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Re: Reading books is easier than I thought [Re: Patlal]
#22108095 - 08/18/15 06:50 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Reading books is easier than I thought [Re: akira_akuma]
#22108115 - 08/18/15 06:57 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Patlal said: As of January 1st I have read 16 books. Cover to cover.
Easily could have been 25 due to my "fuck it, I'll do something else" mood.
I'm trying to get to 1 book a week. It's a hard target but achievable.
The more I read the more I realize how much of an idiot I am. Some books teach me shit about fields of science I didn't even know existed. Some of them being vast and very advanced. Here I was, almost 30, not knowing it even existed. How shameful is that? I'm telling you, I'm a fucking idiot. Not because people think I am, but because I have made myself aware of all the shit I didn't know. That's a crucial step. How the fuck do you learn about something if you don't even know it's out there?
That's part of the reason why I constantly question everybody's opinions. I'm at the point where I know that I know more about a lot of shit than most people and I got a larger pool of knowledge to see if they actually are as smart as they think, thus deducing whether their opinion is worth listening too. Nothing better than a question of mid to high level of obscurity to determine whether the guy has a clue about anything. You know, the kind of question that isn't obvious to the masses but is popular enough for most mid level intelligent people can either know or deduce the right answer. That's when you know you aren't talking to an idiot.
Read up people. Reading is cheap. Reading is everywhere. Reading is the most important thing ever. 99% of TV stations wont give you the knowledge and if you don't know what to google, than the Internet wont give it to you either.
Water keeps you hydrated, air keeps you oxygenated and reading keeps you alive.
Haha DMT showed me this before reading but it is true. I had no idea how many ideas are out there and how few I had looked at. I was seeing the world from only 1 point of view and thought it just looked like shit. I see now I was the cause of all my problems and answer to all my questions
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akira_akuma said: anybody here read House of Leaves?
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akira_akuma said: read Infinite Jest. test your limits.
ha, i fucking dare you sir!
No to both. infinite jest sounds like a more USA capitalist themed 1984. Dystopia is usually a fun rabbit hole to jump into but sometimes I freak myself out haha
House of leaves sounds more interesting and mysterious to me.
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memes said: not only do books entertain you through entrapping stories... but they also expand your vocabulary impose cadence broaden your brainpower and deepen your empathy~
This is very true. I use to say "what the fuck is wrong with that person" when some one was the slightest bit rude to me but now I care about them. Crazy the difference perspective makes.
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Re: Reading books is easier than I thought [Re: akira_akuma]
#22108129 - 08/18/15 07:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sadly, mostly fiction... it pisses me off but I'm in a story mood lately. You'll see the patern.
Angels and demon - Dan Brown Hand of the devil - Dean Vincent Carter The murder of Roger Ackroyd - Agatha CHistie Th Seven Dials Mystery,- Agatha Christie The Big Four - Agatha Christie Mystery of the Blue train - Agatha Chistie The ABC Murders - Agatha Christie The murder at the Vicarage - Agatha Christie The Sittaford mystery - Agatha Christie Peril on end house - Agatha Christie The Black Echo - Michal Connolly The Gunslinger - Stephen King The Golem - Edward Lee Laughing Man -T.w. Wright Outliers - Malcolm Gladwell The Tipping Point- Malcolm Gladwell. The name of the wind - Patrick Rothfuss The Wise Man's Fear - Patrick Rothfuss
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Re: Reading books is easier than I thought [Re: Patlal]
#22108134 - 08/18/15 07:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Reeding teh bookz is many phun. Wunce yoo lern, it rilly is eezee. I aktully red all teh bookz wunce.
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Re: Reading books is easier than I thought [Re: jahrastafareye]
#22108138 - 08/18/15 07:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Good for you fella!!!!! I'd recommend DMT the spirit molecule. It's quite the read!
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Re: Reading books is easier than I thought [Re: SARAtonin]
#22108140 - 08/18/15 07:06 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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SARAtonin said: I've always loved it, I was home schooled so I never had too many friends growing up and spent a lot of time reading. Now that I don't have a job I find myself spending most of my days reading hours at a time. Just cuddle up next to my wife and we both read and every now and then take a break to smoke a bowl and discuss what we'd been reading. Beats the hell out of TV if you ask me.
I'm much older than most of you and when I was growing up we didn't have 100 channels. I had two or none. I read books. That was my entertainment. There were no Kardashians. That was pretty much the case until well after college. Cable started right after but it wasn't what it is now. Some of it is good but most of it is garbage. I watch nature shows. How It's Made. Some history stuff. I like stand up comedy, too. That's pretty much it.
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Re: Reading books is easier than I thought [Re: Janky Tits]
#22108146 - 08/18/15 07:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Reading books is easier than I thought [Re: Janky Tits]
#22108154 - 08/18/15 07:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Xplicit RelapzZ said: Good for you fella!!!!! I'd recommend DMT the spirit molecule. It's quite the read!
This one is even better.
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Re: Reading books is easier than I thought [Re: jahrastafareye]
#22108155 - 08/18/15 07:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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No to both. infinite jest sounds like a more USA capitalist themed 1984. Dystopia is usually a fun rabbit hole to jump into but sometimes I freak myself out haha
House of leaves sounds more interesting and mysterious to me.
Infinite Jest is nothing like 1984 at all, really, it's not. nothing like it at all. no big brother; just subsidized time, that's it. oh and the Convexity.
and House of Leaves is really interesting so far, and it's getting more trippy.
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Re: Reading books is easier than I thought [Re: Eggtimer]
#22108161 - 08/18/15 07:10 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Xplicit RelapzZ said: Good for you fella!!!!! I'd recommend DMT the spirit molecule. It's quite the read!
This one is even better.

That's some new age pseudo science bullshit.
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Re: Reading books is easier than I thought [Re: akira_akuma]
#22108173 - 08/18/15 07:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Eye nevur posted dat, u mussed hav me confewsed wit sumwon else.
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Re: Reading books is easier than I thought [Re: Patlal]
#22108174 - 08/18/15 07:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Xplicit RelapzZ said: Good for you fella!!!!! I'd recommend DMT the spirit molecule. It's quite the read!
This one is even better.

That's some new age pseudo science bullshit.
You have just insulted my religion!!!! BIGOT!!!!!
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Re: Reading books is easier than I thought [Re: Patlal]
#22108182 - 08/18/15 07:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Patlal said: Sadly, mostly fiction... it pisses me off but I'm in a story mood lately. You'll see the patern.
Angels and demon - Dan Brown Hand of the devil - Dean Vincent Carter The murder of Roger Ackroyd - Agatha CHistie Th Seven Dials Mystery,- Agatha Christie The Big Four - Agatha Christie Mystery of the Blue train - Agatha Chistie The ABC Murders - Agatha Christie The murder at the Vicarage - Agatha Christie The Sittaford mystery - Agatha Christie Peril on end house - Agatha Christie The Black Echo - Michal Connolly The Gunslinger - Stephen King The Golem - Edward Lee Laughing Man -T.w. Wright Outliers - Malcolm Gladwell The Tipping Point- Malcolm Gladwell. The name of the wind - Patrick Rothfuss The Wise Man's Fear - Patrick Rothfuss
I have bookmarked Black Box by Michael Connelly. sounds like a hoot.
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Re: Reading books is easier than I thought [Re: Janky Tits]
#22108201 - 08/18/15 07:22 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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“Books are for people who wish they were somewhere else.” -Mark Twain
I never watch TV. I have so many ebooks but it's just not the same as a physical book. I generally wander around listening to talk radio, audio books, lectures or podcasts. Music for lifting weights only. Oh, someone mentioned philosophy. I found a killer 23 gig psychology and philosophy torrent. Books, videos, and tons of lectures from various university professors. A goldmine for a college student or anyone who can't get enough of that kinda stuff. The lectures are the best.
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Re: Reading books is easier than I thought [Re: Patlal]
#22108209 - 08/18/15 07:23 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Xplicit RelapzZ said: Good for you fella!!!!! I'd recommend DMT the spirit molecule. It's quite the read!
This one is even better.

That's some new age pseudo science bullshit.
OK Mr. mature adult  That's a easy way to dismiss ideas I bet you haven't even read it. Maybe you're actually being driven by your emotions and not reason so when you dismiss things so quickly you miss out. I use to do this because I was forced to be brought up as a christian so any time I heard the word spiritual or divinity I automatically assumed it to be what had been forced down my throat so I said bullshit. I was afraid I was going to be lied to again. When approaching this stuff from a skeptical point of view you can learn some very interesting things. It's actually not all the same. If you know it's bullshit then it can't hurt to read it huh?
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1447742/
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Although several articles in the October 2002 issue on Complementary and Alternative Medicine reflect the interest in spirituality that exists in the field, they appear unable to discuss it directly. One of the reasons for this may be that scientific medicine has its roots in a rift from spirituality. Before Western medical practice and research began to involve what was considered to be an unnatural curiosity about the human body, medicine was intricately involved with a person’s spirit or soul. It was during the 16th century in Europe that men began to commit the heresy of stealing dead bodies from graves and actually looking at bones, muscles, and organs. “Laws against dissecting human corpses began to relax during the Renaissance; as a result, the first truly scientific studies of the human body began.”1
The dissecting of bodies has become such a basic feature of medical school education, it may be difficult to imagine the historical sacrilege of this act initially. The Church condemned these “body snatchers,” contributing to Western medicine’s alienation from the spirit. Larry Dossey writes,
From the sixteenth century on, mind has been progressively expunged from the phenomenal world. . . . Scientific consciousness is alienated consciousness: there is no ecstatic merger with nature, but rather total separation from it. Subject and object are always seen in opposition to each other. . . . The logical end point of this world view is a feeling of total reification: everything is an object, alien, not-me; and I am ultimately an object too, an alienated “thing” in a world of other, equally meaningless things. 2
As an American Indian, I am aware of an entirely different tradition of healing that never split from spirit world. There is no difference, for example, between Navajo religion and Navajo medicine. American Indian medicine consists of spoken prayers, songs that are prayers, rituals, and instruments of prayer. Even herbal medicine comes with prayers for a person’s spirit. It is interesting to me that modern providers have recently “discovered” holistic medicine. It is something like the way Columbus “discovered” America. Suddenly our spiritual practices exist, though they have been practical for centuries. We also experience alienation as a byproduct of would-be spiritual genocide, what Eduardo Duran calls the “soul wound”: “The notion of ‘soul wound’ is one which is at the core of much of the suffering which Indigenous peoples have undergone for centuries.”3(p127)
When modern public health and medical practitioners are able to talk about the spirit and understand what they themselves have lost, I think their wound will begin to heal. Perhaps then they can help the rest of us.
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Re: Reading books is easier than I thought [Re: Eggtimer]
#22108264 - 08/18/15 07:39 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Oh books. 
I actually haven't read novels in quite a moment. The last series was discovery of witches and I watch alot of tv series or movies. The books that I mainly read are usually handy man books or learning skills or sciences. Lots of herbal and gardening books lately. Farming and that sort of thing.
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Re: Reading books is easier than I thought [Re: Janky Tits]
#22108277 - 08/18/15 07:42 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Xplicit RelapzZ said: I'd recommend DMT the spirit molecule. It's quite the read!
We own that book! I started it but haven't finished but my fiance has and that's the book he mostly pushes me to finish. Good recommendation.
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Re: Reading books is easier than I thought [Re: Patlal]
#22108398 - 08/18/15 08:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sounds like a lucky fiance.
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How is ol' Hercule doing?
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Re: Reading books is easier than I thought [Re: Eggtimer]
#22108411 - 08/18/15 08:18 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have always struggled with reading books. Back in high school, I always failed reading assignments and shakespear because I cannot follow books.
I didn't read any novels until I was about 13-14 which might be the culprit.
I find that when I read a book that I am just reading the words but not forming them in my mind into the story unless it is an easier book. That is why I always just watched movies instead of novels.
It's weird because I read a LOT, my job is programming and I do a LOT of studying in my free time. Never struggled with anything else like it before, but it has always been a crux.
I have read a few easier novels but when they start using strange vocabulary and small print I cannot read it. I was NEVER able to comprehend shakespear when reading it, I had to watch it for it to make sense.
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Re: Reading books is easier than I thought [Re: Gottaloveacid]
#22108434 - 08/18/15 08:24 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Gottaloveacid said: I have always struggled with reading books. Back in high school, I always failed reading assignments and shakespear because I cannot follow books.
I didn't read any novels until I was about 13-14 which might be the culprit.
I find that when I read a book that I am just reading the words but not forming them in my mind into the story unless it is an easier book. That is why I always just watched movies instead of novels.
It's weird because I read a LOT, my job is programming and I do a LOT of studying in my free time. Never struggled with anything else like it before, but it has always been a crux.
I have read a few easier novels but when they start using strange vocabulary and small print I cannot read it. I was NEVER able to comprehend shakespear when reading it, I had to watch it for it to make sense.
Just keep pushing. I had to push through Nietzsche because I think I bought a couple bad translations. I would read a sentence and it would go into the ether haha I found by the 2nd to 3rd book I was starting to pick up on more.
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