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Re: “Independent” GMO Researcher Forced to Release Emails Showing $25K Grant from Monsanto [Re: musiclover420]
#22118365 - 08/20/15 08:06 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah, if more people grew their own food it would be a good thing. I totally agree on that.
Weed prices are still pretty high most everywhere. 25 an eight is a great price, 1000 a lb for outdoors is too, sounds like a black market price. I doubt you will find it that cheap in a shop.
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Re: “Independent” GMO Researcher Forced to Release Emails Showing $25K Grant from Monsanto [Re: Stonehenge]
#22118383 - 08/20/15 08:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Since we mentioned Oregon, check this out

Portland already banned them.
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akira_akuma
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Re: “Independent” GMO Researcher Forced to Release Emails Showing $25K Grant from Monsanto [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#22118398 - 08/20/15 08:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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lol, science...RUUN!!!!
but what if: "what i hear is that cat has the cure to cancer!" "WHAT?! LETS KILL IT!"
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Kush_Zombie
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Re: “Independent” GMO Researcher Forced to Release Emails Showing $25K Grant from Monsanto [Re: akira_akuma]
#22118404 - 08/20/15 08:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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yep
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Re: “Independent” GMO Researcher Forced to Release Emails Showing $25K Grant from Monsanto [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#22118417 - 08/20/15 08:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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exactly. killing ideas out of fear before their merit can be established.
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Prisoner#1
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Re: “Independent” GMO Researcher Forced to Release Emails Showing $25K Grant from Monsanto [Re: Kush_Zombie] 1
#22118458 - 08/20/15 08:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Kush_Zombie said: Like I said, you refuse to look into it. You took no time to research the chart I'm sure to figure out whether it was true or not. Water is unregulated and you're right, I'm glad we can both agree that water should be labeled as well of the contaminates and fluoride. You finally got something right. You can say my argument is retarded but the fact of the matter is, I did not come here to argue. You're the one seeking an argument sir. And even in this, you haven't given me one fact (not even a little chart) as to why GMOs are safe but yet we're supposed to take time to bring you information? But if we don't supply your blabbering ass with information then you'll go on about how "They won't show information because you just buy into the crowd." and then when we bring facts to you, you'll reply 2 minutes later acting as if you just debunked anything we said. Please continue to eat this crap. We could use less people like you.
maybe if you actually went back about 6 years on my posts on this subject you will see I held the same opinions as yourself until I actually did start doing the research, not the reading on shit that aligned with my opinions but the actual research. I own a farm, I was seeking organic certification until I saw the bullshit for what it really is and at the behest of a microbiologist here I decided to do a lot more in depth reading on the topic of GMOs
now to turn shit back on you, if you dont want to eat GMOs, why not eat the shit that's already labeled as GMO free. they label their shit voluntarily
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Re: “Independent” GMO Researcher Forced to Release Emails Showing $25K Grant from Monsanto [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22118462 - 08/20/15 08:28 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Kush_Zombie said: Like I said, you refuse to look into it. You took no time to research the chart I'm sure to figure out whether it was true or not. Water is unregulated and you're right, I'm glad we can both agree that water should be labeled as well of the contaminates and fluoride. You finally got something right. You can say my argument is retarded but the fact of the matter is, I did not come here to argue. You're the one seeking an argument sir. And even in this, you haven't given me one fact (not even a little chart) as to why GMOs are safe but yet we're supposed to take time to bring you information? But if we don't supply your blabbering ass with information then you'll go on about how "They won't show information because you just buy into the crowd." and then when we bring facts to you, you'll reply 2 minutes later acting as if you just debunked anything we said. Please continue to eat this crap. We could use less people like you.
maybe if you actually went back about 6 years on my posts on this subject you will see I held the same opinions as yourself until I actually did start doing the research, not the reading on shit that aligned with my opinions but the actual research. I own a farm, I was seeking organic certification until I saw the bullshit for what it really is and at the behest of a microbiologist here I decided to do a lot more in depth reading on the topic of GMOs
now to turn shit back on you, if you dont want to eat GMOs, why not eat the shit that's already labeled as GMO free. they label their shit voluntarily
I do.
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Re: “Independent” GMO Researcher Forced to Release Emails Showing $25K Grant from Monsanto [Re: akira_akuma]
#22118507 - 08/20/15 08:37 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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It sucks having something you are trying to avoid being unlabeled and in almost everything though.
Also Oregon has a bad history with chemicals. I am glad they banned that crap, we could use much less chems.
We still have pesticides showing up in elementary school water fountains from the lumber industry  Quote:
akira_akuma said: exactly. killing ideas out of fear before their merit can be established.
You mean like all the dead bees in Oregon and elsewhere? Last time I bought a non organic plant it ended up surrounded in dead bees within a week....
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Re: “Independent” GMO Researcher Forced to Release Emails Showing $25K Grant from Monsanto [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#22118649 - 08/20/15 09:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Kush_Zombie said:
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Kush_Zombie said: Like I said, you refuse to look into it. You took no time to research the chart I'm sure to figure out whether it was true or not. Water is unregulated and you're right, I'm glad we can both agree that water should be labeled as well of the contaminates and fluoride. You finally got something right. You can say my argument is retarded but the fact of the matter is, I did not come here to argue. You're the one seeking an argument sir. And even in this, you haven't given me one fact (not even a little chart) as to why GMOs are safe but yet we're supposed to take time to bring you information? But if we don't supply your blabbering ass with information then you'll go on about how "They won't show information because you just buy into the crowd." and then when we bring facts to you, you'll reply 2 minutes later acting as if you just debunked anything we said. Please continue to eat this crap. We could use less people like you.
maybe if you actually went back about 6 years on my posts on this subject you will see I held the same opinions as yourself until I actually did start doing the research, not the reading on shit that aligned with my opinions but the actual research. I own a farm, I was seeking organic certification until I saw the bullshit for what it really is and at the behest of a microbiologist here I decided to do a lot more in depth reading on the topic of GMOs
now to turn shit back on you, if you dont want to eat GMOs, why not eat the shit that's already labeled as GMO free. they label their shit voluntarily
I do.
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Re: “Independent” GMO Researcher Forced to Release Emails Showing $25K Grant from Monsanto [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22118700 - 08/20/15 09:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Good job. You posted a picture of a non-gmo verified KELLOGS brand
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Re: “Independent” GMO Researcher Forced to Release Emails Showing $25K Grant from Monsanto [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22118706 - 08/20/15 09:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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So? They probably just started using more filler What is that supposed to prove?
In fact, according to this link: Non GMO grapenuts
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recipe was modified slightly and no longer includes vitamin A, D, Riboflavin, and B12
All that changed is they stopped adding as much nutrition to cut costs
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Re: “Independent” GMO Researcher Forced to Release Emails Showing $25K Grant from Monsanto [Re: musiclover420]
#22118821 - 08/20/15 09:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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So? They probably just started using more filler What is that supposed to prove?
what is that statement supposed to prove? or even mean?
probably? i think what Pris is pointing out here is that GMO produced more nutritional value than non-GMO.
so did it, or didn't it?
PS according to the article, someone states from the producer, the recipe was changed "in order to achieve a non-GMO verification..."
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Re: “Independent” GMO Researcher Forced to Release Emails Showing $25K Grant from Monsanto [Re: musiclover420]
#22118845 - 08/20/15 09:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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musiclover420 said: So? They probably just started using more filler What is that supposed to prove?
In fact, according to this link: Non GMO grapenuts
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recipe was modified slightly and no longer includes vitamin A, D, Riboflavin, and B12
All that changed is they stopped adding as much nutrition to cut costs 
and charge more for one of the cheapest products on the market
it also tastes like dog food so who in the fuck actually buys grape nuts
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Re: “Independent” GMO Researcher Forced to Release Emails Showing $25K Grant from Monsanto [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22118872 - 08/20/15 09:39 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I assure you, this is Monsanto propaganda at it's finest. And you bought into it. Ironically, Monsanto owns that cereal brand. mind blowing, I know.
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Re: “Independent” GMO Researcher Forced to Release Emails Showing $25K Grant from Monsanto [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#22118906 - 08/20/15 09:41 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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But you guys keep eating it just trying to help out my fellow man. Can't make ya if you don't wanna tho
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Re: “Independent” GMO Researcher Forced to Release Emails Showing $25K Grant from Monsanto [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#22118959 - 08/20/15 09:45 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Kush_Zombie said: I assure you, this is Monsanto propaganda at it's finest. And you bought into it. Ironically, Monsanto owns that cereal brand. mind blowing, I know.
and they made it into a non-GMO brand. what's your point, you ain't exactly blowing my mind, ya know.
how is that propaganda? they arranged to lower the nutrition of their brand of cereal and then claimed what exactly? are you saying they claimed to make the cereal less nutritious or that the standards that they were required to meet made them make those changes in order to be sold? one could be considered propaganda, which is it?
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Re: “Independent” GMO Researcher Forced to Release Emails Showing $25K Grant from Monsanto [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#22118966 - 08/20/15 09:45 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Kush_Zombie said: I assure you, this is Monsanto propaganda at it's finest. And you bought into it. Ironically, Monsanto owns that cereal brand. mind blowing, I know.
yes, it's always monsanto propagand, monsanto shills, monsanto something...
as of yet, none of the questions I had asked were ever answered, why am I not surprised that none of the anti GMO crowd can do anything but claim a monsanto conspiracy
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Re: “Independent” GMO Researcher Forced to Release Emails Showing $25K Grant from Monsanto [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22118988 - 08/20/15 09:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Monsanto = bad guys
anyone not Monsanto = potential good guys
anyone truthing the Monsanto conspiracy out to the world = good guys
no explanations towards anything needed ever.
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Re: “Independent” GMO Researcher Forced to Release Emails Showing $25K Grant from Monsanto [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22119170 - 08/20/15 10:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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It is a pretty well known fact many major corporations make use of propaganda. Our government does, business's do, it is everywhere in varying amounts and forms.
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and charge more for one of the cheapest products on the market
I made this very point a few posts back...
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The only reason Organic food is more expensive is becouse the market for it is smaller so business's "go green" as a gimmick to charge more.
That is just an example of organic as a gimick. Buy some organic produce from a local farmer, that is what it is really about.
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yes, it's always monsanto propagand, monsanto shills, monsanto something...
Many hard facts widely known now where once labelled conspiracies by people like you just saying.
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Re: “Independent” GMO Researcher Forced to Release Emails Showing $25K Grant from Monsanto [Re: musiclover420]
#22119187 - 08/20/15 10:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Good talk guys
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