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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: Chuckfinely]
#22110465 - 08/19/15 10:04 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Fat tax :strokebread:
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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: Cj-B]
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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: Chuckfinely]
#22110486 - 08/19/15 10:06 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Seeing very obese kids breaks my heart, sometimes you come across whole families who are super morbidly obese, and it really must suck to grow up being taught or even encouraged to eat like that - I've known a few people who grew up like that and when they finally decided to lose weight, their family gave them so much shit, trying to tempt or guilt them into their previous habits, telling them they're not healthy or too skinny when they're still obese because their body image is distorted and being 100lbs over weight has been normalized to them.
With kids, no one is at fault but their parents, and they are endangering the welfare of their child, and are teaching them poor habits and setting them up for possibly a lifelong struggle.
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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: SurReality]
#22110488 - 08/19/15 10:06 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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how about those skinny dudes with no life that randomly walk up to fat strangers and act like their opinion matters and they are better than you
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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: pirate-blues]
#22110490 - 08/19/15 10:06 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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pirate-blues said: as long as he's not bullying someone because of their weight, it's just an opinion.
He is. he's pushing the guy into losing weight and getting recorded because hes allegedly so extrordinarily fat.
That IS bullying. Body shaming.
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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: Chuckfinely]
#22110501 - 08/19/15 10:08 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Chuckfinely said: What about the extra health care costs associated with being overweight that i end up paying for through higher premiums/increased treatment cost?
You should have to pay more at the hospital/doctor/pharmacy if youre obese. I shouldnt have to pay for your fatness.
And i cannot stand when my doctor walks in and he/she is like 300lbs. Like really....youre going to give me medical advice?
I just dont get it. I mean im not small(6'1" 190) but i run every day and dont over do it on the sweets. If i ever got that big i wouldnt be able to look in the mirror and would immediately switch to only eating salads and hitting the gym twice a day Im not trying to minimize the plight of fatty, losing weight is difficult, but it is not impossible. Ive spent the past couple months losing 30lbs so i could back to 190, and im still trying to lose 15 more. If someone who loves to cook and is as lazy as i am can lose weight, anyone can.
The only ones i feel bad for are the kids. When i go run at the beach or park and 3/4 of the kids i see under 13 are either waddling or almost rolling over to the picnic table for another hotdog it astounds me. How could any parent do that to their kid? For the most part the kid is too young to know any better so only the parents are to blame and in my mind is coming pretty close to abuse.
Why do people not understand that it is not oke to be so large? Do they not realize how crazy good you can feel with even a halfway decent diet and minimal exercise? I cant put into words how gross/self conscious/low energy i felt only 30lbs ago, let alone how bad it must feel to be really overweight. That alone should be more than enough motivation for any reasonably sane individual
meh, i think it makes more sense to just pay your own bill. some people who are fat might actually be perfectly healthy or at least not use any more healthcare than other healthy people.
if you think people who use more taxes ought to pay higher taxes, why not say to hell with what is paid for by taxes in the first place and have everyone pay their own bills? i mean there are still CHARITABLE organizations that give everyone equal help with no discrimination (ie food banks) why can't the same idea work with health?
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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22110508 - 08/19/15 10:11 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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makaveli8x8 said: how about those skinny dudes with no life that randomly walk up to fat strangers and act like their opinion matters and they are better than you
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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: Chuckfinely]
#22110512 - 08/19/15 10:12 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Chuckfinely said: What about the extra health care costs associated with being overweight that i end up paying for through higher premiums/increased treatment cost?
You should have to pay more at the hospital/doctor/pharmacy if youre obese. I shouldnt have to pay for your fatness.
And i cannot stand when my doctor walks in and he/she is like 300lbs. Like really....youre going to give me medical advice?
I just dont get it. I mean im not small(6'1" 190) but i run every day and dont over do it on the sweets. If i ever got that big i wouldnt be able to look in the mirror and would immediately switch to only eating salads and hitting the gym twice a day Im not trying to minimize the plight of fatty, losing weight is difficult, but it is not impossible. Ive spent the past couple months losing 30lbs so i could back to 190, and im still trying to lose 15 more. If someone who loves to cook and is as lazy as i am can lose weight, anyone can.
The only ones i feel bad for are the kids. When i go run at the beach or park and 3/4 of the kids i see under 13 are either waddling or almost rolling over to the picnic table for another hotdog it astounds me. How could any parent do that to their kid? For the most part the kid is too young to know any better so only the parents are to blame and in my mind is coming pretty close to abuse.
Why do people not understand that it is not oke to be so large? Do they not realize how crazy good you can feel with even a halfway decent diet and minimal exercise? I cant put into words how gross/self conscious/low energy i felt only 30lbs ago, let alone how bad it must feel to be really overweight. That alone should be more than enough motivation for any reasonably sane individual
You should tell that the next time you're at your doctor.
you're fat you must be bad at discerning whether I have cancer or not.
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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: SurReality]
#22110513 - 08/19/15 10:12 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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SurReality said: seriously walking in to a grocery store and you're bitching about fat people??? what about bitching about the fucking parents in a grocery store, or how about people who just stand and talk to someone they know and just ran into and give no room for other people who are actually there to buy groceries???
How about walking into a grocery store and not bitching about anything do you people really go around looking at people thinking "look at that fat ass" or "Look at that shitty parent with thier bratty child" seriously?
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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: Asante]
#22110532 - 08/19/15 10:17 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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pirate-blues said: as long as he's not bullying someone because of their weight, it's just an opinion.
He is. he's pushing the guy into losing weight and getting recorded because hes allegedly so extrordinarily fat.
That IS bullying. Body shaming.
I was referencing one of Patlal's posts but I forgot to quote it, and didn't look at who you were replying too - woops! And I agree. I think people who give unsolicited advice or stick there noses in other people's business are annoying at best, if it's a close friend or family who you're genuinely concerned about, it's one thing to sit down and talk to them and try to team up with them to be healthier or something. If I was worried about someone I cared about I would try to be as much of a positive influence as I could and try and help them as much as they'd accept. Sometimes people don't want it, and that's up to them, but that's the only case where I would confront someone's lifestyle choice.
Sometimes fatshaming does persuade people to lose weight which I guess is why some people think the end justifies the means, but it also can hurt someone's self-worth enough and cause them to regress and have no motivation to change because they've been conditioned to devalue themselves to the point of severe depression. I agree that it's either very cruel or very ignorant to do that to someone.
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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
#22110535 - 08/19/15 10:17 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Lol. The funny thing is you're probably paying for his food as well. Dumb fuck is prolly on foodstamps or some other government program that pays him to sit on his ass because being fat is a disability now.
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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
#22110541 - 08/19/15 10:19 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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yah so whats the OP's response to loud annoying kids at the store? does he go up to them and tell them how to behave? does he tell their parents they are so bad at parenting that they should take a obedience class and have it recorded and documented?
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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
#22110548 - 08/19/15 10:21 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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lol yea at least in amusement, if you can't function in society in without slowing down everyone around beyond what is necessary to exist then your an idiot with low self-awareness. and on a bad day it can be pretty annoying.
my point is the fat people don't physically disrupt the flow of traffic. people who are completely unaware of themselves and other people around, actually has a negative effect on people completely their shopping and getting out of the store.
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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: Asante]
#22110551 - 08/19/15 10:22 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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pirate-blues said: as long as he's not bullying someone because of their weight, it's just an opinion.
He is. he's pushing the guy into losing weight and getting recorded because hes allegedly so extrordinarily fat.
That IS bullying. Body shaming.
I have a pool billiards teammate (age 70) that is a little overweight but does try to eat well and studies nutrition, ect.
One day we were playing at the pool hall and he noticed a very over weight man with 2 children, he went up to the guy and said he has some very good DVD's in his car that help people who are overweight and he was willing to let him have it for free, they guy refused.
He wasn't trying to shame the man, he was just talking to him about how he had to deal with losing weight and these DVD videos really helped him out, but again he was getting in someone's personal business.
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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: SurReality]
#22110557 - 08/19/15 10:22 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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SurReality said: meh, i think it makes more sense to just pay your own bill. some people who are fat might actually be perfectly healthy or at least not use any more healthcare than other healthy people.
if you think people who use more taxes ought to pay higher taxes, why not say to hell with what is paid for by taxes in the first place and have everyone pay their own bills? i mean there are still CHARITABLE organizations that give everyone equal help with no discrimination (ie food banks) why can't the same idea work with health?
Let's begin with old people and the disabled. Same logic. Case in point, no one other than the person himself/herself knows why the fuck they're fat. People with down syndrome are statistically more overweight than the general population. Getting into social Darwinistic dreams about taxes we should just execute them.
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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] 1
#22110563 - 08/19/15 10:23 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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SurReality said: seriously walking in to a grocery store and you're bitching about fat people??? what about bitching about the fucking parents in a grocery store, or how about people who just stand and talk to someone they know and just ran into and give no room for other people who are actually there to buy groceries???
How about walking into a grocery store and not bitching about anything do you people really go around looking at people thinking "look at that fat ass" or "Look at that shitty parent with thier bratty child" seriously?
uh, objection to that last thing. I was at the doctors office recently when some woman came in with her kid(probably 4-5) downing this massive sugary slushie, and he was just going crazy. She was talking to the receptionist because they knew eachother, and this kid was just going completely nuts - at first I was just like 'holy fuck, that is a lot of sugar for a kid', and me and this old guy just silently tolerated it not wanting to really interact with anyone - but then he got up on top of a fucking glass table. The poor guy ended up having to basically babysit this kid while his mom payed 0 attention so this kid wouldn't hurt himself.
I will silently judge those people with all my might while simultaneously being too chicken to speak up.
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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
#22110566 - 08/19/15 10:24 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I.....I just can't handle this thread anymore, the fact that quite a few people have used that tax argument when that could be applied to anything even shit we all choose to do.....live and let live, and realize your vices undoubtedly effect other people too
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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: bukkake]
#22110568 - 08/19/15 10:24 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22110571 - 08/19/15 10:25 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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makaveli8x8 said: yah so whats the OP's response to loud annoying kids at the store? does he go up to them and tell them how to behave? does he tell their parents they are so bad at parenting that they should take a obedience class and have it recorded and documented?
i don't do this (i know your asking about OP)
but if i see or heard about someone doing it, i would actually have a level of respect for shaming people who parent badly. but fat shaming is i don't totally agree with.
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Re: Why Do I Have To Act Like Obese People Are Normal? [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
#22110574 - 08/19/15 10:26 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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An odd aspect of obesity is that you can actually eat your way into long term disability and dependence. It your obesity prevents you from getting a job and a doctor calls it a long term health problem, you could get government money for a long time.
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