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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: SurReality]
    #22113071 - 08/19/15 05:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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that doesn't make sense. size is far to broad and doesn't specify fat at all.

i don't think he as a problem with people being extremely tall.

although i guess most isms are like that.



Discrimination against tall people is another form of sizeism, I believe


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #22113124 - 08/19/15 05:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I'm with you until you pulled the liberal card - I go left myself(further left than what's typical of the dems on some issues, but I get the importance of a free market and being cautious of government regulation...especially when it's the responsibility of the fucking shitshow over in D.C.), hippies and libs are generally quite health conscious..to the point where it's actually fucking annoying, and the red states generally(not always, think it's better outside the southeast) lead the nation in obesity stats.

But as a nation our shits all fucked up, so it's pointless to get into the same stupid red vs blue crap that never actually helps anything or leads to compromise.


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #22113179 - 08/19/15 05:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Yup, people shairing a common trait cant be put together anymore, even though it is a common, well understood trait that can easilly be changed with effort

The liberals think people might want to be fat and unhealthy though. Seems right to me. I enjoy the prospect of colon cancer too
The common way of living in America today is toxic
This free will hippie live and let live crap is unbearable. We are ignorant about health, and from many I talk to, the joy of eating shit is just to important.
I respect people for trying, but I really dont see many who are willing to change their life style. Give up soda? What will I drink?




although your argument is entertaining... say people who enjoy being fat must also enjoy other things that MIGHT happen as a result of the life style.

i enjoy smoking doesn't mean i enjoy emphysema that i don't even have.


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: SurReality]
    #22113194 - 08/19/15 05:34 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:heart: The joy of eating :chef:


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: Beanhead]
    #22113227 - 08/19/15 05:41 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

That is true. My argument is flawed.


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: Beanhead]
    #22113288 - 08/19/15 05:53 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Of course they enjoy aspects of their lifestyle, eating is pleasurable, social activity, cooking is a solid hobby and creative outlet - and it releases dopamine.

Trying to be social when you're very strict about what you'll eat whether it's veganism or a diet or whatever, is legitimately hard. You don't realize how much of your social life revolves around eating, especially decadent eating. A person exercising good moderation can eat out with friends, get together for BBQs, go out for drinks, and still stay slim, but they sure as shit are making up for it with the way they eat when not doing that stuff - it's so fucking hard to not consume sooo many calories when you're out drinking with friends on the weekend - a lot of people eat dinner before and the rest of us get shitfaced and eat a disgusting amount of food on our kitchen floor with our friends at 4am..and some crazies do both.

I like nights like that, I don't want to stop doing it right now, so I eat light those days or reduce my calorie intake by at least 1000 over the course of that week so I don't have to sacrifice too many calories the day of so when it's all said and done I can consume whatever I want and in the end it doesn't end up over or under the amount I need to maintain.

Of course I break that rule sometimes on a drunken whim, but that's life sometimes, poor decisions, regret, and hangovers.


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: pirate-blues]
    #22113316 - 08/19/15 05:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

its pretty easy to not consume that many calories when you go out, at least if your a guy. just go out with 20 bucks. you can pretty much guarantee that you will get full or almost drunk, but not both.


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: SurReality]
    #22113662 - 08/19/15 07:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

There is a fairly easy way to lose fat and keep it off. I've said it many times and everyone ignores it especially the fat ones but i'll try again.

Simply quit eating addictive foods. The main addictive foods are high sugar foods followed by high starch foods that break down readily like bread and pasta. When people quit desserts, they go to bread, rolls, pizza, etc. Eat moderately of fatty foods, get exercise and eat lots of veggies and some fruit every day.

That's it, no starving, no hunger pains, eat as much good food as you like. If you are desperate enough to change your life you will do it.


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22113674 - 08/19/15 07:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I've known fat vegans who scarf quinoa instead of carbs. Condescending bullshit is not an effective weight loss pill


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #22113679 - 08/19/15 07:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

In reality they are scarfing a lot more than quinoa. Probably lots of fatty vegan foods

I eat heaps of quinoa, rice, etc...Lost 20 pounds in the last 3 months. Winter weight gone and shredded again.


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #22113683 - 08/19/15 07:20 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Try talking about something you have a clue about, since obviously you don't have one here. I did not say being vegan makes you thin or that quinoa makes you thin though its a good food. I said give up all addictive foods. It worked for me and for a lot of other people.

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>In reality they are scarfing a lot more than quinoa. Probably lots of fatty vegan foods

Exactly, and probably a lot of sweets too.


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: RanOutOfWeed]
    #22113686 - 08/19/15 07:20 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Just in time for winter. Enjoy that yo-yo lifestyle


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #22113694 - 08/19/15 07:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Stay on a diet of good food and no yo yo.


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22113711 - 08/19/15 07:25 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Stonehenge, I wasn't talking to you.  In fact, I almost never talk to you, so you should just disregard any post I make that isn't  specifically addressed to yourself by name.


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #22113770 - 08/19/15 07:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: SurReality]
    #22113775 - 08/19/15 07:39 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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its pretty easy to not consume that many calories when you go out, at least if your a guy. just go out with 20 bucks. you can pretty much guarantee that you will get full or almost drunk, but not both.






It's not impossible or even that difficult if you're even a bit mindful, but it's still pretty hard to be aware of exactly how much you're eating, most restaurants turn meals into calorie bombs. Especially delicious calorie bombs, but unless you can get ahold of nutritional info then you either order with discretion(a salad, lean meat that's properly portioned/no sauce, etc) or you cut back a little earlier in the day so you can have a bit of leeway.

Most people don't have to pay that much attention to stuff, but before levothyroxine came into my life I was eating 1200-1300 calories to maintain my weight at it's worst, totally doable, but you've really got to pay attention and that's usually what people eat to lose weight in a reasonably rapid way unless they're like 5'0 and 100lbs.

Alcohol is really what kills you though. I love craft beer, and it's reasonable to assume they generally hover around 250kcal, so three would put me at 750 - that's more than half of what my daily intake was to maintain a 22bmi, which was 13 lbs heavier than I was before my thyroid went rogue until I finally felt miserable enough to see a doctor.


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22113790 - 08/19/15 07:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Talk about a condescending asshole...




Did you just call me an asshole, Stonehenge?


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #22113928 - 08/19/15 08:14 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I did not give you permission to speak to me.


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22113940 - 08/19/15 08:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I did not give you permission to speak to me.



I don't need it :lolsy:


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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22113941 - 08/19/15 08:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Fat people should be required to go to fat camp like some drug addicts are required to go to rehab by the courts.


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