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Re: Subway Jared pleading guilty to child porn charges [Re: Amanita86]
    #22121747 - 08/21/15 10:45 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Lotta real twisted people out there..



You should put me back on ignore


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Re: Subway Jared pleading guilty to child porn charges [Re: koods]
    #22121748 - 08/21/15 10:45 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Im jus going by what i was taught in school and eveyone abided by idk maybe it was wrong :shrug:


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Re: Subway Jared pleading guilty to child porn charges [Re: koods] * 1
    #22121750 - 08/21/15 10:46 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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apparently I'm also a pedo because I pointed out that having sex with 16 year olds is legal in a lot of states. I've never had sex with someone under 19 in my life. The definition of pedo is getting broader.




Another large group of people to blindly hate and have it be perfectly acceptable, great, just what we need. What the fuck is wrong with people


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Re: Subway Jared pleading guilty to child porn charges [Re: koods]
    #22121755 - 08/21/15 10:47 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Fucking hell there is a bag of hammers posting in this thread.  The age difference does not matter if both participants are above the age of consent.  A 70 year old can fuck a 16 year old in a lot of states and Canada.  The age difference only applies if one party is under the age of consent.  Thickness.


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Re: Subway Jared pleading guilty to child porn charges [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #22121758 - 08/21/15 10:47 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Lotta real twisted people out there..



You should put me back on ignore



Better believe everytime you click that camera button I think the same thing..


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Re: Subway Jared pleading guilty to child porn charges [Re: Amanita86]
    #22121763 - 08/21/15 10:48 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:burn:


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Re: Subway Jared pleading guilty to child porn charges [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22121766 - 08/21/15 10:49 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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  A 70 year old can fuck a 16 year old in a lot of states and Canada




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Re: Subway Jared pleading guilty to child porn charges [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #22121769 - 08/21/15 10:51 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Im jus going by what i was taught in school and eveyone abided by idk maybe it was wrong :shrug:



I wouldn't be surprised if schools were being incredibly sex negative. People have gotten nuts about this stuff in the last 20 years. This shit was barely an issue when I was in high school. I think the age of consent used to be 14 back then in a lot of places.

Kids were allowed to step outside their houses by themselves back then too. Kids today are coddled retards who can't do anything without being supervised.


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Re: Subway Jared pleading guilty to child porn charges [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #22121770 - 08/21/15 10:51 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I have a friend IRL who is in favor of the death penalty. We've been friends for a long time but we have a lot of political disagreements and we often have debates or arguments about it. Whenever he is arguing in favor of the death penalty, he uses pedos as a group of people who unquestionably deserve to be killed, and often expresses extremely violent fantasies regarding the methods of execution. This is just really creepy to me, I'm sorry. It's unbelievable how many people feel this need to have a group of people to hate with such extreme passion. Child sex is wrong no doubt, but why can't we just be bigger than that and be rational and even-handed in our dealing with the perpetrators? Isn't that what makes us better people? Aren't we doing this to protect the children? Or do we just need somebody to hate?


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Re: Subway Jared pleading guilty to child porn charges [Re: Amanita86] * 1
    #22121775 - 08/21/15 10:52 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Amanita86 said:
Lotta real twisted people out there..



You should put me back on ignore



Better believe everytime you click that camera button I think the same thing..




Good, I'll be sure to post plenty of selfies today. Maybe you'll work up the courage to really do it.


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Re: Subway Jared pleading guilty to child porn charges [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #22121778 - 08/21/15 10:53 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Because they're fucking children..


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Re: Subway Jared pleading guilty to child porn charges [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #22121780 - 08/21/15 10:53 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

meh... they are ruining lives. and while i dont favor the death penalty, I do believe in exile.


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Re: Subway Jared pleading guilty to child porn charges [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #22121781 - 08/21/15 10:53 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Amanita86 said:
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Amanita86 said:
Lotta real twisted people out there..



You should put me back on ignore



Better believe everytime you click that camera button I think the same thing..




Good, I'll be sure to post plenty of selfies today. Maybe you'll work up the courage to really do it.



Yeah, that'll teach me won't it..


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Re: Subway Jared pleading guilty to child porn charges [Re: koods]
    #22121786 - 08/21/15 10:54 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I don't want to go too far out in defending this guy, it's more of a push back against this trend of criminalizing teenage sexuality. (...) It's really gotten out of hand.



I agree with this bit. It's good to watch over the fate of children and to understand that deep into their teenage years (an arguably beyond that) they cannot be expected to understand the full consequences of their actions, nor be capable of resisting the pressure put onto them by older and more experienced people. However, teenagers (at least a great many of them) do have sex lives, sexual fantasies and desires, and to some extent they should be able to pursue them without getting themselves or others in trouble. Because this is such a grey area, it's hard to draw a clear line, but it seems that the line drawing has gotten out of hand. A grey area is not an invitation for the ethically spastic to enforce draconian measures.

The above is a general remark and not intended as a response to the case of this Jared guy. I don't know the details on that case. However, I do notice that koods is getting a lot of flack for pointing out a real societal issue. The guy has a point, whether you like it or not.


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Re: Subway Jared pleading guilty to child porn charges [Re: ManianFH]
    #22121788 - 08/21/15 10:55 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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meh... they are ruining lives. and while i dont favor the death penalty, I do believe in exile.




I'd actually consider castration to be a reasonable punishment. I'm not "soft on pedos" or whatever, it's a terrible crime, but I'm looking at the people who have so much hate in their hearts that they obsess over the pedophiles, themselves, as objects of hatred. It's fucking depraved. It makes me almost as sick as the pedos themselves.


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Re: Subway Jared pleading guilty to child porn charges [Re: Amanita86]
    #22121800 - 08/21/15 10:57 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Doesn't have to be the death penalty. Chop off their cock. They'll never rape anyone again.

Hell of a deterrent as well.


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Re: Subway Jared pleading guilty to child porn charges [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #22121820 - 08/21/15 11:00 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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meh... they are ruining lives. and while i dont favor the death penalty, I do believe in exile.




I'd actually consider castration to be a reasonable punishment. I'm not "soft on pedos" or whatever, it's a terrible crime, but I'm looking at the people who have so much hate in their hearts that they obsess over the pedophiles, themselves, as objects of hatred. It's fucking depraved. It makes me almost as sick as the pedos themselves.




I hear you sophist.. There is an obsession over the depravity of what pedophiles are about. Really, I understand why they do what they do - they are attracted to children, for whatever reason I dont know, but they are. Its like someone who is attracted to his car to the point of sexualized behaviors. I dont know why he is, but he is.

My problem with it is that they ruin or taint the lives of their victims should they choose to act on those feelings. At that point, they are destuctive to the progress of society, and need to be exiled to a place where their harm on the greater public is minimized. I dont want torture or anything life that. Just fly them to a remote place in Antarctica and tell them they are free to go. Same goes for rapists, murderers, terrorists, and the like.


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Re: Subway Jared pleading guilty to child porn charges [Re: Amanita86]
    #22121821 - 08/21/15 11:00 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I found this interview with Alan ball very enlightening. Jump to 25:40 for the relevant part

http://pd.npr.org/anon.npr-mp3/npr/fa/2008/09/20080910_fa_01.mp3?dl=1


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Re: Subway Jared pleading guilty to child porn charges [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #22121825 - 08/21/15 11:01 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I mean but you might consider the pedophile in the same light as you consider the people who have hate for pedophiles in which case if you look at the big picture it becomes even harder to decide what to do


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Re: Subway Jared pleading guilty to child porn charges [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #22121844 - 08/21/15 11:09 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Sux that the world isn't black and white, eh?


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