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Giftofdeprivation
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SGFC vs. Mono vs.? *DELETED*
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Post deleted by GiftofdeprivationReason for deletion: Not relevant to this website.
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Edited by Giftofdeprivation (08/18/15 07:26 PM)
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Machiavelliavore
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I'm also of the opinion that a SGFC is not a good starting unit. It's expensive, takes some time and money to make, and is prone to user error (OCD overmisting, scared undermisting.)
Invitro teks are a good way to start. The reason monos aren't typically recommended is not due the the FC design itself, but the substrate it houses. Since grain prep is required for monos, and all the substrate it mixed together, it's all the eggs in one basket. I've heard a lot of TC's say they really like spawned PF cakes in a minimono though.
Personally I think invitro or chucking cakes in an unmodified tote is the way to go for new growers. It doesn't help that anyone who posts about fruiting cakes in stuff other than an SGFC typically gets their head bitten off if they post here. Boddhi has a thread where he shows just fruiting cakes with sandwich bags over them.
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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister. I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave. I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent. Triggered yet? Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."
No, this does not look right...
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Giftofdeprivation
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And so many people get too creative with the hole placement!
I am using PF jars to spawn my mono now (first time, we'll see). I agree with the eggs thing. For that reason, I'm strongly thinking of using one or two of the jars as cakes, just in case.
Dude, do you have a link for that thread, that's the exact kind of creativity I'd like to look into!!!
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cronicr



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mono's are too easy and ya may not laern as much as ya want, a sgffc will teach ya everything..not sure why you are talking markets here...we don't sell drugs
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Giftofdeprivation
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Re: SGFC vs. Mono vs.? [Re: cronicr]
#22108333 - 08/18/15 07:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Very good point, man, but does anyone grow?
I'm just saying that change comes from exposure and the more available it is to the world's population, the more demand for research there will be.
I see what you are saying though, don't rock the boat and it won't tip. Don't blow shit up. Weed wouldn't be legal otherwise though...
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Edited by Giftofdeprivation (08/18/15 07:59 PM)
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MajickMuffin
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Giftofdeprivation said: Very good point, man, but does anyone grow?
I'm just saying that change comes from exposure and the more available it is to the world's population, the more demand for research there will be.
I see what you are saying though, don't rock the boat and it won't tip. Don't blow shit up. Weed wouldn't be legal otherwise though...
Weed still isnt legal man
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Giftofdeprivation
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Maybe not where you are.
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cronicr



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Giftofdeprivation said: Post deleted by Giftofdeprivation<p>Reason for deletion: Not relevant to this website.
fix that shit...read the rules
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MajickMuffin
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Giftofdeprivation said: Maybe not where you are.

It would be more 'legit' to say weed is still illegal rather than legal, its only legal in like 4 or 5 US states compared to 50.
So for your reference to saying, "Weed wouldn't be legal otherwise though..." makes no sense. Thats all im saying.
Mushroom growers dont get any heat unless their growing massive amounts and selling it, because none of them cause any trouble.
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cronicr



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i'll be back in 5
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The maintenance of a SGFC forces you to examine and monitor your grow more often than a mono, which gets you more in tune with what's going on.
If you don't know what a healthy substrate, myco network, or mushroom looks like, then a mono can be a higher risk for an "all or nothing" endeavor.
Often, when beginners get ahead or behind on misting cakes in a SGFC, it isn't hard to correct because of the frequent checking; problems are often caught early enough to fix. A mono can get out of control fast, especially if drying too much when trying to fruit and only checking every day or so. Sometimes, FAE or moisture problems can be a little trickier to correct in a mono and it really helps to know what things are supposed to look like so you can make adjustments as soon as you can. This is the same speech I give about greenhouses.
If you start with a mono, you should be checking it pretty regularly to see what's going on, at least 3-4 times a day until you get some grows under your belt.
In the end, you have to grow your own grow and do what feels right for you. There is certainly no real reason you have to start with cakes in a SGFC, But, I encourage it to a degree.
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Giftofdeprivation
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You're right, and there's no reason anyone here needs to incur that kind of heat. That is not what this place is about. It's about the friendly exchange of information and hanging out...
Locally to me, there were many pioneers that had smuggled in copious amounts of weed, or strong campaigners who had advocated for more weed to the PNW than anywhere else. Mainly, it was more available from Canada, but the culture blew up because of factors like these... I was wondering why this culture doesn't blow up more and more here, but now regret my line of reasoning through this medium. The market was but one facet of what I was considering and legality was not, because I was merely postulating from the comfort of my armchair here...
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MajickMuffin
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Giftofdeprivation said: You're right, and there's no reason anyone here needs to incur that kind of heat. That is not what this place is about. It's about the friendly exchange of information and hanging out...
Locally to me, there were many pioneers that had smuggled in copious amounts of weed, or strong campaigners who had advocated for more weed to the PNW than anywhere else. Mainly, it was more available from Canada, but the culture blew up because of factors like these... I was wondering why this culture doesn't blow up more and more here, but now regret my line of reasoning through this medium. The market was but one facet of what I was considering and legality was not, because I was merely postulating from the comfort of my armchair here...

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