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crispy86
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anyone heard of "delta 12?"
#22107462 - 08/18/15 04:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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supposedly a THC extract that is experientially equivalent to a 10-15 minute LSD trip, visually...
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Re: anyone heard of "delta 12?" [Re: crispy86]
#22107478 - 08/18/15 04:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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So it's extracted from cannabis?
This doesn't sound legit to me.
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impatientguy said: So it's extracted from cannabis?
This doesn't sound legit to me.
.......yeahhhh....
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Re: anyone heard of "delta 12?" [Re: crispy86]
#22107513 - 08/18/15 04:40 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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crispy86 said: supposedly a THC extract that is experientially equivalent to a 10-15 minute LSD trip, visually...
Whatttt. It sounds like you're talking about a RC or DMT. Why would high dose thc only last 15 minutes?
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Re: anyone heard of "delta 12?" [Re: SoulButter]
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Re: anyone heard of "delta 12?" [Re: LSDreamer]
#22107552 - 08/18/15 04:52 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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it does sound RCish, but the person extracting is a very knowledgable grower, and from what i heard, it sounded like it was derived from the plant or involves THC...some kind of tincture
could be an RC...i don't know.
thought i'd ask you all first before i see my brother in person, who knows the guy talking about and making this shit
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Re: anyone heard of "delta 12?" [Re: crispy86] 2
#22107565 - 08/18/15 04:55 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Oh... yeah i think i heard about this actually. Saw a news thing about it, labs exploding, people tripping out of their minds on this stuff. The name of it, if my memory serves correct is... dab? So sad to see the youth getting hooked on hard street drugs like dab.
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Re: anyone heard of "delta 12?" [Re: crispy86]
#22107573 - 08/18/15 04:57 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well if you smoke the plant, or eat the plant, you get high but you don't trip so that makes me think that it has nothing to do with cannabis. Sounds like dmt or maybe one of the weird designer drugs. If he insists that is is connected to cannabis it may be so it seems "natural"
I could be wrong. I did zero research before posting this, but I've done dozens of cannabis extractions.
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Re: anyone heard of "delta 12?" [Re: crispy86]
#22107597 - 08/18/15 05:02 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Delta,9,thc. The main active ingridient in marijuana that give you a high, along with hindreds others. Now i know when i smoke a strong strain, mire sativa than indica, i for, within the first half hour, mainly with hash but still appens with weed. Get a strong visual sheen/shine over everything, along with brighter and more vivid colors and lights. Along with physical sensationd reminicent of lsd.
Does it suprise me that someone figured out a solvent that dissolves only a certain chemical in a plant, leaving you only that chemical.
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Re: anyone heard of "delta 12?" [Re: whitelights]
#22107602 - 08/18/15 05:03 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Shiiiitttt take a big meaty dab with zero tolerance and tell me you don't trip...
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impatientguy said: Well if you smoke the plant, or eat the plant, you get high but you don't trip so that makes me think that it has nothing to do with cannabis. Sounds like dmt or maybe one of the weird designer drugs. If he insists that is is connected to cannabis it may be so it seems "natural"
I could be wrong. I did zero research before posting this, but I've done dozens of cannabis extractions.
i trip when i smoke herb. took a puff last night...literally one hit out of a cig batty, and i had to lay down on my bed with full on visuals: fractals, flower of life, wormholes, rainbow specturms, eyeballs. major perspective changes and time dilation. it closely resembled a 2 hour long 250ug LSD trip. it was very overwhelming. i'm waaaaaay more sensitive to weed than i was years ago.
makes me wonder if i can even handle LSD trips anymore, and i've eaten acid well over 100 times with no problem 90% of the time
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Re: anyone heard of "delta 12?" [Re: whitelights]
#22107618 - 08/18/15 05:06 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Weed can get very trippy, sometimes even so much it's a trip. It wouldn't be too far fetched.
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Re: anyone heard of "delta 12?" [Re: whitelights]
#22107626 - 08/18/15 05:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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whitelights said: Delta,9,thc. The main active ingridient in marijuana that give you a high, along with hindreds others. Now i know when i smoke a strong strain, mire sativa than indica, i for, within the first half hour, mainly with hash but still appens with weed. Get a strong visual sheen/shine over everything, along with brighter and more vivid colors and lights. Along with physical sensationd reminicent of lsd.
Does it suprise me that someone figured out a solvent that dissolves only a certain chemical in a plant, leaving you only that chemical.
relieving to hear i'm not the only one
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Re: anyone heard of "delta 12?" [Re: crispy86]
#22107629 - 08/18/15 05:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah but it isn't a 10 to 15 min lsd Like trip. it is the normal 1.5 hour to 2 hour weed high trip. So I think what we were originally talking about is not a derivative of cannabis. I never said you won't get visuals but IMO i won't actually trip off weed ever
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We would be full blow lsd tripping for the first 15 mins everytime we smoked weed if there was a chemical like that in weed.
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It might be in such low amounts. Usually when I don't smoke for a while, weed becomes super trippy for the first 30 minutes and then dies down.
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Re: anyone heard of "delta 12?" [Re: Achillita]
#22107680 - 08/18/15 05:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well I think we would've heard of it by now. For sure. nobody said "yep I know of delta twelve" not trying to be a hater but I don't buy it.
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MrBlueYoMind said: Shiiiitttt take a big meaty dab with zero tolerance and tell me you don't trip...
The first time I ever dabbed was right after I got done with drug testing. I hadnt smoked weed in 8-10 months, and i was given a fat dab for my first time smoking again. I didnt trip I just felt zombified and slugggggish and uncomfortably high lol. I actually didnt like dabbing for a while after that. love it now though!
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Re: anyone heard of "delta 12?" [Re: SoulButter]
#22107766 - 08/18/15 05:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've heard of it; I think it is a very potent metabolite produced when weed is cooked and eaten.
EDIT: was thinking of 11-oh--d-9 http://www.marijuana.com/community/threads/11-oh-d-9-thc-more-powerful-than-d-9-thc.151289/
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But whos to say every of the HUNDREDS of chems in weed last as long as delta9thc. Ive had straight delta 8,9 and 11. Delta 9 being the most eminicent of weed. 8 being eh amd 11 a little better than 8.
So whos to say 12 does not exist, and does not have any psychoactive effects. Whos to say theres chemsin weed that last 215 minutes but kick in an hour @fter ingestion.
I beleive it amd i know someone out there has studied it. To me it only makes sense, cause if t was delta 9 causing that sensation it o
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Re: anyone heard of "delta 12?" [Re: whitelights]
#22107774 - 08/18/15 05:44 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: anyone heard of "delta 12?" [Re: SoulButter]
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MrBlueYoMind said: Shiiiitttt take a big meaty dab with zero tolerance and tell me you don't trip...
The first time I ever dabbed was right after I got done with drug testing. I hadnt smoked weed in 8-10 months, and i was given a fat dab for my first time smoking again. I didnt trip I just felt zombified and slugggggish and uncomfortably high lol. I actually didnt like dabbing for a while after that. love it now though!
If I smoke more than a couple hits of good flower after having a totally clean system, then I trip. I can see every blade of grass and hear every insect. Hues become more vibrant and contrasts more defined. Some people report seeing hexagonal patterning after smoking massive dabs. I've got a buddy who sees stars and fractals when dabbing big.
A simple google search for "visuals from weed" will verify that many people experience these kinds of symptoms.
I remember when I was in high school I smoked some northern lights with a couple buddies. I was having absolutely absurd thought loops that would echo and cause bouts of hilarity.
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Nothing will e ve r beat northern lights. Everr
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Lol sounds like a bunch of crap to me and I never said all the chems in weed last as long as thc. Your talking out of your ass.
Mmhhmm I'm sure you have 
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whitelights said: Ive had straight delta 8,9 and 11. Delta 9 being the most eminicent of weed. 8 being eh amd 11 a little better than 8.
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Re: anyone heard of "delta 12?" [Re: crispy86]
#22107901 - 08/18/15 06:06 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I get strong visuals off a bowl or two of some full melt. That shit lasts for about an hour or so.
I remember my girl taking two dabs back to back last year and she reported that she was melting into the bed. It seems she had a strong psychedelic experience off the dabs.
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Re: anyone heard of "delta 12?" [Re: Sham87]
#22107939 - 08/18/15 06:14 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm not saying that weed isn't psychedelic I'm saying there is no Chem in it that makes you have a lsd like trip for 15 mins. Dabs are very psychedelic.
If there was some drug like that in weed we know about it. Weed has been and is being studied VERY extensively. People would know.
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impatientguy said: I'm not saying that weed isn't psychedelic I'm saying there is no Chem in it that makes you have a lsd like trip for 15 mins. Dabs are very psychedelic.
If there was some drug like that in weed we know about it. Weed has been and is being studied VERY extensively. People would know.
Well actually if you eat a lot you can start getting closed eye visuals but they last quite a while.
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Re: anyone heard of "delta 12?" [Re: Eggtimer]
#22108171 - 08/18/15 07:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah, I agree. That's just being super stoned IMO. I get that too. I think most people get that though.
Also I never said that you can't get CEV in fact I actually said you could get visuals from cannabis earlier in this thread.
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Just about the only actual hallucination I've ever had, open eye, was in HS after smoking white rhino... I saw a plane fly overhead and crash into the twin towers. I think the airplane was real at least...
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Re: anyone heard of "delta 12?" [Re: flickedbic]
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Even just bud makes me trip out way harder than acid, but I'm super sensitive to it. A whole bowl is enough to make me have ego death. I would never do a dab, that would be terrifyingly intense.
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Re: anyone heard of "delta 12?" [Re: healing]
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healing said: Even just bud makes me trip out way harder than acid, but I'm super sensitive to it. A whole bowl is enough to make me have ego death. I would never do a dab, that would be terrifyingly intense.
i used to puff herb 10x/day for about 10 years. now, when i take one tiny puff, it's experientially the equivalent of taking 250ug of LSD. panic, full on visuals with fractals, flower of life, eyeballs, wormholes, rainbows all overlaying my entire field of vision. very lysergic.
took a puff last night and it put me in my place. the plant told me to put my days of eating LSD on hold for a WHILE
i puffed on the 4th of july and had a panic attack, and collapsed to the ground. felt like i was dreaming while i was awake. depersonalization and derealization. granted, i hadn't smoked in 6 months, and this was very potent weed
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crispy86 said: Took a puff last night and it put me in my place. The plant told me to put my days of eating LSD on hold for a WHILE
Maybe the plant was telling you to stop smoking weed.
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crispy86 said: Took a puff last night and it put me in my place. The plant told me to put my days of eating LSD on hold for a WHILE
Maybe the plant was telling you to stop smoking weed.
When plants start saying things to you, it's probably time to lay off both the weed and the LSD for awhile.
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Re: anyone heard of "delta 12?" [Re: SoulButter]
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SoulButter said: Oh... yeah i think i heard about this actually. Saw a news thing about it, labs exploding, people tripping out of their minds on this stuff. The name of it, if my memory serves correct is... dab? So sad to see the youth getting hooked on hard street drugs like dab.

"Dab" is just THC extracted from the plant with butane or propane, all it is is really pure hash oil in a solid form. the solvent, the BHO or PHO, evaporates clean leaving you with mostly THC
I've never heard of delta-12.
Δ9 (delta 9) stands for the position of a double C=C bond in the THC molecule.
the C=C bond can be at the position 6a,7,8,9,10 and 10a. So you have 6 isomers of THC. Only Δ8THC, Δ9THC and Δ10a THC are psychoactive drugs.
Which means delta-12 doesn't exist, the C=C bond can ONLY be at the position 6a,7,8,9,10 and 10a.
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I think this person is going to give you some salvinorin-A.
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Since delta-12-THC can not exist (as explained in my initial post), and he said it's a plant extract that makes you trip for 15 minutes, I would be willing to bet it's salvinorin-A.
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i stand corre ted, im glad someone in here knows what they are talking about.
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Re: anyone heard of "delta 12?" [Re: whitelights]
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delta 12 is probably the name on the bag that he bought at that shady headshop. whatever is in it.
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Re: anyone heard of "delta 12?" [Re: whitelights]
#22109732 - 08/19/15 05:04 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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whitelights said: i stand corre ted, im glad someone in here knows what they are talking about.
Yeah, I'm a bit of a chemistry nerd.
As for this mystery product Who knows what it could be...
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Re: anyone heard of "delta 12?" [Re: whitelights]
#22110623 - 08/19/15 10:35 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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whitelights said: delta 12 is probably the name on the bag that he bought at that shady headshop. whatever is in it.
seems probable.
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Re: anyone heard of "delta 12?" [Re: LSDreamer]
#22110908 - 08/19/15 11:22 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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crispy86 said: Took a puff last night and it put me in my place. The plant told me to put my days of eating LSD on hold for a WHILE
Maybe the plant was telling you to stop smoking weed.
When plants start saying things to you, it's probably time to lay off both the weed and the LSD for awhile.
the plant wasn't literally talking to me. it was just an overall feeling of not being able to handle the high or the psychedelic properties that come with weed or LSD. either way, i'm going to pay attention to how my mind and body react to these substances, and take a step back for a while until i feel that i am ready to experiment with weed or LSD again
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Re: anyone heard of "delta 12?" [Re: crispy86]
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I get messages from psychedelic plants all the time, but like he explained, it's not in language, they insert emotions, feelings or thoughts into your conscious stream that you feel you never would have been able to think had you not been on the plant, thus the plants are communicating information to me...
Neurotransmitters are messenger compounds, all tryptamine psychedelics share relation to the neurotransmitter 5-hydroxy-tryptamine (serotonin) the endogenous psychedelic dimethyltryptamine is in this class as well and the hormone meletonin (n-acetyl-5-MEO-tryptamine) as well as pinoline (6-MEO-tetrahydro-beta-carboline) and all phenethylamine psychedelics share relation to dopeamine (3,4-dihydroxy-phenethylamine) as well as epinephrine and norepinephrine...
These are exogenous neurotransmitters, these are not tertiary compounds, these plants and fungi expend extreme amounts of energy producing these neurotransmitter-like compounds, in fact all tryptamine and phenethylamine psychedelics are variations of endogenous human neurotransmitters....why does a plant want to spend it's time producing these things? It's as if the plants are saying if you have an advanced brain functioning with neurotransmitters, the we the plants or fungi have a gift for you, a new neurotransmitter that cones from outside the body and gives you special mental abilities, and in turn we the plants and fungi want symbiosis...and they get it, stropharia cubensis went from living in dung to living in sterile nutrient rich jars with mammals providing it with prime conditions until its life cycle is near end, then you the human get access to exogenous neurotransmitters...
These plants are full of neurotransmitters, which are messenger molecules, science knows this, so why then does it seem absurd when people say "the psychedelic plant, fungi, or synthetic gave me a message"....of course it did! It's a messenger molecule...
-E. Borodin
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