounds me. How could any parent do that to their kid? For the most part the kid is too young to know any better so only the parents are to blame and in my mind is coming pretty close to abuse.


Why do people not understand that it is not oke to be so large? Do they not realize how crazy good you can feel with even a halfway decent diet and minimal exercise? I cant put into words how gross/self conscious/low energy i felt only 30lbs ago, let alone how bad it must feel to be really overweight. That alone should be more than enough motivation for any reasonably sane individual:2cents:


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    #22110456 - 08/19/15 10:03 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

seriously walking in to a grocery store and you're bitching about fat people??? what about bitching about the fucking parents in a grocery store, or how about people who just stand and talk to someone they know and just ran into and give no room for other people who are actually there to buy groceries???


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    #22110465 - 08/19/15 10:04 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Fat tax :strokebread:


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    #22110486 - 08/19/15 10:06 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Seeing very obese kids breaks my heart, sometimes you come across whole families who are super morbidly obese, and it really must suck to grow up being taught or even encouraged to eat like that - I've known a few people who grew up like that and when they finally decided to lose weight, their family gave them so much shit, trying to tempt or guilt them into their previous habits, telling them they're not healthy or too skinny when they're still obese because their body image is distorted and being 100lbs over weight has been normalized to them.

With kids, no one is at fault but their parents, and they are endangering the welfare of their child, and are teaching them poor habits and setting them up for possibly a lifelong struggle.


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how about those skinny dudes with no life that randomly walk up to fat strangers and act like their opinion matters and they are better than you


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    #22110490 - 08/19/15 10:06 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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as long as he's not bullying someone because of their weight, it's just an opinion.





He is. he's pushing the guy into losing weight and getting recorded because hes allegedly so extrordinarily fat.

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    #22110501 - 08/19/15 10:08 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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What about the extra health care costs associated with being overweight that i end up paying for through higher premiums/increased treatment cost?

You should have to pay more at the hospital/doctor/pharmacy if youre obese. I shouldnt have to pay for your fatness.

And i cannot stand when my doctor walks in and he/she is like 300lbs. Like really....youre going to give me medical advice?

I just dont get it. I mean im not small(6'1" 190) but i run every day and dont over do it on the sweets. If i ever got that big i wouldnt be able to look in the mirror and would immediately switch to only eating salads and hitting the gym twice a day:shrug: Im not trying to minimize the plight of fatty, losing weight is difficult, but it is not impossible. Ive spent the past couple months losing 30lbs so i could back to 190, and im still trying to lose 15 more. If someone who loves to cook and is as lazy as i am can lose weight, anyone can.


The only ones i feel bad for are the kids. When i go run at the beach or park and 3/4 of the kids i see under 13 are either waddling or almost rolling over to the picnic table for another hotdog it astounds me. How could any parent do that to their kid? For the most part the kid is too young to know any better so only the parents are to blame and in my mind is coming pretty close to abuse.


Why do people not understand that it is not oke to be so large? Do they not realize how crazy good you can feel with even a halfway decent diet and minimal exercise? I cant put into words how gross/self conscious/low energy i felt only 30lbs ago, let alone how bad it must feel to be really overweight. That alone should be more than enough motivation for any reasonably sane individual:2cents:





meh, i think it makes more sense to just pay your own bill. some people who are fat might actually be perfectly healthy or at least not use any more healthcare than other healthy people.

if you think people who use more taxes ought to pay higher taxes, why not say to hell with what is paid for by taxes in the first place and have everyone pay their own bills? i mean there are still CHARITABLE organizations that give everyone equal help with no discrimination (ie food banks) why can't the same idea work with health?


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    #22110508 - 08/19/15 10:11 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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how about those skinny dudes with no life that randomly walk up to fat strangers and act like their opinion matters and they are better than you




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    #22110512 - 08/19/15 10:12 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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What about the extra health care costs associated with being overweight that i end up paying for through higher premiums/increased treatment cost?

You should have to pay more at the hospital/doctor/pharmacy if youre obese. I shouldnt have to pay for your fatness.

And i cannot stand when my doctor walks in and he/she is like 300lbs. Like really....youre going to give me medical advice?

I just dont get it. I mean im not small(6'1" 190) but i run every day and dont over do it on the sweets. If i ever got that big i wouldnt be able to look in the mirror and would immediately switch to only eating salads and hitting the gym twice a day:shrug: Im not trying to minimize the plight of fatty, losing weight is difficult, but it is not impossible. Ive spent the past couple months losing 30lbs so i could back to 190, and im still trying to lose 15 more. If someone who loves to cook and is as lazy as i am can lose weight, anyone can.


The only ones i feel bad for are the kids. When i go run at the beach or park and 3/4 of the kids i see under 13 are either waddling or almost rolling over to the picnic table for another hotdog it astounds me. How could any parent do that to their kid? For the most part the kid is too young to know any better so only the parents are to blame and in my mind is coming pretty close to abuse.


Why do people not understand that it is not oke to be so large? Do they not realize how crazy good you can feel with even a halfway decent diet and minimal exercise? I cant put into words how gross/self conscious/low energy i felt only 30lbs ago, let alone how
bad it must feel to be really overweight. That alone should be more than enough motivation for any reasonably sane individual:2cents:




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    #22110513 - 08/19/15 10:12 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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seriously walking in to a grocery store and you're bitching about fat people??? what about bitching about the fucking parents in a grocery store, or how about people who just stand and talk to someone they know and just ran into and give no room for other people who are actually there to buy groceries???



How about walking into a grocery store and not bitching about anything do you people really go around looking at people thinking "look at that fat ass" or "Look at that shitty parent with thier bratty child" seriously?


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    #22110532 - 08/19/15 10:17 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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as long as he's not bullying someone because of their weight, it's just an opinion.





He is. he's pushing the guy into losing weight and getting recorded because hes allegedly so extrordinarily fat.

That IS bullying. Body shaming.




I was referencing one of Patlal's posts but I forgot to quote it, and didn't look at who you were replying too - woops!
And I agree. I think people who give unsolicited advice or stick there noses in other people's business are annoying at best, if it's a close friend or family who you're genuinely concerned about, it's one thing to sit down and talk to them and try to team up with them to be healthier or something. If I was worried about someone I cared about I would try to be as much of a positive influence as I could and try and help them as much as they'd accept. Sometimes people don't want it, and that's up to them, but that's the only case where I would confront someone's lifestyle choice.

Sometimes fatshaming does persuade people to lose weight which I guess is why some people think the end justifies the means, but it also can hurt someone's self-worth enough and cause them to regress and have no motivation to change because they've been conditioned to devalue themselves to the point of severe depression. I agree that it's either very cruel or very ignorant to do that to someone.


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    #22110535 - 08/19/15 10:17 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Lol. The funny thing is you're probably paying for his food as well. Dumb fuck is prolly on foodstamps or some other government program that pays him to sit on his ass because being fat is a disability now.


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    #22110541 - 08/19/15 10:19 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

yah so whats the OP's response to loud annoying kids at the store?  does he go up to them and tell them how to behave?  does he tell their parents they are so bad at parenting that they should take a obedience class and have it recorded and documented?


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    #22110548 - 08/19/15 10:21 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

lol yea at least in amusement, if you can't function in society in without slowing down everyone around beyond what is necessary to exist then your an idiot with low self-awareness. and on a bad day it can be pretty annoying.

my point is the fat people don't physically disrupt the flow of traffic. people who are completely unaware of themselves and other people around, actually has a negative effect on people completely their shopping and getting out of the store.


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    #22110551 - 08/19/15 10:22 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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as long as he's not bullying someone because of their weight, it's just an opinion.





He is. he's pushing the guy into losing weight and getting recorded because hes allegedly so extrordinarily fat.

That IS bullying. Body shaming.




I have a pool billiards teammate (age 70) that is a little overweight but does try to eat well and studies nutrition, ect.

One day we were playing at the pool hall and he noticed a very over weight man with 2 children, he went up to the guy and said he has some very good DVD's in his car that help people who are overweight and he was willing to let him have it for free, they guy refused.

He wasn't trying to shame the man, he was just talking to him about how he had to deal with losing weight and these DVD videos really helped him out, but again he was getting in someone's personal business. :shrug:


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: SurReality]
    #22110557 - 08/19/15 10:22 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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meh, i think it makes more sense to just pay your own bill. some people who are fat might actually be perfectly healthy or at least not use any more healthcare than other healthy people.

if you think people who use more taxes ought to pay higher taxes, why not say to hell with what is paid for by taxes in the first place and have everyone pay their own bills? i mean there are still CHARITABLE organizations that give everyone equal help with no discrimination (ie food banks) why can't the same idea work with health?



Let's begin with old people and the disabled. Same logic. Case in point, no one other than the person himself/herself knows why the fuck they're fat. People with down syndrome are statistically more overweight than the general population. Getting into social Darwinistic dreams about taxes we should just execute them.


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seriously walking in to a grocery store and you're bitching about fat people??? what about bitching about the fucking parents in a grocery store, or how about people who just stand and talk to someone they know and just ran into and give no room for other people who are actually there to buy groceries???



How about walking into a grocery store and not bitching about anything do you people really go around looking at people thinking "look at that fat ass" or "Look at that shitty parent with thier bratty child" seriously?





uh, objection to that last thing. I was at the doctors office recently when some woman came in with her kid(probably 4-5) downing this massive sugary slushie, and he was just going crazy. She was talking to the receptionist because they knew eachother, and this kid was just going completely nuts - at first I was just like 'holy fuck, that is a lot of sugar for a kid', and me and this old guy just silently tolerated it not wanting to really interact with anyone - but then he got up on top of a fucking glass table. The poor guy ended up having to basically babysit this kid while his mom payed 0 attention so this kid wouldn't hurt himself.

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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #22110566 - 08/19/15 10:24 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I.....I just can't handle this thread anymore, the fact that quite a few people have used that tax argument when that could be applied to anything even shit we all choose to do.....live and let live, and realize your vices undoubtedly effect other people too :imout:


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    #22110571 - 08/19/15 10:25 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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yah so whats the OP's response to loud annoying kids at the store?  does he go up to them and tell them how to behave?  does he tell their parents they are so bad at parenting that they should take a obedience class and have it recorded and documented?




i don't do this (i know your asking about OP)

but if i see or heard about someone doing it, i would actually have a level of respect for shaming people who parent badly. but fat shaming is i don't totally agree with.


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    #22110574 - 08/19/15 10:26 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

An odd aspect of obesity is that you can actually eat your way into long term disability and dependence.  It your obesity prevents you from getting a job and a doctor calls it a long term health problem, you could get government money for a long time.


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    #22110585 - 08/19/15 10:28 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I have a pool billiards teammate (age 70) that is a little overweight but does try to eat well and studies nutrition, ect.

One day we were playing at the pool hall and he noticed a very over weight man with 2 children, he went up to the guy and said he has some very good DVD's in his car that help people who are overweight and he was willing to let him have it for free, they guy refused.

He wasn't trying to shame the man, he was just talking to him about how he had to deal with losing weight and these DVD videos really helped him out, but again he was getting in someone's personal business. :shrug:




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    #22110598 - 08/19/15 10:30 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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seriously walking in to a grocery store and you're bitching about fat people??? what about bitching about the fucking parents in a grocery store, or how about people who just stand and talk to someone they know and just ran into and give no room for other people who are actually there to buy groceries???



How about walking into a grocery store and not bitching about anything do you people really go around looking at people thinking "look at that fat ass" or "Look at that shitty parent with thier bratty child" seriously?





uh, objection to that last thing. I was at the doctors office recently when some woman came in with her kid(probably 4-5) downing this massive sugary slushie, and he was just going crazy. She was talking to the receptionist because they knew eachother, and this kid was just going completely nuts - at first I was just like 'holy fuck, that is a lot of sugar for a kid', and me and this old guy just silently tolerated it not wanting to really interact with anyone - but then he got up on top of a fucking glass table. The poor guy ended up having to basically babysit this kid while his mom payed 0 attention so this kid wouldn't hurt himself.

I will silently judge those people with all my might while simultaneously being too chicken to speak up.



Wow I dont think like that at all. I prob would have done something if I thought the kid was actually in danger of hurting themselves but I wouldnt really think badly of the parent really. I mean kids act out all the time and I'm not a parent but from what ive seen im sure it gets exhusting. That goes back to my point of you dont know that person at all they could have been having the most hectic day of their life with that kid. :shrug:


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    #22110600 - 08/19/15 10:30 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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meh, i think it makes more sense to just pay your own bill. some people who are fat might actually be perfectly healthy or at least not use any more healthcare than other healthy people.

if you think people who use more taxes ought to pay higher taxes, why not say to hell with what is paid for by taxes in the first place and have everyone pay their own bills? i mean there are still CHARITABLE organizations that give everyone equal help with no discrimination (ie food banks) why can't the same idea work with health?



Let's begin with old people and the disabled. Same logic. Case in point, no one other than the person himself/herself knows why the fuck they're fat. People with down syndrome are statistically more overweight than the general population. Getting into social Darwinistic dreams about taxes we should just execute them.




what's wrong with darwinism? darwin didin't even believe survival of the fittest, that was a tiny element in his theory. in fact darwin was more for working with other and helping. but there is a difference between taxes and charity. taxes isn't charity, its more of a robin hood idea except the different is you don't steal from the rich you steal from everyone.

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    #22110612 - 08/19/15 10:33 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Taxes are not stealing from people. He was trying to point out how dangrous and backassward it is to label a group of people as a "burden to society" or whatever


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meh, i think it makes more sense to just pay your own bill. some people who are fat might actually be perfectly healthy or at least not use any more healthcare than other healthy people.

if you think people who use more taxes ought to pay higher taxes, why not say to hell with what is paid for by taxes in the first place and have everyone pay their own bills? i mean there are still CHARITABLE organizations that give everyone equal help with no discrimination (ie food banks) why can't the same idea work with health?



Let's begin with old people and the disabled. Same logic. Case in point, no one other than the person himself/herself knows why the fuck they're fat. People with down syndrome are statistically more overweight than the general population. Getting into social Darwinistic dreams about taxes we should just execute them.




what's wrong with darwinism? darwin didin't even believe survival of the fittest, that was a tiny element in his theory. in fact darwin was more for working with other and helping. but there is a difference between taxes and charity. taxes isn't charity, its more of a robin hood idea except the different is you don't steal from the rich you steal from everyone.

and where the hell do you get execution from darwin??



"Social Darwinism" is something distinct from Darwin's own personal views.
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    #22110627 - 08/19/15 10:37 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

i wasn't labeling anyone a burden to society. it was more of a disrupt to the flow of traffic.

i mean is it ok to park in the middle of an intersection? no its fucking idiotic, its just people don't understand that traffic is in more places than just a regulated road. and just because you can't get ticketed for blocking a shopping isle doesn't mean you should.


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meh, i think it makes more sense to just pay your own bill. some people who are fat might actually be perfectly healthy or at least not use any more healthcare than other healthy people.

if you think people who use more taxes ought to pay higher taxes, why not say to hell with what is paid for by taxes in the first place and have everyone pay their own bills? i mean there are still CHARITABLE organizations that give everyone equal help with no discrimination (ie food banks) why can't the same idea work with health?



Let's begin with old people and the disabled. Same logic. Case in point, no one other than the person himself/herself knows why the fuck they're fat. People with down syndrome are statistically more overweight than the general population. Getting into social Darwinistic dreams about taxes we should just execute them.




what's wrong with darwinism? darwin didin't even believe survival of the fittest, that was a tiny element in his theory. in fact darwin was more for working with other and helping. but there is a difference between taxes and charity. taxes isn't charity, its more of a robin hood idea except the different is you don't steal from the rich you steal from everyone.

and where the hell do you get execution from darwin??



"Social Darwinism" is something distinct from Darwin's own personal views.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Darwinism




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seriously walking in to a grocery store and you're bitching about fat people??? what about bitching about the fucking parents in a grocery store, or how about people who just stand and talk to someone they know and just ran into and give no room for other people who are actually there to buy groceries???



How about walking into a grocery store and not bitching about anything do you people really go around looking at people thinking "look at that fat ass" or "Look at that shitty parent with thier bratty child" seriously?





uh, objection to that last thing. I was at the doctors office recently when some woman came in with her kid(probably 4-5) downing this massive sugary slushie, and he was just going crazy. She was talking to the receptionist because they knew eachother, and this kid was just going completely nuts - at first I was just like 'holy fuck, that is a lot of sugar for a kid', and me and this old guy just silently tolerated it not wanting to really interact with anyone - but then he got up on top of a fucking glass table. The poor guy ended up having to basically babysit this kid while his mom payed 0 attention so this kid wouldn't hurt himself.

I will silently judge those people with all my might while simultaneously being too chicken to speak up.



Wow I dont think like that at all. I prob would have done something if I thought the kid was actually in danger of hurting themselves but I wouldnt really think badly of the parent really. I mean kids act out all the time and I'm not a parent but from what ive seen im sure it gets exhusting. That goes back to my point of you dont know that person at all they could have been having the most hectic day of their life with that kid. :shrug:





I think it's sometimes safe to draw certain conclusions about people when their actions speak it. She seemed like a friendly lady, and eventually she found the kid a coloring book after she sat down, still doesn't mean she wasn't absolutely careless in that instance.  I'm not saying she's a bad person. But her inattentiveness put her kid in danger and placed the burden on a complete stranger, if that guy didn't tell that kid to get his ass down(I would've told him myself if he hadn't, but I wouldn't confront the mom) then it might've broke and that kid could've been really, really hurt while his mom was gossiping with the receptionist.

I think that's irresponsible parenting. I didn't care that he was running around like a madman, I thought it was nuts she gave him that much sugar because holy fuck a little kid on a sugar high is a handful that I imagine is a big pain in the butt to deal with especially in public but as long as she's willing to bear that responsibility then I don't care - -  ultimately I don't care until someone else is affected by their choice. In this case it's not only her, but it's her kid, and ultimately the guy who intervened.

Everyone makes judgements, it's our nature - to judge someone about something arbitrary, their way of dress, their sexuality, their choices, appearance, etc is childish - but when someone shows blatant disregard for another person's safety(or emotions), I will judge those actions.

Again, it doesn't make them a bad person overall, but I'm not obligated to agree with or like anyone, I'm obligated to respect that all of us are different and flawed and that they are very much allowed to be something I don't like or agree with without my interference. I very much subscribe to live and let live, you don't have to love everyone to be respectful of what they choose to do or not to, you just have to agree to disagree. If anything she imposed herself on other people by forcing someone else to ensure the safety of her own child.


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    #22110704 - 08/19/15 10:59 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Well i suppose your right. I'm not saying that i dont judge people im jus saying I dont walk around jus passing judgment on strangers as a form of entertainment or whatever if I do its rarely a vile thought more like oh that guy is noticably large and i guess it takes me alot to become outraged :shrug:


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    #22110718 - 08/19/15 11:04 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, I don't take cheap shots. It takes a lot to get me more than mildly grumpy, I'm mostly caught up with the absurdity of the world and of the people in it - I just couldn't believe she let her kid do a fucking jig on a glass table(the flimsy kind) and kept shooting the shit with the receptionist without a care in the world.


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    #22110721 - 08/19/15 11:04 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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    #22110735 - 08/19/15 11:06 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

LOl clealy youve never been a little boy that kid is prob a menace shes prob seen him fall outta a tree or something atleast


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    #22110776 - 08/19/15 11:10 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

If you have a male with a BMI of 40, so someone who is genuinely obese, the odds of them reaching and maintaining a healthy weight are *drumroll* 1 in 1290 source

1 in 1290

Which means that any advice to lose weight amounts to little more than torturing someone who's already in a very bad position.

If someones advice at best has a 0,078% chance of achieving the intended result, isn't it safe to say that its just a crock of shit?

1 in 1290 can turn it around under any circumstances. Thats a metabolic derangement, not a state of mind.

Once people are at BMI 40 their bodies are near irreversibly (99,92%) broken.

So FUCK OFF with the bullshit advice. If any of that five cent advice was actually doable for an obese patient you'd see a double digit percent cure rate, not 0.078%


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    #22110898 - 08/19/15 11:21 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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you people don't even realize how infected you are with the police/nanny state ideaology's.  they want you to try and control each other, what you should do is mind your fucking buisness.  controlling each other is why we have so many stupid laws in this country.  if everyone minded their own buisness they wouldn't be able to pass stupid laws.  every time you rub your nose in someone elses buisness you are passing that ideaology along, like a virus or infection




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If it only effected him I wouldn't care, but sadly his obesity effects the tax payers, environment, animals, etc.





That mentality right there. That is the cancer eating society.





These two comments right here. Read them, RanoutofWeed, then read them again.
Read them every day when you wake up and go to bed, until you start to understand what is being said here.

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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: Asante]
    #22110988 - 08/19/15 11:33 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I can safely say that I have never been a little boy, but I was still hardcore. I got trampled by a horse when I was 6 during a riding lesson, dragged upside down along side of a running horse around the same age, and hit the ground very hard a lot growing up, but she definitely wouldn't have been cool with me in that instance.

There's always inherent risk that comes with life, but shattering a glass table because you decided to dance around on top of it is definitely one of the few risks that you can significantly reduce lol - obviously it wasn't his fault or anything, and I guess if you're gonna take your chances and risk getting seriously hurt then a doctors office is the place to do it :shrug:


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If you have a male with a BMI of 40, so someone who is genuinely obese, the odds of them reaching and maintaining a healthy weight are *drumroll* 1 in 1290 source

1 in 1290

Which means that any advice to lose weight amounts to little more than torturing someone who's already in a very bad position.

If someones advice at best has a 0,078% chance of achieving the intended result, isn't it safe to say that its just a crock of shit?

1 in 1290 can turn it around under any circumstances. Thats a metabolic derangement, not a state of mind.

Once people are at BMI 40 their bodies are near irreversibly (99,92%) broken.

So FUCK OFF with the bullshit advice. If any of that five cent advice was actually doable for an obese patient you'd see a double digit percent cure rate, not 0.078%





I've heard people pull a few different percentages out regarding successful weight loss - those so called statistics are much less concrete than people think.
http://www.nytimes.com/1999/05/25/health/95-regain-lost-weight-or-do-they.html


Additionally, you speak of metabolic derangement, which is interesting because, as I mentioned previously in the thread, I have an autoimmune disease that is systemically destroying my thyroid, it is being treated now and I feel a lot better, but it was non functional without medication, in the future it might just be surgically taken out but it's too soon to tell, I was losing hair, was freezing, depressed, would sleep for days at a time, my throat constantly hurt and I had a bad cough for the better part of a year because my thyroid was swollen. I was well into the second stage(out of three stages) of the disease, which if left untreated can be deadly and in addition to metabolism really fucks with your heart, your brain. It sucks, I get it.

The law of thermodynamics dictates that weight loss is about calories - yes hormones and metabolic speed can influence your BMR, but not quite as much as people make out.
http://examine.com/faq/does-metabolism-vary-between-two-people/
Still makes life harder, but again, weight loss is simple not easy. People want to look for some big secret behind it all, but the so called 5 cent advice is the answer, and the law of physics is the thing that makes it absolute.

And sorry, but if I have a friend or family member who is experiencing dangerous health issues or is obviously struggling emotionally, I'm going to ask if they need help.
They are more than welcome to tell me to fuck off, that's a risk I'll take if there's a chance they'll accept help or at least know they're not alone and that I care. I'm not talking about stating the obvious advice I'm talking about being gym buddies(I've been way too tired to exercise for the past year, so I need a good push myself), and making goals to be healthier together. Change isn't easy.

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    #22110997 - 08/19/15 11:35 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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LOl clealy youve never been a little boy that kid is prob a menace shes prob seen him fall outta a tree or something atleast






I can safely say that I have never been a little boy, but I was still hardcore. I got trampled by a horse when I was 6 during a riding lesson, dragged upside down along side of a running horse around the same age, and hit the ground very hard a lot growing up, but she definitely wouldn't have been cool with me in that instance.

There's always inherent risk that comes with life, but shattering a glass table because you decided to dance around on top of it is definitely one of the few risks that you can significantly reduce lol - obviously it wasn't his fault or anything, and I guess if you're gonna take your chances and risk getting seriously hurt then a doctors office is the place to do it :shrug:



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If you have a male with a BMI of 40, so someone who is genuinely obese, the odds of them reaching and maintaining a healthy weight are *drumroll* 1 in 1290 source

1 in 1290

Which means that any advice to lose weight amounts to little more than torturing someone who's already in a very bad position.

If someones advice at best has a 0,078% chance of achieving the intended result, isn't it safe to say that its just a crock of shit?

1 in 1290 can turn it around under any circumstances. Thats a metabolic derangement, not a state of mind.

Once people are at BMI 40 their bodies are near irreversibly (99,92%) broken.

So FUCK OFF with the bullshit advice. If any of that five cent advice was actually doable for an obese patient you'd see a double digit percent cure rate, not 0.078%





I've heard people pull a few different percentages out regarding successful weight loss - those so called statistics are much less concrete than people think.
http://www.nytimes.com/1999/05/25/health/95-regain-lost-weight-or-do-they.html


Additionally, you speak of metabolic derangement, which is interesting because, as I mentioned previously in the thread, I have an autoimmune disease that is systemically destroying my thyroid, it is being treated now and I feel a lot better, but it was non functional without medication, in the future it might just be surgically taken out but it's too soon to tell, I was losing hair, was freezing, depressed, would sleep for days at a time, my throat constantly hurt and I had a bad cough for the better part of a year because my thyroid was swollen. I was well into the second stage(out of three stages) of the disease, which if left untreated can be deadly and in addition to metabolism really fucks with your heart, your brain. It sucks, I get it.

The law of thermodynamics dictates that weight loss is about calories - yes hormones and metabolic speed can influence your BMR, but not quite as much as people make out.
http://examine.com/faq/does-metabolism-vary-between-two-people/
Still makes life harder, but again, weight loss is simple not easy. People want to look for some big secret behind it all, but the so called 5 cent advice is the answer, and the law of physics is the thing that makes it absolute.

And sorry, but if I have a friend or family member who is experiencing dangerous health issues or is obviously struggling emotionally, I'm going to ask if they need help.
They are more than welcome to tell me to fuck off, that's a risk I'll take if there's a chance they'll accept help or at least know they're not alone and that I care. I'm not talking about stating the obvious advice I'm talking about being gym buddies(I've been way too tired to exercise for the past year, so I need a good push myself), and making goals to be healthier together. Change isn't easy.

But whatever, people can do whatever they want.




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    #22111215 - 08/19/15 12:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: pirate-blues]
    #22111229 - 08/19/15 12:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: Asante]
    #22111825 - 08/19/15 01:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Skinny and healthy arent the same thing
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    #22111885 - 08/19/15 01:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

i'm sure that has a lot to do with it... but some people ask me how i don't get fat, when i'm usually out of shape and don't eat healthy... but the answer is pretty much the same reason i'm not a coke addict or binge on drugs longer than a few day. i can't afford it. being fat is like any other addiction, at least for the vast majority, you have an abundance of resources at your disposal.


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: SurReality]
    #22112168 - 08/19/15 02:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

If you had fucked up teeth would you want some random coming up to tell you on how you could get dental work? I'm sure you'd already have known. Just a little rude in my PERSONAL opinion. That being said it's all in context and I was not there.


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    #22112213 - 08/19/15 02:24 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

hey if they were will to pay for it i'd gladly take the advice for dental care.

pretty bad analogy, seeing as it is free to not eat and health care is not free.

although i am on your side of the argument that it is rude to point out ppl are fat.


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    #22112232 - 08/19/15 02:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Well at least the point came across bad analogy or not haha.


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    #22112471 - 08/19/15 03:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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    #22112523 - 08/19/15 03:25 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I wish I could be obese

Then I would have so many reserves which I could turn into muscle.

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    #22112542 - 08/19/15 03:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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    #22112744 - 08/19/15 04:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Maybe if large people weren't so self rightious about their obviously poor habits, there would be less of them. Unless something is wrong with yojr body, being fat shows toundont take the time to see what your body needs. It is a poor reflection om you and costs society. No, not in America. The poison has to kill you fast for it to be poison. In my experiance, getting healthier is pretty easy, if you are commited and research some


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    #22112768 - 08/19/15 04:10 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I believe Obesity is morally repugnant.


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    #22112786 - 08/19/15 04:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

You guys sound like the self righteous ones to me. "I don't like it therefore they're unhappy and need to change" :lolsy:


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    #22112789 - 08/19/15 04:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Maybe if large people weren't so self rightious about their obviously poor habits, there would be less of them. Unless something is wrong with yojr body, being fat shows toundont take the time to see what your body needs. It is a poor reflection om you and costs society. No, not in America. The poison has to kill you fast for it to be poison. In my experiance, getting healthier is pretty easy, if you are commited and research some




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    #22112846 - 08/19/15 04:22 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

What, typos aside, is wrong with my statement? I talk health alot with people. Americans are closed minded morons. We dont know what to eat. On TV when people try to get healthy it is all about eating things percieved as 'light', such as non red meat and raw veggies.
We dont like to excersize, which is probably the most difficult part of getting healthy. We also tend to think overexertion is a good thing.
Also, the whole thermodinamics-calorie stuff sounds like a bunch of pasted together shit by someone who doesnt know physics. Some Depac Chopra shit


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    #22112879 - 08/19/15 04:28 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I'll show you what's wrong with it.

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Maybe if large people weren't so self rightious about their obviously poor habits, there would be less of them. Unless something is wrong with yojr body, being fat shows toundont take the time to see what your body needs. It is a poor reflection om you and costs society. No, not in America. The poison has to kill you fast for it to be poison. In my experiance, getting healthier is pretty easy, if you are commited and research some




"Maybe if large people weren't so self rightious about their obviously poor habits, there would be less of them."

Apart from this being a self righteous statement in and of itself, you're lumping an entire type of person together to form an opinion, which doesn't address or even consider that maybe they're happy with the way they are.

" Unless something is wrong with yojr body, being fat shows toundont take the time to see what your body needs."

OR, maybe they're happy with the way they are, and don't care what they're body needs, the same way smokers, drinkers, and everyone else who likes to indulge in shit that isn't "healthy" for them, they enjoy it, and it's a personal choice.

"It is a poor reflection om you and costs society."

It's not a poor reflection, unless you forgot to put "IMO" at the start of that, and costs society? :lolsy: name something that people enjoy that doesn't, almost every single thing people do either does or will cost society at some point.

"In my experiance, getting healthier is pretty easy, if you are commited and research some"

I've known many people who dedicated themselves, and barely saw improvement. Apart from that, you are still speaking in a way that suggest this is what they want, unless you are implying it should be forced upon them, in which case I'd like to ask you about things you do in your life, so I can show you how it effects society or people in general, and then why you should be forced to not engage in it.


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    #22112896 - 08/19/15 04:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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    #22112973 - 08/19/15 04:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Oh no, I lumped an entire group of people together. Im practically a member the KKK now.

Yeah, people are happy being unhealthy. They are happy feeling like shit physically, emotionally since only people who are into fat people will fuck them, and knowing they are going to probably die younge.
Im only going on my experiance in a rather fat towm. I dont think people are happy so much as resigned

This isnt some grey issue. You either optemise your body and figure oit how to get where you feel and look how you want, or you baloon up.

Ot isnt my opinion. When younget fat, it looks like you dont give a shit.

You talk at me like Im a liberal or libertarian who cares a whole ton about what these fools think makes them happy. Chances are, if you are fat, you have been stealing from your future by indulging in shit for years. It is also likely rooted in parental failiurs for most.

'The happiness of this pizza now, os more important then my future later'

You bring up people who dedicated themse;ves and got no results. I doubt these are the majority. We are wired to gorge, mostly, and some of us are adapted to retain far better. Eat some real food and exersize. Maybe do a, gasp, fasting day once a week

Yeah, being fat isnt 'indulging in something unhealthy', itos the effect of having indjlged. I think smokers and some drinkers are pretty damn stupid for their choices. Smoking is so fucked. Cancer is so damn horrific. Smoking now days pretty much shows you are retarded.

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    #22112998 - 08/19/15 04:54 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Oh no, I lumped an entire group of people together. Im practically a member the KKK now.




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    #22113023 - 08/19/15 05:01 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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The term actually is "sizeist"


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    #22113041 - 08/19/15 05:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

that doesn't make sense. size is far to broad and doesn't specify fat at all.

i don't think he as a problem with people being extremely tall.

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    #22113044 - 08/19/15 05:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Aside from a few posters, I don't think most here hate people for being fat - we hate or are sad to see that self-destructive behavior is normalized, considered okay, and that it's pretty much sprung up out of the blue in the last few decades. I think self destructive behavior of all kinds that occur on a cultural scale should be taken seriously - and the fat acceptance movement has corrupted body acceptance, which was once a wonderful thing, and use it for harmful purposes.

At a glance it's reinforcing lies and myths and making it harder for people who want to lose weight to do it because so much misinformation is spread. Not only that, but practically the only thing they say is that fat women are beautiful goddesses, and men are obligated to find them attractive, the whole 'real women have curves' is hurtful to other body types, calling someone anorexic or prepubescent is hurtful - and more importantly, it's reinforcing, especially for girls, that physical beauty is what determines your worth.
Nevermind the people who constantly deny people suffer complications and ill health from obesity, and pretty much repeat over and over that they're not in control and they should give up.

It's a toxic movement. We should be teaching people that it's not okay to bully people for their appearance, and we should be teaching people the importance of self-growth and improvement, that they deserve to hold themselves to a higher standard, they are as worthy as anybody, and it is not hopeless. People don't like to confront their own flaws, most like to sweep it under a big old rug of insecurity and self-loathing, but I think we as a society need to be taught to be more objective and less emotional about our personal flaws(of all types), I admire anyone of any shape size and walk of life who takes a good hard look at themselves and works to improve what they don't like.

Addiction of all kinds are not blameless - but it doesn't discriminate against any walks of life and many fantastically wonderful people who have a lot to offer suffer from it, and people who are genetically predisposed to something like dopamine deficiency and chemical inbalances of all kinds are incredibly likely to try to self-medicate to make themselves feel better, a lot can overcome it, but when you add in environmental factors like being raised in a family that thinks it's totally normal to self-medicate with food to the point of serious and potentially lethal health issues it's easy to see why so many feel out of control.
We need to take a good hard look at our society and figure out how to reduce environmental triggers, and we need to take better care of our citizens(and selves) when it comes to mental health, because along with education about nutrition, I think a good chunk of obesity can be blamed on that.

And yeah, there are conditions where it is unfair to blame someone for obesity - but they are much fewer and farther between than people think and most people are not as out of control of their body as they think. People who really can't help themselves are different than someone with a slower metabolism - We're talking unexpressed or deleted chromosomes type of conditions, like prader willi.


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    #22113067 - 08/19/15 05:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yup, people shairing a common trait cant be put together anymore, even though it is a common, well understood trait that can easilly be changed with effort

The liberals think people might want to be fat and unhealthy though. Seems right to me. I enjoy the prospect of colon cancer too
The common way of living in America today is toxic
This free will hippie live and let live crap is unbearable. We are ignorant about health, and from many I talk to, the joy of eating shit is just to important.
I respect people for trying, but I really dont see many who are willing to change their life style. Give up soda? What will I drink?


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    #22113071 - 08/19/15 05:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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that doesn't make sense. size is far to broad and doesn't specify fat at all.

i don't think he as a problem with people being extremely tall.

although i guess most isms are like that.



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    #22113124 - 08/19/15 05:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I'm with you until you pulled the liberal card - I go left myself(further left than what's typical of the dems on some issues, but I get the importance of a free market and being cautious of government regulation...especially when it's the responsibility of the fucking shitshow over in D.C.), hippies and libs are generally quite health conscious..to the point where it's actually fucking annoying, and the red states generally(not always, think it's better outside the southeast) lead the nation in obesity stats.

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    #22113179 - 08/19/15 05:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Yup, people shairing a common trait cant be put together anymore, even though it is a common, well understood trait that can easilly be changed with effort

The liberals think people might want to be fat and unhealthy though. Seems right to me. I enjoy the prospect of colon cancer too
The common way of living in America today is toxic
This free will hippie live and let live crap is unbearable. We are ignorant about health, and from many I talk to, the joy of eating shit is just to important.
I respect people for trying, but I really dont see many who are willing to change their life style. Give up soda? What will I drink?




although your argument is entertaining... say people who enjoy being fat must also enjoy other things that MIGHT happen as a result of the life style.

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    #22113194 - 08/19/15 05:34 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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    #22113227 - 08/19/15 05:41 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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    #22113288 - 08/19/15 05:53 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Of course they enjoy aspects of their lifestyle, eating is pleasurable, social activity, cooking is a solid hobby and creative outlet - and it releases dopamine.

Trying to be social when you're very strict about what you'll eat whether it's veganism or a diet or whatever, is legitimately hard. You don't realize how much of your social life revolves around eating, especially decadent eating. A person exercising good moderation can eat out with friends, get together for BBQs, go out for drinks, and still stay slim, but they sure as shit are making up for it with the way they eat when not doing that stuff - it's so fucking hard to not consume sooo many calories when you're out drinking with friends on the weekend - a lot of people eat dinner before and the rest of us get shitfaced and eat a disgusting amount of food on our kitchen floor with our friends at 4am..and some crazies do both.

I like nights like that, I don't want to stop doing it right now, so I eat light those days or reduce my calorie intake by at least 1000 over the course of that week so I don't have to sacrifice too many calories the day of so when it's all said and done I can consume whatever I want and in the end it doesn't end up over or under the amount I need to maintain.

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    #22113316 - 08/19/15 05:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

its pretty easy to not consume that many calories when you go out, at least if your a guy. just go out with 20 bucks. you can pretty much guarantee that you will get full or almost drunk, but not both.


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    #22113662 - 08/19/15 07:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

There is a fairly easy way to lose fat and keep it off. I've said it many times and everyone ignores it especially the fat ones but i'll try again.

Simply quit eating addictive foods. The main addictive foods are high sugar foods followed by high starch foods that break down readily like bread and pasta. When people quit desserts, they go to bread, rolls, pizza, etc. Eat moderately of fatty foods, get exercise and eat lots of veggies and some fruit every day.

That's it, no starving, no hunger pains, eat as much good food as you like. If you are desperate enough to change your life you will do it.


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22113674 - 08/19/15 07:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I've known fat vegans who scarf quinoa instead of carbs. Condescending bullshit is not an effective weight loss pill


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    #22113679 - 08/19/15 07:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

In reality they are scarfing a lot more than quinoa. Probably lots of fatty vegan foods

I eat heaps of quinoa, rice, etc...Lost 20 pounds in the last 3 months. Winter weight gone and shredded again.


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    #22113683 - 08/19/15 07:20 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Try talking about something you have a clue about, since obviously you don't have one here. I did not say being vegan makes you thin or that quinoa makes you thin though its a good food. I said give up all addictive foods. It worked for me and for a lot of other people.

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>In reality they are scarfing a lot more than quinoa. Probably lots of fatty vegan foods

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    #22113686 - 08/19/15 07:20 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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    #22113694 - 08/19/15 07:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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    #22113711 - 08/19/15 07:25 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Stonehenge, I wasn't talking to you.  In fact, I almost never talk to you, so you should just disregard any post I make that isn't  specifically addressed to yourself by name.


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    #22113770 - 08/19/15 07:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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    #22113775 - 08/19/15 07:39 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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its pretty easy to not consume that many calories when you go out, at least if your a guy. just go out with 20 bucks. you can pretty much guarantee that you will get full or almost drunk, but not both.






It's not impossible or even that difficult if you're even a bit mindful, but it's still pretty hard to be aware of exactly how much you're eating, most restaurants turn meals into calorie bombs. Especially delicious calorie bombs, but unless you can get ahold of nutritional info then you either order with discretion(a salad, lean meat that's properly portioned/no sauce, etc) or you cut back a little earlier in the day so you can have a bit of leeway.

Most people don't have to pay that much attention to stuff, but before levothyroxine came into my life I was eating 1200-1300 calories to maintain my weight at it's worst, totally doable, but you've really got to pay attention and that's usually what people eat to lose weight in a reasonably rapid way unless they're like 5'0 and 100lbs.

Alcohol is really what kills you though. I love craft beer, and it's reasonable to assume they generally hover around 250kcal, so three would put me at 750 - that's more than half of what my daily intake was to maintain a 22bmi, which was 13 lbs heavier than I was before my thyroid went rogue until I finally felt miserable enough to see a doctor.


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    #22113790 - 08/19/15 07:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Talk about a condescending asshole...




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    #22113941 - 08/19/15 08:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Fat people should be required to go to fat camp like some drug addicts are required to go to rehab by the courts.


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    #22113948 - 08/19/15 08:18 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

You mean that everybody caught by the police in possession of fattening food should be forced to go to fat camp? I'm pretty sure that's what you mean.


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    #22114024 - 08/19/15 08:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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    #22114336 - 08/19/15 09:40 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

um, you guys obviously haven't heard of starvation mode and how it makes you fat. idk what was going on then, but starving doesn't lead to weight loss, that's a straight up fact, fat people were in concentration camps but the fat shaming media just doesn't like to bring it up.


people don't get that when you lose weight your body needs less food to maintain,
so whatever amount of calories made you lose before are probably enough to for weight loss to slow down
dramatically because you don't have as much of a deficit to help move things along. Hence, the term plateau.


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    #22114503 - 08/19/15 10:22 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

It isnt all about calories. You just need to gice your body some decent nuteients, get your fats in order, and excersize. Stay moving, aboid getting pulled into the chair or couch.


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    #22114534 - 08/19/15 10:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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um, you guys obviously haven't heard of starvation mode and how it makes you fat. idk what was going on then, but starving doesn't lead to weight loss, that's a straight up fact, fat people were in concentration camps but the fat shaming media just doesn't like to bring it up.


people don't get that when you lose weight your body needs less food to maintain,
so whatever amount of calories made you lose before are probably enough to for weight loss to slow down
dramatically because you don't have as much of a deficit to help move things along. Hence, the term plateau.




Are you saying that I should stop eating all together? Like absolutely no more food, EVER?









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    #22114783 - 08/19/15 11:32 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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It isnt all about calories. You just need to gice your body some decent nuteients, get your fats in order, and excersize. Stay moving, aboid getting pulled into the chair or couch.




Nutrients are important, but the law of thermodynamics literally dictates that it is in fact, all about calories when it comes to influencing one's weight in any way.
Yes, BMRs differ from person to person, but research shows that slow metabolisms are not nearly slow enough to account for the morbidly obese, let alone the prevalence of people here who transcend that and are actually defined as super morbidly obese. Slow metabolism may make you gain 25, maaaybe 30 pounds, but the caloric difference between a low metabolism and a normal one is not enough to make you severely obese. Your weight will stabilize when your intake matches your TDEE(total daily estimated expenditure), unless you're eating more than you need. Thyroid disorders are not nearly common enough to cause incredibly wide spread obesity - 4.6% of the population have an underactive thyroid, and while there are undiagnosed people out there, there are a lot of other symptoms that usually make people feel terrible enough to seek out doctors to figure out wtf is wrong.

There are certain, rare conditions where the person who has it truly is fucked from the get go and has very little chance of controlling their weight, but again, I'm not talking about someone with thyroid issues or hormone inbalances, I'm talking about people who literally are missing chromosomes or have non functioning ones(see; prader willi).

It's crazy how common it is for people to hold the belief that weight gain and weight loss can happen without adjusting your calorie intake. Nutrition is important, and junk food will often make someone hungrier because of the sugar and starches, and it will fuck up your blood sugar all ways to Sunday, but you could eat the worst junk food available all the time, and as long as you ate less than your TDEE, you will lose weight. Healthy? No. And someone who is losing weight on a long term diet of junk is probably malnourished to some extenT.

And once again, the laws of physics is what makes calories in/calories out a cold hard indisputable fact. Do some people have an easier time maintaing, losing, or gaining weight? Yeah. Do some people have a harder time do those? Yes. But that's not accountable for extreme obesity and it's sure as shit not accountable for how widespread severe obesity is here, and it is within your power to control your weight regardless - it's simple, not easy.

Again, the law of physics dictates this,
http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2008/10/13/obesity-and-diet-the-first-law-of-thermodynamics/

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um, you guys obviously haven't heard of starvation mode and how it makes you fat. idk what was going on then, but starving doesn't lead to weight loss, that's a straight up fact, fat people were in concentration camps but the fat shaming media just doesn't like to bring it up.


people don't get that when you lose weight your body needs less food to maintain,
so whatever amount of calories made you lose before are probably enough to for weight loss to slow down
dramatically because you don't have as much of a deficit to help move things along. Hence, the term plateau.




Are you saying that I should stop eating all together? Like absolutely no more food, EVER?









Im just fuckin around, some interesting stuff you said there







ya but only if you are committed to making sweet gainz and getting swole, otherwise not eating is gonna make you fat.


And thanks, nutrition interests me enough to read about it a bit in my spare time and it's been one of the most effective treatments of depression and bipolar disorder I've tried, including a whole array of meds(Now I take a combo of meds that work for me, and try to focus of using food to help my mood and overall wellbeing).


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    #22114960 - 08/20/15 12:18 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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thats complete bullshit tho, because you can switch to atkins, eat all the fucking food you want, and still lose weight.  They actually say right on the atkins diet thing you can eat as much as you want and its true.  if you cut your carbs to below 20-10 you enter ketosis and your body switches from carbs/sugar to fat for energy.  carbs also cause your body to hoard water weight as water is needed for insulin or some shit which is needed for breaking down carbs.

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    #22114987 - 08/20/15 12:25 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Fact people that are hopeless should maybe try stimulants as a last resort. I don't know one fat meth addict.


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22115006 - 08/20/15 12:31 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I've met a few. It definitely happens.


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    #22115022 - 08/20/15 12:39 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I've met a few. It definitely happens.




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    #22115026 - 08/20/15 12:41 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

His fat ass is driving up the cost of health care and if anyone should be pissed its you.  fucking glutton.  quit shoving food down your throat ya fat bastard.


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22115034 - 08/20/15 12:45 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I've met a few. It definitely happens.




Imagine them without the meth then. :canthelpbutlaugh:




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    #22115071 - 08/20/15 01:02 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Nutrients are important, but the law of thermodynamics literally dictates that it is in fact, all about calories when it comes to influencing one's weight in any way.




thats complete bullshit tho, because you can switch to atkins, eat all the fucking food you want, and still lose weight.  They actually say right on the atkins diet thing you can eat as much as you want and its true.  if you cut your carbs to below 20-10 you enter ketosis and your body switches from carbs/sugar to fat for energy.  carbs also cause your body to hoard water weight as water is needed for insulin or some shit which is needed for breaking down carbs.

i was 330lbs went on atkins, ate all the fucking food i wanted and still lost 30lbs my first month, it was likely all water weight but still




Low carb/atkins is one of the most successful and popular weight loss methods for a few reasons :
- increased fiber consumption if followed correctly.

- too many simple carbs/starches and too little protein wreak havoc on your blood sugar, aside for short bursts of energy carbs aren't long lasting stable sources of energy/fuel, and are not as efficient as protein and fat at satiating people's hunger.

- additionally, lean meat/protein is often not high calorie in and of itself, you can eat more food while consuming less calories and are much more likely to stay full. Weight loss is easiest at the weight you start the process at and your TDEE at that weight would allow you a good amount of calories for maintainence or losing, and when you're eating food that is more satiating, and your blood sugar is more stable, you get fuller quicker. The lower your weight gets, the less calories your body needs for your metabolic setpoint, and at that weight it's very normal for people to experience very rapid weight loss in the beginnings, and then find they have to adjust their diet to adapt to their body.

-Ketosis. The process is way too complex to get too indepth on but basically, carbs produce glucose which your body uses as energy - a portion of that is converted into glycogen(important for your cells, and muscles, and brain and stuff) and is stored in your liver and in your muscles. While glycogen levels remain stable in the liver, going low/no carb will cause your body to use the glycogen in your muscles as energy instead, this in turn increased the rate of fat oxidation/"Fat burning" and also helps manage insulin. Did you actually count calories on it? Did you first use an online calculator to figure out your BMR and TDEE, and then actually log and see what you were eating? Because I'd bet dollars to donuts that you were in fact eating at a deficit, but thanks to the magic of fat and protein, you were simply less hungry.

- Additionally, ketosis usually suppresses appetite, and it can and will act somewhat similar to a diuretic so you are right about water weight, but your chances of actual fat loss are greater with atkins and low carb diets. 

So yeah, I totally believe you lost lost a lot in a month eating what you wanted with atkins,the thing is that you wanted less, and your body was likely going through ketosis or starting to. Ketosis and appetite suppression would explain you not feeling hungry, too.


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: pirate-blues]
    #22115075 - 08/20/15 01:06 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

My only issue with fat people is the odor a lot of them have.


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    #22115078 - 08/20/15 01:09 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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His fat ass is driving up the cost of health care and if anyone should be pissed its you.  fucking glutton.  quit shoving food down your throat ya fat bastard.




aren't you also driving up healthcare by always needing free birth control and STD tests from clinics?


also, just because someones fat doesnt mean they constantly go to the doctor or abuse health care systems :lol:


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    #22115081 - 08/20/15 01:10 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

yes.


btw the secret to losing weight is simple.  EAT LESS MOVE MORE.  :cookiemonster:


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    #22115082 - 08/20/15 01:11 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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His fat ass is driving up the cost of health care and if anyone should be pissed its you.  fucking glutton.  quit shoving food down your throat ya fat bastard.




aren't you also driving up healthcare by always needing free birth control and STD tests from clinics?


also, just because someones fat doesnt mean they constantly go to the doctor or abuse health care systems :lol:




I consider obesity in the same league as shooting dope, especially when you are one of those people that needs a crane to take you out of your home.


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    #22115087 - 08/20/15 01:12 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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His fat ass is driving up the cost of health care and if anyone should be pissed its you.  fucking glutton.  quit shoving food down your throat ya fat bastard.




aren't you also driving up healthcare by always needing free birth control and STD tests from clinics?


also, just because someones fat doesnt mean they constantly go to the doctor or abuse health care systems :lol:




sounds like something a fat person would say.

I paid for those abortions with health insurance I have through my employer.  My std tests are all positive.  Also I do not go to the doctor.


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    #22115091 - 08/20/15 01:16 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I consider obesity in the same league as shooting dope, especially when you are one of those people that needs a crane to take you out of your home.




obesity is a really broad term though.  i weigh 220 (5'9-10) so i'm obese, but it wouldnt take a fucking crane to get me out of the house :facepalm: my 65 year old dad could drag me out ffs

i'd say obesity is more comparable to snorting dope, than shooting it.


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His fat ass is driving up the cost of health care and if anyone should be pissed its you.  fucking glutton.  quit shoving food down your throat ya fat bastard.




aren't you also driving up healthcare by always needing free birth control and STD tests from clinics?


also, just because someones fat doesnt mean they constantly go to the doctor or abuse health care systems :lol:




sounds like something a fat person would say.

I paid for those abortions with health insurance I have through my employer.  My std tests are all positive.  Also I do not go to the doctor.




yeah, i'm fat. its funny how angry it makes you

also, fat people have health insurence as well, so it doesnt matter if you have insurence or not. your still a burden on someone else because of how much of a slut you are


did it irritate you that i called you a slut? cause its really no different than calling a fat person fat


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    #22115093 - 08/20/15 01:17 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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His fat ass is driving up the cost of health care and if anyone should be pissed its you.  fucking glutton.  quit shoving food down your throat ya fat bastard.




aren't you also driving up healthcare by always needing free birth control and STD tests from clinics?


also, just because someones fat doesnt mean they constantly go to the doctor or abuse health care systems :lol:




I consider obesity in the same league as shooting dope, especially when you are one of those people that needs a crane to take you out of your home.



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    #22115095 - 08/20/15 01:19 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

im not angry at all, you obviously dont know me if you think that is my anger.

you sound mad tho and if i offended you i'm sorry.  im sure it isnt easy being overweight and eating is like drug addiction.


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    #22115099 - 08/20/15 01:21 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

i am mad. but i accept your sincere apology


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    #22115121 - 08/20/15 01:36 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

i am sorry gresh

I rarely say that because i never am, but i am :hug:


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    #22115131 - 08/20/15 01:42 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I consider myself lucky. I eat fast food a couple times a week usually and rarely do much of any excercise and my diet is shit. I am skinny as fuck tho.


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    #22115132 - 08/20/15 01:43 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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    #22115372 - 08/20/15 05:07 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Nutrients are important, but the law of thermodynamics literally dictates that it is in fact, all about calories when it comes to influencing one's weight in any way.




thats complete bullshit tho, because you can switch to atkins, eat all the fucking food you want, and still lose weight.  They actually say right on the atkins diet thing you can eat as much as you want and its true.  if you cut your carbs to below 20-10 you enter ketosis and your body switches from carbs/sugar to fat for energy.  carbs also cause your body to hoard water weight as water is needed for insulin or some shit which is needed for breaking down carbs.

i was 330lbs went on atkins, ate all the fucking food i wanted and still lost 30lbs my first month, it was likely all water weight but still




Low carb/atkins is one of the most successful and popular weight loss methods for a few reasons :
- increased fiber consumption if followed correctly.

- too many simple carbs/starches and too little protein wreak havoc on your blood sugar, aside for short bursts of energy carbs aren't long lasting stable sources of energy/fuel, and are not as efficient as protein and fat at satiating people's hunger.

- additionally, lean meat/protein is often not high calorie in and of itself, you can eat more food while consuming less calories and are much more likely to stay full. Weight loss is easiest at the weight you start the process at and your TDEE at that weight would allow you a good amount of calories for maintainence or losing, and when you're eating food that is more satiating, and your blood sugar is more stable, you get fuller quicker. The lower your weight gets, the less calories your body needs for your metabolic setpoint, and at that weight it's very normal for people to experience very rapid weight loss in the beginnings, and then find they have to adjust their diet to adapt to their body.

-Ketosis. The process is way too complex to get too indepth on but basically, carbs produce glucose which your body uses as energy - a portion of that is converted into glycogen(important for your cells, and muscles, and brain and stuff) and is stored in your liver and in your muscles. While glycogen levels remain stable in the liver, going low/no carb will cause your body to use the glycogen in your muscles as energy instead, this in turn increased the rate of fat oxidation/"Fat burning" and also helps manage insulin. Did you actually count calories on it? Did you first use an online calculator to figure out your BMR and TDEE, and then actually log and see what you were eating? Because I'd bet dollars to donuts that you were in fact eating at a deficit, but thanks to the magic of fat and protein, you were simply less hungry.

- Additionally, ketosis usually suppresses appetite, and it can and will act somewhat similar to a diuretic so you are right about water weight, but your chances of actual fat loss are greater with atkins and low carb diets. 

So yeah, I totally believe you lost lost a lot in a month eating what you wanted with atkins,the thing is that you wanted less, and your body was likely going through ketosis or starting to. Ketosis and appetite suppression would explain you not feeling hungry, too.




naw i didn't want less, i actually wanted more because i had cravings for all the old shit i used to eat.  so to avoid breaking the diet id just stuff my face with shit that i could have on atkins.  Quiet a few things on atkins are high in cals like tbone steaks which i ate on a daily basis.  i tried to avoid hamburgers and processed meats best i could but its actually really hard to get away from that shit.  Thats why i had to eat so many steaks because thats litterally just about the only thing thats not processed. 

last i looked basically 1 high cal steak takes you over the recommended cals per day, but that might be for a low cal diet but thats basically what your suggesting so same thing.  which  i think was like 1k calz or 1200 maybe 1500 tops?  and surprizingly some steaks are right around 1k.  so needless to say i was double or tripple the recommended calz easily

1 example is cheese sticks for snacks, id have 6 of them which is 600 calz......so yah add in a meal or 2 more and the calz in my drinks and you can kiss the low cal shit goodbye


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    #22115438 - 08/20/15 05:43 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

1200-1300 calories would be way, way WAY lower than you would ever need to eat at a starting weight of 300 lbs to lose weight - and lose it pretty rapidly and fast, nonetheless.

1200 calories is what I ate when my BMR was at it's absolute lowest, my thyroid is essentially shut down and is possibly going to be surgically removed in the future, I'm 5'5 and 130lbs, and 1200 calories is way way too low for the TDEE of someone my size and it very abnormal - hence people go to doctors, have blood and antibody tests done, and end up on medication for the rest of their lives, case and point : me.


I've got to get moving this morning, so I am not going to go into as much detail as I'd like, but I've given you nothing but cold hard, researched, facts and information, and you can take it or leave it but not bothering to actually educate yourself about this stuff is the only thing that will actually guarantee that you won't be successful trying to lose weight.


You have just all but stated your ignorance about this subject and of caloric needs and the role they play, I've been repeating over and over and over again that people need to calculate their Total Daily Estimated Expenditure(aka TDEE). How the fuck can you draw conclusions about weight loss if you don't even know how much your body(based on size, gender, and age and activity level) needs simply to maintain your weight. No gain, no loss. It takes five fucking seconds to google TDEE calculator and type in your stats.
Weight loss is purely dependent on a caloric deficit, larger people require more food to maintain their weight and vice versa for smaller people, it differs from one individual to the other - but no matter who you look at, if they eat lower than they're TDEE they will lose weight, how fast they lose it is determined but what their calorie deficit is.

Seriously, this is exact kind of ignorance I've been talking about constantly in this thread, so many people have no idea about even the basics of nutrition and how your body processes and digests and uses food, and then they throw up their hands and deny everything despite scientific research, societal trends, and again, the fucking laws of thermodynamics(aka undisputed law of nature).


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    #22115481 - 08/20/15 06:08 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Im in a bit of a hurry thia morning, so I didnt read it yet. I dont see a rule that we have to use every calorie we eat. Using psysics for this seems like some depac chopera shit. Calories are a strange measure for what food is used for. It is a measure of energy, and tells very little about what is chemically going on. Does our body have to use every calorie? Camt we shot some out?


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    #22115509 - 08/20/15 06:21 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I eat like shit, and although I exercise a lot at work, I rarely do cardio or go to the gym.

I'm fit as a motherfucker, but I still rail on fat people for their shitty diets and shitty exercise agenda.

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    #22115946 - 08/20/15 09:40 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Im in a bit of a hurry thia morning, so I didnt read it yet. I dont see a rule that we have to use every calorie we eat. Using psysics for this seems like some depac chopera shit. Calories are a strange measure for what food is used for. It is a measure of energy, and tells very little about what is chemically going on. Does our body have to use every calorie? Camt we shot some out?




I've never been clear on whether calories exclusively measures energy useable by our metabolism or not. For example, does fiber count? Its chemical bonds contain energy that is released when you physically burn it with fire, but our body doesn't consume calories using fire and fiber is excreted with its chemical bonds intact. In fact I'm pretty sure that digesting (or not digesting, as the case may be) fiber actually burns calories.

Oh, and for anybody who wants to improve their diet without thinking too much, there's your hot tip-- get tons of fiber. Bam. Fills you up and stems your appetite, plus it helps ya poop good. Win-win.


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    #22116056 - 08/20/15 10:13 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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1200-1300 calories would be way, way WAY lower than you would ever need to eat at a starting weight of 300 lbs to lose weight - and lose it pretty rapidly and fast, nonetheless.

1200 calories is what I ate when my BMR was at it's absolute lowest, my thyroid is essentially shut down and is possibly going to be surgically removed in the future, I'm 5'5 and 130lbs, and 1200 calories is way way too low for the TDEE of someone my size and it very abnormal - hence people go to doctors, have blood and antibody tests done, and end up on medication for the rest of their lives, case and point : me.


I've got to get moving this morning, so I am not going to go into as much detail as I'd like, but I've given you nothing but cold hard, researched, facts and information, and you can take it or leave it but not bothering to actually educate yourself about this stuff is the only thing that will actually guarantee that you won't be successful trying to lose weight.


You have just all but stated your ignorance about this subject and of caloric needs and the role they play, I've been repeating over and over and over again that people need to calculate their Total Daily Estimated Expenditure(aka TDEE). How the fuck can you draw conclusions about weight loss if you don't even know how much your body(based on size, gender, and age and activity level) needs simply to maintain your weight. No gain, no loss. It takes five fucking seconds to google TDEE calculator and type in your stats.
Weight loss is purely dependent on a caloric deficit, larger people require more food to maintain their weight and vice versa for smaller people, it differs from one individual to the other - but no matter who you look at, if they eat lower than they're TDEE they will lose weight, how fast they lose it is determined but what their calorie deficit is.

Seriously, this is exact kind of ignorance I've been talking about constantly in this thread, so many people have no idea about even the basics of nutrition and how your body processes and digests and uses food, and then they throw up their hands and deny everything despite scientific research, societal trends, and again, the fucking laws of thermodynamics(aka undisputed law of nature).




i said 1200 cals for 1 steak bro thats not even counting the sides, other meals, snacks :facepalm:


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    #22116087 - 08/20/15 10:21 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

also like i said that number is of a typical low cal diet which was what you were suggesting

http://www.webmd.com/diet/low-calorie-diets

they even say as low as 800 cal, i seen you write that shit before about losing weight is only about low cals, you don't know what your talking about and you sir are the one who should stop spewing wrong info around.  i proved you wrong, it's not just about cals. and when you were proven wrong, now you're trying to say i needed more cals?  do you even know how to argue your own side of the debate?


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    #22116375 - 08/20/15 11:54 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

OP healthy sees a person who maybe no one helps or has no idea about proper eating and to a healthy person someone that big would look like a stormcloud.

the mind of society would rebuke OP effort.

the way work is now adays you have to really accept that its a machine and when you do you'll get it and you'll see that individual wasn't the target and that it was your mistake to approach the individual and if you had the idea to  insulate the problem with your effort for the sake of giving it perspiration, you would approach the whole. You wouldnt have been made embarrased equally as the 100 gallon barrel looking guy, and instead been flamed all the same in youtube comments for having tried to tackle a "large" issue.

Grassfed butter.


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: TravelerOfSorts]
    #22117610 - 08/20/15 05:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I agree,fiber is amazing. Been butingthese organic cans of chilli beans, since I do eat alot of cheese and peanut butter. Fiber feeda good gut bacteria and helps you produce mucen. The last Rohnda Patric episode of Joe Rogan had alot about that.


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    #22118367 - 08/20/15 08:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I'm pretty tired of all these savages with no sigs or avatars.

Only koraks is allowed to do that, everybody else needs a quick visual ID that I don't have to zoom in to read.


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    #22118395 - 08/20/15 08:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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    #22124200 - 08/21/15 07:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
Only koraks is allowed to do that, everybody else needs a quick visual ID that I don't have to zoom in to read.





Fully agree :yesnod:

Funny that Koraks is the only one I also remember without a ava/sig :lol:


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