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Re: Reading books is easier than I thought [Re: Gottaloveacid]
#22108437 - 08/18/15 08:24 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Gottaloveacid said: I have read a few easier novels but when they start using strange vocabulary and small print I cannot read it. I was NEVER able to comprehend shakespear when reading it, I had to watch it for it to make sense.
I had to read King Lear twice and watch the movie before I felt I was getting a grasp of it and I like to think I am a decent reader. The Shakespeare I read in high school I got very little out of it as I did not work over it at all.
A Midsummer Night's Dream might be an easier go; more light-hearted, playful.
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Re: Reading books is easier than I thought [Re: WScott]
#22108463 - 08/18/15 08:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I barely passed AP Lit this year. I was so lazy and the books we read were dry as fuck. Passage to India, Solomon's Song, The Awakening, Their Eyes were Watching God. All shitty ass dry books that had me bored out of my mind, I didn't read any of them and just spark noted everything and barely passed with a EEB. I love reading, I could read The Spirit Molecule or The Catcher in the Rye multiple times because those books are interesting and have interesting material and I enjoy the dialogue and the overall pace and reading of it but I cant stand the god damn books we read this year in AP Lit. My teacher was this annoying so called hippie lady who acted like a hippie but the fact that she supported and reinforced the shitty school system made me dislike her and see her as a fake
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Re: Reading books is easier than I thought [Re: Eggtimer]
#22108480 - 08/18/15 08:34 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Reading books is easier than I thought [Re: WScott]
#22108482 - 08/18/15 08:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Gottaloveacid said: I have read a few easier novels but when they start using strange vocabulary and small print I cannot read it. I was NEVER able to comprehend shakespear when reading it, I had to watch it for it to make sense.
I had to read King Lear twice and watch the movie before I felt I was getting a grasp of it and I like to think I am a decent reader. The Shakespeare I read in high school I got very little out of it as I did not work over it at all.
A Midsummer Night's Dream might be an easier go; more light-hearted, playful.
Yeah I hear ya guys. When I actually become interested in a novel, I tend to read it 2-3 times to fully grasp it and each time I read it I am always finding key details I missed that make the entire story make much more sense.
As for shakespear though... I was always in the "normal" english classes (which were actually full of idiots) and even they could understand it better than I could. I will never forget how I was NEVER able to answer a single question on shakes after reading an act. I can easily understand the sentences and what they were saying in them but when it came to recalling it all to form a complete story, I was 100% unable to do it. I wouldn't say it was hard for me, rather impossible
I still try to pick up a book now and then to read it, and when I understand the story they are always awesome but that rarely happens.
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Re: Reading books is easier than I thought [Re: Eggtimer]
#22108486 - 08/18/15 08:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Marijuana and the Internet have wrecked my attention span for reading to the point where I have a hard time focusing on a book for very long. The last fiction book I read a significant chunk of was "Makers," kind of a near-future sci-fi about 3d printing. Otherwise most of my reading relates to school (computer science.)
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Re: Reading books is easier than I thought [Re: WScott]
#22108490 - 08/18/15 08:36 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Gottaloveacid said: I have read a few easier novels but when they start using strange vocabulary and small print I cannot read it. I was NEVER able to comprehend shakespear when reading it, I had to watch it for it to make sense.
I had to read King Lear twice and watch the movie before I felt I was getting a grasp of it and I like to think I am a decent reader. The Shakespeare I read in high school I got very little out of it as I did not work over it at all.
A Midsummer Night's Dream might be an easier go; more light-hearted, playful.
I'd recommend midsummer nights dream too.
In school I was pretty much the ONLY person who understood it for some reason. I would read the characters in my head with ridiculous accents with pauses at the end of verses to understand better. For some reason it helped me more. Honestly in my head they were super dramatic.
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Re: Reading books is easier than I thought [Re: pachoo]
#22108530 - 08/18/15 08:45 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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My favorite Shakespeare play from high school was "Richard III."
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Re: Reading books is easier than I thought [Re: Janky Tits]
#22108576 - 08/18/15 08:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Reading seems to overall increase my intelligence. I think clearer, I articulate words better, it increases my vocabulary, and it helps me view the world from different points of view. I haven't read in a long time and I really do feel stupid. Or I guess it could be the copious amounts of drugs I consume. Ehhh it's a toss up. Seriously though I do overall feel better while I read book after book for months.
I saw someone earlier mention they read the gunslinger. I just wanted to say the Dark Tower series is one of the more intriguing fantasy novels I have read. Stephen Kings diarrhea of the mouth really paid of while he was writing those books, he made it easy to picture the world he created. I wish I could forget everything about those books and read them again.
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Re: Reading books is easier than I thought [Re: superbob57]
#22108653 - 08/18/15 09:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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superbob57 said: The Secret of the Shadow: Debbie Ford  
You'd be amazed these ideas are ancient. I'm starting to trip slightly now. I thought I took less damnnnn
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All of us tend to work with expectations in mind: we work hard in our jobs to get respect and appreciation from our colleagues and promotions from the boss. We clean our yards and make them lovely with the hope that our neighbors will be appreciative if not downright envious. We work hard in school to get good grades, anticipating that this will bring us a fine future. We cook a splendid meal with the expectation that it will be received with plaudits and praise. We dress nicely in anticipation of someone’s appreciation. So much of our lives is run simply in expectation of future results that we do it automatically, unconsciously.
This, however, is a perilous pattern. From a spiritual viewpoint, all these expectations and anticipations are Trojan horses that will bring us misery either sooner or later. Misery is inevitable because our expectations and desires are unending and unappeasable. We will live from disappointment to disappointment because our motivation is to gratify and enlarge the ego; instead of breaking the bonds of karma, we are forging fresh chains.
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Anaximander (611-547 BCE) of Miletus who may have been a student of Thales, felt that the origin of all things was infinite and could not be defined. On the other hand the apparent world of things was certainly composed of opposites that wereconstantly coming into existence and going out of existence according to a sort of moralorder. This would account for the world of experience as alternating of ‘opposites’: hot-cold, life-death, growth-decay, and in a more modern context matter-energy, or particles-waves.
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Ultimate Reality is transcendental. It is not perceived by the senses or comprehended by the mind. It is a matter of indubitable experience for the inmost consciousness of man. It is directly and immediately experienced without the instrumentality of the senses and the mind, and does not depend for Its proof upon any external authority. The perception of the external world is neither direct nor immediate, but is dependent upon the senses and the mind and is always coloured by them. On the other hand, the experience of Reality is both immediate and direct, and becomes possible only when the senses and the mind, through the practice of rigid spiritual discipline, have been made absolutely calm. It is the consciousness in man that experiences the Universal Consciousness, the two being, in reality, identical.
But there are infinite possibilities of self-deception.
To protect the aspirant from error and delusion the seers of Vedanta lay down three Criteria a of Truth. These are scriptural authority (Sruti), reasoning (yukti), and personal experience (anubhava). Any one of these, singly, may enable a man to realize partial truth, but when all three point to the same conclusion, the aspirant may be assured that he has realized the whole of Truth. The meaning of the scriptures, which contain the recorded experiences of knowers of Truth of the past, must be explained by a competent teacher. In order to free reasoning from the pitfalls of rationalization, rigorous mental disciplines are prescribed so that the aspirant may be grounded in detachment not only from the external world but also from his own pet ideas and exclusive loyalties. The aspirant must be able to view his own thinking objectively and submit it to a searching analysis. Ultimate values must be judged by the standard of eternity and not of time. Lastly, the conclusions of the scriptures, reaffirmed by reasoning, must be experienced by the aspirant himself. Ultimate Truth, the basis of the universe, is self-evident, non-contradictory, and free from fear and friction. The seer perceives Truth everywhere and in everything, and thus becomes completely free from fear, sorrow, and expectation, which characterize the life of falsehood in the relative world.
A spirit of synthesis generally pervades the philosophy of Vedanta. The search is always directed to the discovery of the First Principle, through which the multiplicity of the universe can be known and explained. The Hindu seer insists that the aspirant after knowledge should first, through self-control and meditation, realize Ultimate Reality; only then can he know the nature of the world. As Ramakrishna said, "To know the many, without knowledge of the One, is ignorance, whereas to know the One is knowledge." But it must not be overlooked that some noted Indian philosophers, such as Kapila and Patanjali, have shown remarkable acumen in their analysis of the mind and the material world.
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Re: Reading books is easier than I thought [Re: Eggtimer]
#22108667 - 08/18/15 09:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Eggtimer said: For the longest time I avoided books because I thought they'd take forever to read.
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Re: Reading books is easier than I thought [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
#22108726 - 08/18/15 09:23 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I read on avrgae 1-2 books a week. I love my Kindle because finally I don;t have stacks of paperbacks to donate or sell back for pennies.
Recently on another site people were discussing a top 100 science fiction list; the most avid science fiction fans claimed "have read" counts in the 30s, with a couple in the forties. My count for that particular list was something like 79 but I didn't claim it for fear people would think I was bullshitting.
After 30 years of reading at least one book a week (most years though I had some gaps with much lower averages), I have managed to catch a great number of books and many many "classics" from many a fiction genre, as well as a large and broad swath of non-fiction works. Love to read.
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Re: Reading books is easier than I thought [Re: Void_Hawk]
#22108922 - 08/18/15 10:03 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's hilarious how many people on here (and just in general) have pretty much only read the general highschool bullshit they were forced to. Even then a lot of them (the younger ones anyway) just said fuck it and cliffnotes'd it. Surprised we haven't had some fucktard come in here yet claiming that books are boring...
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Re: Reading books is easier than I thought [Re: akira_akuma]
#22108937 - 08/18/15 10:06 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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No to both. infinite jest sounds like a more USA capitalist themed 1984. Dystopia is usually a fun rabbit hole to jump into but sometimes I freak myself out haha
House of leaves sounds more interesting and mysterious to me.
Infinite Jest is nothing like 1984 at all, really, it's not. nothing like it at all. no big brother; just subsidized time, that's it. oh and the Convexity.
and House of Leaves is really interesting so far, and it's getting more trippy.
Infinite Jest is 10x the book House of Leaves is David Foster Wallace was on a whole different tier of authorial skill. That book is a fucking slog though, at certain points continuing is more fighting a war with yourself than actually wanting to continue. That said, it's easily the best book mentioned in this thread by a pretty significant margin.
-------------------- "I have no way of knowing whether you, who eventually will read this record, like stories or not. If you do not, no doubt you have turned these pages without attention. I confess that I love them. Indeed, it often seems to me that of all the good things in the world, the only ones humanity can claim for itself are stories and music; the rest, mercy, beauty, sleep, clean water and hot food (as the Ascian would have said) are all the work of the Increate. Thus, stories are small things indeed in the scheme of the universe, but it is hard not to love best what is our own—hard for me, at least."
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Re: Reading books is easier than I thought [Re: Cj-B]
#22109102 - 08/18/15 10:50 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I just counted and I have 96 books about Psychedelics, the universe, and ancient civilizations. But I've only read 11 front to back so I should start reading a lot more.
My next choice will either be, The sacred mushroom and the cross, or Food of the Gods
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Re: Reading books is easier than I thought [Re: Cj-B]
#22109107 - 08/18/15 10:52 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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House of Leaves seems lighter than IJ by a long shot, but it's not bad so far. Zampano's parts are great, Truant's parts are great. it's different.
Infinite Jest is...the anti-confluential tome of entertainment as the antithesis of literature.
and i have a laugh and had fun with every single paragraph, line, word placement. it took me a LONG time to finish it, (months and months).
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Re: Reading books is easier than I thought [Re: FruitOfLife]
#22109139 - 08/18/15 11:03 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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FruitOfLife said: I just counted and I have 96 books about Psychedelics, the universe, and ancient civilizations. But I've only read 11 front to back so I should start reading a lot more.
My next choice will either be, The sacred mushroom and the cross, or Food of the Gods
I'm tripping right now and I'm pretty sure most people have been throughout history I mean come on look at this shit So detailed they understand the flowing dualities of natural evolution.
The archaic revival haha.

 Let's make it happen again. Here and now

Hahaha I just saw this
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Re: Reading books is easier than I thought [Re: Eggtimer]
#22109224 - 08/18/15 11:39 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Personally fond of reading religious texts and analysis of the impact of various spiritual traditions through history. It is interesting to consider how pursuit of developing the mind and spirit has touched different groups through the ages.
But any time anyone brings up reading my mind goes back to this:
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Re: Reading books is easier than I thought [Re: Tantrika]
#22109277 - 08/18/15 11:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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SweetLeafSamadhi said: Personally fond of reading religious texts and analysis of the impact of various spiritual traditions through history. It is interesting to consider how pursuit of developing the mind and spirit has touched different groups through the ages.
But any time anyone brings up reading my mind goes back to this:

Thanks for that video it was extra hilarious while stoned out of my mind 
I see a lot of people have become aware of this. A lot of the music I listened to for years was talking about these ideas and I didn't even know it. How funny. It's like we're a species with amnesia as some have said.
We are the infinite void in physical matter
The core principle of freedom Is the only notion to obey The formulae of evolution and sin Leading the way
The rebirth is near completion As we slowly awaken from slumber
The malpractice of the spirit ends Gateways! When the gift is once again attained Gateways! No rules or restraints are longer valid Gateways! When the ancient future is reclaimed Gateways!
No rules or restraints are longer valid Gateways When the ancient future is reclaimed Gateways
It is all there for the eyes that can see The blind ones will always suffer in secrecy For it is the omen of what lies submerged - Breeding Untouched within us - Bleeding
The core principle of freedom Is the only notion to obey The formulae of evolution and sin Leading the way
The rebirth is near completion As we slowly awaken from slumber To receive the light that shines in darkness The light that shines forevermore (forevermore)
Be the broken or the breaker Be the giver or the undertaker Unlock and open the doors Be the healer or the faker The keys are in your hands Realize you are your own sole creator Of your own master plan
Be the broken or the breaker Be the giver or the undertaker Unlock and open the doors Be the healer or the faker The keys are in your hands Realize you are your own sole creator Of your own master plan
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